Why would we be trying to push Kill Rates up further?

So far as we know, they are already high enough.

if we'd want to talk about killrates, we'd first have to change mindset of every "casual" player in this game.

If you are willing to talk about killrates, you'd have to play every match with the goal to win.

If you are willing to play every match with a goal to win, you'd have to change your casual mindset and actually start seriously improving at the game instead of looking for casual ways to win while constantly contradicting yourself with "i play for fun, not to win" agenda.

As i said many times, way too many players in this community are trying to have the casual training on how to play the game, are expecting the game to be balanced around casual gameplay just so that they can win as many matches as possible. That's not how it works. If you truly wanna win, you need to start working on yourself, and this applies to every player, especially survivor ones where so many people don't wanna realize they are playing team role when they play soloQ.

Either way, BHVR either need to commit to MMR and make the game competitive or back it off.

ohh but guess what, majority of players don't want to see that because they don't want to have their egos crushed. Implementing better MMR system will make no visual impact on already average players who constantly struggle, it will mostly make impact on players already at very high skill level. That way, average players will still continue complaining because hey, complaining is always a better solution than improving.

GF is one of the killers with the highest skill ceilings in entire game, but is also very map dependant

i disagree about PWYF and Philly. GF is meant to be a stealth ambush killer and that's the most powerful aspect of GF achievable. PWYF significantly shifts gameplay style to chase oriented one (and GF should absolutely avoid truly engaging chases at all costs) and makes you crutch on it aka. never learning to get full potential out of your power. You'd be far better on taking Driver's License addon instead of Philly because it's an awesome slowdown and Philly is already partially basekit.

soloQ is "killer sided" for many reasons that have nothing to do with general game balance, some of those being:

• teammates giving up on hook when they don't like the killer they are facing;
• teammates giving up on hook overall;
• teammates being allergic to gens even when you are taking a chase way far from any generator they could work on;
• general lack of gamesense of teammates;
• teammates playing in very selfish ways;
• teammates playing for challenges rather than truly game objectives.

majority of maps still have a lot of resources, DH is still very good, hatch was and is a generally unhealthy mechanic.

Yes, survs had a lot more going on in the very far past, but people were doomsday posting way less and were much better even when killers had most atrocious metas, like Eruption + CoB or CoB + Overcharge.

Mindset of players is very screwed up nowadays

And if the wait is too long it won't even prevent that.

You can't rely on the kill rate. I could draw 80% of my matches, get a couple wins, and that be an "ideal" 60% kill rate. Nobody likes playing killer to draw or less. They want to win and feel like a threat. So for y'all to say a 60% kill rate, which is mostly draws every match, is "way overperforming" or is a "great performance" is just silly.

I do agree they need to fix MMR. Issue #1, in my book. You can't even begin to balance things if you can't gage what players are good, and what they win or lose against, or what they think is strong or weak. And going back to random matchmaking isn't an option, because then you get random balancing, which we complained about for years. If they would just return MMR to what it was when it first released, that would be leagues better than doing what they're doing now, which is nothing.

That's solo queue. When you play high MMR is killer you start getting a different kind of survivor.

Maps simply aren't as empty as you say. Even on the accursed Coldwind maps, there's loads of them, in addition to the map size. And maybe the killer's chase time has gone down because the average killer has gotten better. They've improved to meet the ridiculous standard that's been set, that 20-30 second chases is still game-losing unless you also get max value from perks, barely break any pallets or kick any gens, AND face inefficient opponents WITH bad map RNG.

Well then the killer players will be miserable and leave. They can't just do nothing. And nobody's looking at practical solutions, if you ask me. That's a big problem.

Like, why not fix the MMR? Players who think Wraith is unbeatable and BBQ is OP should not be in lobbies with killers who can down in 20 seconds max, even with all the ridiculous tiles and survivor handholding stuff. That is a mismatch. And yet, every other match looks like that, because the MMR is nowhere near as strict as it needs to be. I'd rather wait a minute or two for a match, and get consistent same-level teammates/opponents, than whatever the heck this is now, because that's how MMR worked and succeeded when it first came out.

SWF needs a nerf. They've never been nerfed in the history of this game, and you can't really argue that SWF doesn't provide a significant advantage. Even though players don't take advantage of it (just like the survivor-sidedness of the game), that doesn't mean it should freely be used as a vehicle to stomp the killer by experienced players, with no debuff or consequence whatsoever.

Or at least forget the casual perspective and balance the game off of good players, because when those casual players dedicate themselves and go to the next level in skill, they'll reap the benefits of a balanced game, figuring out the usefulness and potential of all these different things which they didn't quite grasp as a casual. That's the ideal learning experience that so many other games provide their players, but this one doesn't because its mentality has always been "Casuals over all else. That's what I call balance."

If you are loading in and the gens are already done there are two scenarios, neither of which have to do with game balance.

1. You are dealing with cheaters/hackers.
2. You need to get off dial-up.

How many times did you play this game?

You're talking about survivors requiring 1000s of hours to be considered good at this game. I know plenty of survivors with that many hours that are still losing their matches. Stop pretending that playing killer is actually a hard role to play. It's so easy. In fact, it's too easy; therefore, a lot of killers have become entitled to their bug fixes and balance changes that they won't let survivors complain about theirs. It's always "well, you just need to get better." Yeah, let me sink another 1000s hours in, I'm not nearly there yet to "GeT GuD…"

By the by, this is from the perspective of someone that plays both killer and survivor. So like, I understand the problems on both sides. My friends stopped playing this game because they were tired of how often they were dying every match. It's sad because I wanted them to really enjoy this game