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Ruining 2v8 with mending sim
It was a good run. But ruining this game mode by adding the most obnoxious, boring annoying killer to the mode was not a smart idea. Nobody wants to play mending sim in 2v8.
My enthusiasm for wanting to play this mode is now gone after 2 matches.
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Legion is probably the best addition for killers on 2v8, having to pressure 8 survivors at the same time is near impossible. Hate to burst your bubble but… Welcome to the middle ground
"This game is RUINED because I can't just press E on a gen and win every 10 minutes."
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I hear you. Legion was not the play for2v8. They need to completely overhaul his kit cause its not fun to comstantly mend the whole trial. Not to mention theres really nothing you can do for their power. A good legion would bait out pallet stuns, locker dives, and window vaults, so theres essentially no counterplay against it
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They could have made mending less of a chore, like decreasing the mending times and such (or removing mending altogether), since keeping people injured and having a ton of information on survivors whereabouts is much more useful in 2v8 than 1v4.
And as a compensation, make them faster.
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I reject this premise every time it arises. The only reason you're playing a "mending simulator," or mending the whole match is because you keep healing over and over, which is the worst thing you can possibly do against Legion because that gives him value of his power. You're spending 20-30 seconds healing at minimum, and then he comes by and re-injures AND deep wounds you in 2 seconds. Not smart. He could, of course, keep deep wounding you while you're injured, but then he's just wasting time to get nothing in return. That would be a net positive for you.
I've never heard someone say there's no counterplay to Legion. That being true would make him the strongest killer in the game, more than Nurse/Blight/Spirit, because at least they* have counterplay!
I know it's hard for 6-8 players to know to spread out against Legion, because the regular 4 have a hard time realizing that. But that doesn't mean you're unable to do anything against the killer. Even if he always hits you because your teammates let him chain frenzy all the way to you, you know how to hold forward and waste time, or pallet stun. No Legion is 100% perfect at baiting out pallet drops. And at the end of the day, he's M1.
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I never said anything about healing against legion. I said mending. You have to mend against him unless you wanna bleed out in the ground.
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I love how simply saying no one wants to play mending sim against legion made you decide that meant everyone just wants to sit on gens all match.
You know it is possible to actually like other aspects of this game like the chases, mind games, side missions etc while also not wanting to play against a killer you have to constantly mend against. If you’re a legion main just say that. It’s fine, but plenty of people can’t stand this killer for the reasons I listed. They’re boring, obnoxious and ruins this event imo.
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lol
that pic is me whenever I see a full meg team as a killer
jk last I checked I still stomp only toxic players so I'd be fine unless they were nice
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completely agree. Legion are totally miserable to go against in normal 1v4 mode. I have no interest in playing 2v8 knowing that I’ll probably face legion is a good percentage of matches, and on top of that having 2 bot teammates guaranteed. This whole event is already shaping up to be a total disaster for the survivor side
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Alright fine… I'm a Legion main. I'm sick of hearing the term "mending simulator." Mending MAYBE should've been sped up for 2v8 due to the high speed nature of the game mode. How ever my point was Legion should be a welcome addition due to the fact not many other killers that can pressure a lobby of 8 people quite like him, making 2v8 less of a survivor dominated game mode. It's not like he's getting insta downs or anything crazy so is it really that big of a deal that you have to take a break a few times per game NOT ONLY from gens but also chases, mind games, side missions etc; to mend for 12 seconds? There's better things to be upset about fr.
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Yeah its total trash like this mode always has been.
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Legion is miserable AF to go against no matter what mode it is. Hit and run is the most boring playstyle and it’s what Legion specializes in. You may enjoy playing as Legion, and that’s fine, but also realize that a lot of players including myself find Legion one of the most boring and miserable killers to play against
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You saying that is like saying no nurse is perfect and will sometimes whiff, or a phasing spirit might get audio mixed up and miss her phase. I dont understand what youre getting at. Youre essentially saying that its inevitable, "You know how to hold forward and waste time." The best you can do is waste their time...? Does that sound like counterplay to you? Your response offers no incite, no substance on how to counter frenzy. "No legion is 100 % perfect," but every legion ive gone against anticipated the pallet drop. Not to mention a legion can vault the pallet with no delay, so theres no pallet tech to reverse the killer and make them hit the pallet instead of you. Your argument is invalid.
Not only does his power take time away from gens being done, survivors arent doing gens regardless in 2v8. Also, not to mention that bots dont do ANYTHING as long as they hear the killers terror radius. They dont do gens, heal, or interact with anything other than hide or distance themselves from the killer. So literally no one is doing gens. All my games there are 6 people (im not including the 2 bots), and only 1 or 2 people are on gens. Thats it. Thats why i mentioned legion. One of the most boring, repetitive killers there are, and someone decided to add him to 2v8.
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I'm sorry to hear that.
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They actually did speed up the mending time… SIGNIFICANTLY, it's like 6 or 8 seconds tops
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Oh cool so I shouldn't be listening to all this nonsense? I assumed they didn't because there's no way people would complain about mending for 6 seconds… right?
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IDK what survivors want at this point because:
- Anti-loop killers are boring
- Macro gameplay killers are boring
- Hit and run killers are boring.
Here's a question, what killers ARE fun to go against then? Because based on complaints as far as i can see, there is pretty much no killer that is "fun"
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The only killers I don’t like playing against any killer except Legion (boring AF), Pinhead (unfair against solo q) and Skull Merchant (obviously).
I can’t speak for everyone else, but that still leaves a vast majority of the killer roster that I have no complaints about.1 -
I love playing against every killer except legion, skull merchant and doctor. All the rest are fun, engaging and tech me how to play against them and learn to counter them.
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Have you actually tried 2v8 as survivor AGAINST Legion?
Because from the few games I've played today, it seemed indeed that he is uncounterable. I have only played like 4-5 games but I've faced him every single game… and I died every single game. I would normally consider exaggerated to call Legion a "mending simulator" in 1v4. But in 2v8 it's actually what happens. Legion basically never tries to chase you, only injures you with his power, then runs away, then comes back when you're healed, then repeat.
So either you spend the whole game trying to heal, or you decide to stay injured. BUT and this is really the major problem in 2v8 is that the typical counterplay of "not healing against Legion" does not work anymore, because there's now a 2nd killer. Normally, Legion is weak against injured survivors. But the 2nd killer isn't. Typically it will be a fast/stealthy killer like Blight, Wesker or Wraith.
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Where did you find this info? I played against a legion earlier and mending was not 6 to 8 seconds
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Well, it is exactly what I'm seeing. People healing against Legion, all match long, even when he's paired with a killer who can instadown. Double the value given to the killers, for free.
While my initial hypothesis was wrong, that he wouldn't go for injured survivors (he will, just to keep his chain going), almost every rush I've done has failed to make an 8-chain. Either the survivors run out the meter by the second hit, or they stun. And they stun and they stun and they stun, because they're good at the game AND because they can recreate pallets infinitely. That's something nobody factored in. And the mend, while it is slowdown, it's only a couple seconds, and then you're back to doing gens or looping as normal. The reason that kind of slowdown seems so radical in this mode is because no other killers have any, except for Wesker and Nemesis with their cures. They're resigned to kicking gens which could be done 30 seconds after they walk away, and which retain the 8-kick limit from the main mode.
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But then he is never a threat of downing you, and you're up against 1 killer as usual, except for the mend slowdown. Otherwise, he gives up his frenzy for a bit to chase as M1 trash. Don't you see how the killer side is compromised as well?
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I've been saying it for months at this point:
They want to be so insanely OP they can guarantee a 100% escape rate no matter how badly they play.
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I do see the other side. I played both sides tonight. Won all the killer games. Lost all the surv games. You on the other hand, probably have played only killer side, as usual…
If you can't win 2v8 as killer right now, then this is a massive skill issue. Consider sharing your gameplay one day, because I genuinely don't understand. Between lack of MMR, ridiculously OP killer synergies, 2 bots by default, and survivors never doing gens because they're all hiding for hatch, the mode is easier it's ever been.
I'm betting the killrate is something like 75%.
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I'm just happy to not see Wraith
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I think miserable is a strong word tbh. When I think of a miserable killer, I think of a killer that doesn’t give me options when interacting against. At least with Legion, you get a normal chase unlike killers like Artist or knight that have boring anti loop powers to go against. The mending is mainly just obnoxious but not terrible imo. This is just for 1v4 btw.
As for 2v8, Legion definitely should’ve been handled better by the devs. Getting easy first hits as Legion complements way too well with other killers that can get fast downs.
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No decisions are ever made with survivor fun as a question. It's not important whether mending is fun. The most important thing is playing as Legion is fun because your injuring everyone with no counterplay.
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Brother I've been playing mostly survivor due to killer queue times and it's a cake walk, Like 6 games back to back the killers got no more than 2 kills, entirely solo queue. It's incredibly forgiving to bad survivors
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