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12 matches in a row and the last two survivors have always been bots on 2v8

FearlessHunter
FearlessHunter Member Posts: 546
edited February 2025 in General Discussions

Anyone else getting the same thing?

I kinda find it hard to believe that there's not enough survivors to fill in a full match when I was always getting full games in the previous 2v8s.

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  • JPLongstreet
    JPLongstreet Member Posts: 7,141
  • solidhex
    solidhex Member Posts: 950
    edited February 2025

    I think they just check the current amount of players joining servers and then they add the bots. I've always had either 1 or 2 bots. I don't think there is a hard rule for this. Especially on the first day everyone wants to try the new killers, i mean survivor hasn't changed, it's the same as before basically.

  • crogers271
    crogers271 Member Posts: 3,472

    I kinda find it hard to believe that there's not enough survivors to fill in a full match when I was always getting full games in the previous 2v8s.

    The way they are displaying it implies the wrong problem.

    There are plenty of survivors to group up 8 of them. That's not an issue. The problem is there isn't enough 8 groups of survivors per 2 killers who want to play the game. So now they are taking the survivor pool and spreading it out over more killers. In trying to accommodate the desires of people to play killer, that requires them to put in 2 bots.

  • danielmaster87
    danielmaster87 Member Posts: 10,719

    I don't think a single person was predicting this or not predicting this exactly, that the bots would always die last. But I don't think anyone was happy about the bots' inclusion either.

  • Nazzzak
    Nazzzak Member Posts: 7,705

    I didn't read the OP the same way. I read it as the last two spots in lobby are always getting filled with bots, so i responded as such.

  • humanbeing1704
    humanbeing1704 Member Posts: 9,091

    I thought it was just a safety system if it didn’t find another 2 players but it literally is 2 bots every game

  • MaddieMage
    MaddieMage Member Posts: 691

    it’s cuz 6 people load in and they start the countdown timer. This leaves one minute for 2 more people to join in and wen they don’t it’s insta 2 bot. They don’t give enough time to find more survs

  • Rokku_Rorru
    Rokku_Rorru Member Posts: 3,380

    Thats not it at all LMAO I've had people leave on killer side and it doesnt fill anyone in at all, meanwhile survivor side anyone less than 6 is instant, I've been playing all day and it will only fill past 6 on the initial load

  • Dec4y
    Dec4y Member Posts: 43

    I personally don't mind playing with two bots. If the tag weren’t there, I probably wouldn’t even notice they were bots.

    However, I would be surprised to see them actively working on gens while my other teammates sneak around the edge of the map. Bots complete gens more efficiently than 90% of players, hold the chase longer, and don’t seem too afraid of the killer.

    For me, this has been a buff. Not sure how it would be with more than two bots, but this is definitely better than playing with 6-7 random teammates.

  • Mr_K
    Mr_K Member Posts: 10,511

    Last 2 survivors are bots

    Bots suck

    🤔

  • Green_Sliche
    Green_Sliche Member Posts: 867

    Considering the average survivor player in 2v8 performance - nope, bots are doing fine.

    People probably complain that bots are too overprotective in 2v8 in cases where they could commit to gen repairing process instead. I don't see any other reason why going 2v6+2 bots would be met with such negativity. Also, better incentive to play as survivor, but that is not related to bot performance.

  • Unequalmitten86
    Unequalmitten86 Member Posts: 544

    Yes. I had one full lobby and then when loaded in and the killer was legion and nemesis 4 DC'd.

    Now on another board I rescued a bot and there was another bot ready to heal they went right for the ferns. They are using all the ferns and not healing if someone else is healing too. They just bounce up and down.

    This is the most unfun it has been.

  • AbsolutGrndZer0
    AbsolutGrndZer0 Member Posts: 1,985
    edited February 2025

    Playing with Cheesyraviolis open lobbies today, we had 5 players, and every time but once we got 2 bots. The one time we didn't, it was when they found a 3 stack to join us, but other than that…. 2 bots every time.

    We instantly entered the lobby and it started the countdown, the countdown ended and boom… match started with just 6 players and 2 bots.

    So yea, I respect that Mandy told us what the programmers told her, but it's just not true. It's every lobby.

  • FearlessHunter
    FearlessHunter Member Posts: 546

    Thanks for sharing your experiences guys! Glad to know it wasn't just me haha

    I wouldn't mind so much if it wasn't every game and if the bots didn't glitch out more than they do in 1v4. We had one bot block the doorway in RPD because he was trying to heal my friend even tho the killer was right behind us. I think you can all guess what happened next lmao

    I've noticed they have tunnel vision if they're near an injured survivor and will do anything possible to heal that survivor (even if it means screwing you over lmao)

  • arthurrz
    arthurrz Member Posts: 28

    Bots do nothing but hide in the match. They don't go to hooks and don't do gens, I don't know why BHVR keeps them on the match.

    It is the worst 2v8 because of them and it should be the best cause it's RE themed.

  • Nazzzak
    Nazzzak Member Posts: 7,705

    They definitely have a programmed list of priorities.

    I had one start healing me but then the last gen popped, so it immediately stopped healing (making a loud noise notification) and ran to open the exit gate next to us. I had a medkit so I walked off to the side a distance away to heal myself, but the noise notification had drawn a killer. The bot left the gate when the killer came close, then made a beeline to me. I was literally against the outer wall behind an obstacle, and being on death hook and injured I went down and died as a result.

    I'm assuming it was to prioritise my healing, then the gate got prioritised over that, then after it abandoned the gate because of a terror radius, it prioritised healing me again and inadvertently led the killer to me.

  • HeroLives
    HeroLives Member Posts: 3,234

    definitely due to priority it runs a script, a workflow if you will. I had a jane bot sandbag me, but it’s nothing that doesn’t happen in a normal game with normal randoms when I soloQ. So I’m not too pressed about it. I understand the more you “condition” with statements then the more likely you are to run into those issues. I imagine coding bots is no easy task. Especially if you’re trying to please everyone. I feel for the developers honestly so much heat.

  • ratcoffee
    ratcoffee Member Posts: 2,150

    Yeah, when BHVR revealed they would only be using bots for "extreme" queue time issues and there were a bunch of people smugly going around saying "see, you crybabies will make a big deal over everything, they're not gonna be in every game," my immediate thought was "uh, do you not remember what the queue times were like for the last 2v8 mode?"

    The fact of the matter is, there is absolutely no appeal in playing survivor in 2v8.