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Can we please stop slugging last survivors for moris?
Played a game with a skull merchant now, who had me slugged whilst the bot was roaming, farmed bp of the bot, then hooked the bot and carried me to the hatch, only to slam it shut in front of me. Which out of the 10 games I played today happened in 4 of them so it's whatever. (Killers do this a lot. Some even like to wait until right before I will bleed out to mori me, to give me the longest possible wait until my next game.) She then had me wriggle off, power the exit gate, to then hit me. She then gestured for me to crawl out of the exit. Only to mori me before the escape. That game, someone AFK'd within the first few seconds seeing who the killer was, and the other two seemed like new survivors. Yes I could've let everyone else die and waited for hatch, but in most cases killers slug the bot / wriggle them off, until they find the last survivor. So in that case just die and go next right? But I can't because the killers waste the longest time ever, standing over watching someone bleed out until the last second to mori. As survivors, can we please have a bleed out mechanic when we are the last survivor on the ground, so we can just die and move to our next game? You can even make it only activate at 75% bleeding.
The amount of games where the killer is just wasting time near end game and delaying me going to my next match, makes the game so unfun. In the same respect I know survivors teabagging or w/e near the escape is not fun, but there's an endgame collapse, and also you can hit them.
I never teabag, I never do troll things. I'm a soloQ survivor, who's been playing since launch, and I play the game completely normally and receive this kind of behavior in 60% of my games.
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The problem is the mechanic itself. I believe that it should be changed so that you could mori the last survivor on the ground if every other survivor is hooked and on stage 2 so that they all get a chance to do a comeback. Until then, I am afraid we are all in our right to do whatever we deem if we wish to see the mori.
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Someone dropping the last survivor next to hatch and then mori-ing them will do that regardless of how you change the mechanic. Making the mori available earlier like you mentioned wouldn't cause them to do it any earlier either, that's why they're waiting for hatch in the first place instead of unhooking, to close it in the survivors face.
But I do agree that you should be able to mori the final survivor if everyone else are on hook and stage 2, because at that point there's zero chance for a comeback if the last standing survivor also gets downed. Then everyone on hook could immediately be sacrificed during the mori. That would speed up the final moments of the game significantly when you've ended the game by slugging multiple survivors.
As for how to fix slugging for the 4k I have some ideas, mostly by adding incentives for killers to take the 3k as a win. Like once they've got a 3k, the killer can leave the trial get some bonus for it. But players like this SM would just ignore that mechanic and slug for the 4k anyway.
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A mentality change is difficult. And adepts would need to be adressed. I agree with considering 3k as a win, the 4th should only be, in otzdarva's words, "a cherry on the top".
The whole hatch issue is just RNG, can't do much there. If the killer wins the race, they get to choose what to do with their price (closing immediatly, wait or let the survivor go). If the survivor finds it first they as well get to choose (leave, wait for the killer). That has to do with attitudes and mind sets. Making the mori available sooner would certainly allow games to end sooner, but still it wouldbe the player's choice. If you crawl, hide and make yourself difficult to find for the killer, expect the game to last longer. If the killer wants to wait, well, longer game as well. But BHVR don't have any control over the minds of the players.
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Remove bots and finisher mori I feel would fix this, as then they would have no choice and only screwing themselves over, cause yes this happens alot and me as a casual streamers.
Killers seem to be bias towards survivors streamers especially too of they are killer streamer just to try make their pathetic tik tock or ytd I made this x survivor streamer angry video..
Even if they do not want to finisher mori at least change it that they can only do it if the person is on hook 2 which techically it would be green mori base instead of yellow.
It stupid that green and pink which is higher tier need the 2 hook rule but yellow dont even though its only for last person. Really stupid being mori at 0 hooks just like tombstone piece.
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Activate the anonymous feature so that nobody sees your name, that way the won't know you are a streamer. Solved. Also the yellow would have not mattered since if you are caught being the last you are dead, no matter how many times you were hooked.
The bots are intended to solve the leaving survivors harming the rest of the team, although they tend to work in an unintended way in that regard. And the finishing mori is a good idea considering the many times you are told to kill a survivor with your own hands in challenges.
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I should not have to use annon mode to meet potential good people who i can try recruit and build my community for swf by some sad killer who is immature to cheat via stream sniping to win.
I play killer at times and do not go in other streamers stream to gain an advantage. It always non stream killers who do it anyways, as I never have been snipe by streamer killers.
Also even though I play on pc and ps5, you ever consider those on xbox like my friend who do not have access to annon mode so even if I have annon mode , they probably can be stream sniped which ofc aint his fault either and you cant tell me to tell my friend to get a pc or ps4/5.
People should be allow to build their community and dbd is the only game that stream snipe, not even tcm I had issue which also again instead of annon mode killers should not be able to see the survivors lobby or profile information.
Removal of bots is suggested because since killers wanna slug so much for their stale mori even though i willingly alert them to a hook to get me out the game they still slug, so ill just eat the penalty so that last person has a chance to get hatch and also a 3 v 1 is not impossible to win. It is harder yes but can be done if you have at least a 3 man swf.
Few days ago we had a lara kamikaze on hook one when she got instant down via ghosty but we still won 3s because he was actually a bad killer, easy to loop and mind game.
Being moried at 0 hooks when you know you did amazing in a chase feels insulting more than if you did bad and got 2 hook then moried which at that point I can only be mad at myself for the 2 hook part. This is why i hate rancor, tombstone and yellow mori cause those ignore the 2 hook rule and it feels insulting dying on 0 hook via those 3 things specially if the killer was not all that good at catching you. Finally bleeding someone out at 99% then moring to be a big d when you could have done it 3mins earlier.
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Once again I tell you, no matter how good you did, if you are the last survivor and get caught, you are dead no matter what. The finisher mori lets you save a lil time (the time a killer takes to get you to the hook) if everyone did it as soon as someone was downed.
And if you desire to keep a name with "ttv" in it, do it at your own discretion. Dbd isn't the only game in which people stream snipe. To your friend I suggest changing his name if it gives him this many issues. If you want to reach people, use endgame chat in PC (in ps5 it's more difficult) once the game has ended, that way you deny every chance of stream sniping deliberately. You also need to be riminded that not everyone is you and not everyone would want to be you.
Also leaving hurts your team and the killer as well. Bots are there to help mitigate the effect of someone leaving, so that a team has an actual chance.
I highly advise you take in consideration all alternatives before suggesting something radical, because this post almost sounds like an individualistic rant centered on yourself and your case instead of showing an open mind to any solutions.
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You seem to not even have carefully read what I said. The mori do not save no time as some killers like chucky has a long mori that you could have just long hook the person.
If you cant find hooks that is a serious issue with how there like 50+ of them that usually is right next to each other like dead saloon.
You telling me not to have ttv is my name is moot, I did say am an affliate meaning that am making something out of it as a carrer along with my other full time job.
Well yeah stream sniping can happen in other games but you seem to miss where I say regarding myself it only happens to me on DBD as no other game even tcm I never get stream sniped.
Your suggestion on my friend makes 0 sense cause he too is a streamer so I wont even reply on that. Finisher mori does alot of harm as I had games where a person get caught close to the gate and me and other teamates was able to take hits and they would wiggle off but killer drops them last second, forces us out and moris the last person. So if that aint a prime reason why its a problem idk what else to tell you. Il
Bots does more harm than good too since slugging started with them being added as usually if I was slug as third and killer wanna be greedy for the fourth, I would just eat the penalty to give last person a try hatch and now you cant cause of bots.
Also look at your fellow sm players who complain about 4 bots and would rather the game end immediately if all 4 survivor left match. Do you as a killer like 4 bots? I do not as custom lobbies exists for that.
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Yeah, you are just ranting. Any well-intended advise will not make it to you so, if you don't like what you see here, consider leaving. Games are for fun and you don't seem to be having fun, so don't feel compelled to play.
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Nah your just trying to beat around the bush and failing badly we are done here.
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