How many of you agree that this exist and experience it: Killer Anxiety.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cD2I1PDXAJA&t=961s
From 17:38 to 17:58 this guy says something that I've never realized before to be an actual thing: Killer anxiety.
There's so much BS killers have to endure from the survs every match…
For myself I can say that I do get this EVERYTIME, but 90% of these times I still go through and play killer. The other 10% I can't go through mostly because I had a crappy day at work and I know playing killer will make this much worse.
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Turn on Anonymous Mode in online settings. You'll still have the anxiety, but it's reduced tremendously. XBOX platforms are the only ones that don't have this feature.
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I don't play killer anymore because I find the "killer anxiety" to be just too unpleasant. For me, I think what causes a lot of it is how survivors act just over me just casually playing the game. I'm not even going into games with a super competitive playstyle or meta build and I still get lots of tbags, nods and pointing, and people hanging out at the exit gates, almost getting sacrificed to the entity because they just want to get in that last tbag. If it happened on a few occasions, that would be one thing. But it happened frequently enough that I found myself preferring to play in custom matches instead.
It's interesting to me that in game about a killer hunting down a group of people, I've always found survivors to be a lot scarier than the killers. Maybe it's because I just expect the killer to try and get their kills in the fastest, most efficient way possible. Some of the stuff survivors do just comes completely out of left field. And, for me really feels a bit more insulting and personal in tone.
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for me it’s about getting embarrassed that I get somewhat worried about when I play killer. Losing for me is not an issue. I have had many draws and losses that I felt I played well and I was positive about. I have also had some terrible games where I can’t do anything and the survivors rub it in your face. It sucks and while those experiences I can’t forget, I always try to go in just hoping for just a few good plays.
I guess another part of that nervousness is the fact that you are alone. I think many can agree that in 2v8 the losses feel better because you’re with a partner.
I feel like if you asked this maybe 4 or 5 years ago then I think everyone would agree that people would have anxiety as killer as back then survivors were the power role and had way more ridiculous stuff to use against you. The devs have made improvements that the feeling about being nervous has gone down significantly
I did watch the entire video to get the full context. And god was this video tough to get through5 -
Yup - I almost exclusively play anonymously on my P100 ghostie - mostly because I feel I don't have anything to prove if I'm completely anon, and second so I'm not harassed post-match. I do get asked a lot if I'm some streamer, so that's kind of funny.
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When I first started playing, I certainly did feel a degree of "Killer anxiety". But this was mostly down to the bully squads that purposefully hang out at low MMR in order to torture the new Killer players.
These days, however, it's the more relaxing role for me. I just stick on Iron Grasp and Lightborn to be ready for the Flashy saving sabo squads and I'm chilling. I don't really care too much if I lose a few Killer trials because I know I can switch characters for some variety in my games and I'll typically get at least a couple of wins during a play session.
That said, I would not touch Killer if I'm playing on my Nintendo Switch. The kinds of Survivors I go up against on a regular basis would eat me for breakfast on that platform. Trapper is my only viable Killer on Switch because catching Survivors in your traps is the same on any platform. It's so bad, I consider a 2K a "win" on Switch. I feel like I've totally ruined the Killer experience for myself by linking cross-progression to my Switch account. So yeah, it's definitely a stressful time playing Killer on Switch.
I will admit I did experience quite a bit of anxiety when playing 2V8 with another Killer. Especially if I played poorly and couldn't get any pressure or cages, I felt like I'd let the other player down. But it might not have felt so bad if they hadn't been waiting so long in a queue to play.
I guess part of what I like about Killer and Solo Q Survivor is that they are primarily solo experiences. You don't have to worry so much about letting others down because you're mostly playing for yourself and self reliance becomes more the focus of the game play loop.
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Had that when I started playing. At this point though, playing killer feels like doing the dishes. You know you often dont want to do it, but youve done it often enough that it becomes routine.
Dont stress yourself when playing a video game. Real life is already stressful enough.
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Anxiety from having your 4K streak broken? Solo Q is 10x worse and I play both sides.
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Maybe when I was first playing but it faded for me after a while.
Just about mindset for me, personally. Once I figured out I could set the tone of the match just as much as Survivors could, it faded away pretty fast.
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sounds like you havent been brought to badham five times in a row due to map offerings
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Hard disagree.
It's subjective, but for me there is almost no anxiety whatsoever when playing surv. And I have thousands of hours playing strictly solo queue. There's just no pressure at all, really. I mean you know going into each match knowing you're probably going to die.
Now I don't often get killer anxiety anymore (except the occasional match where I face an actual high tier SWF and my comp brain kicks in), but when I was in my first few hundred hours I did.
A bit of an anecdote, back in 2020 I had a little bit of a heart arrhythmia and my doc gave me a wearable monitor for about a week. When I went back in to discuss the results, they asked me what I had been doing late at night because there were lots of sustained heart rate spikes. The times were noted, and they were all when I was playing DBD (I was a killer main back then).
IMO, the reasons why killer is more anxiety inducing are:
- You have to manage many more variables; you have to play the meta game, managing four survss, 16 perks, etc. As a surv, it's a series of 1v1 interactions broken up by long stretches of downtime. Killer is all go, all the time.
- As the killer, you should win. At least that's the conventional wisdom. And with expectation comes pressure.
- As a killer, you are almost solely responsible for the outcome of the match (well, and RNG). As surv, responsibility is diffused over the whole team. And if you lose, you often have someone else to blame (whether they actually are or not).
- Many killers, including myself, play mostly B/C tier killers and have to fight for their lives to win. Not every killer is a 10K hour Blight/Nurse main just cruising to 4Ks.
- Survs are more likely to let you hear it after match. I mean statistically, since it's 4v1.
Now don't mistake all of this as saying it's harder to win as killer. It surely isn't, at least when we're talking about solo queue. It's just more stressful, and imo, it isn't remotely close.
Now what I did to alleviate that were two things:
- I started playing a lot of survivor. Over my last 4K hours or so, I'm probably a 60/40 surv/killer player, and close to 3K/3K overall.
- I totally disabled all avenues for others to communicate with me in game and in platform. Now I just play how I want and don't worry about it.
And just spending so much time in the game that I realized that it is so inherently imbalanced that it's kind of pointless to take it seriously.
So yeah, imo there isn't a clean correlation between winning or losing and stress level.
Post edited by Thusly_Boned on9 -
we just need all the people on this forum who keep telling us that the game is way too killer-sided and they get easy 4Ks every match to post some of their gameplay videos so we can all learn how to play stress-free
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It's not even that people saying that aren't actually winning. It's that a lot of the people who say "oh, and I do play both sides" do play some killer, but haven't played nearly enough to even hit the soft cap. Low level killer is really, really easy. Especially if you're an experienced surv player who comes in with that developed game sense.
But having a couple hundred hours in killer tells you nothing about what it's like at a thousand hours plus. Just about anyone who has climbed the ranks as killer will tell you there is a jarring difficulty spike. In the cases of people who say they 4K 90%+ of their matches, one of these things is almost certainly the case:
- They're lying (or at least heavily embellishing)
- They're extrapolating from a tiny sample size
- They haven't played enough killer to start playing actual competition with any consistency
- They've got thousands of hours in killer, probably main an S or A tier killer, and sweat their asses off
But again, this topic isn't really about the winning or losing, but how the nature of the two roles contribute to anxiety. Because the killer is the one in the 1v4, the player simply has to actively manage much more than a surv player. You can get totally frazzled while winning and be totally unfazed while losing.
Even though I was winning more often than not, I experienced more stress in hours 500-750 (when I first hit that aforementioned difficulty spike) as a killer than in my 3K+ total hours as a solo queue surv combined.
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I literally have generalised anxiety disorder but I funnily enough don't experience anxiety in either role unless I take an extended break from the game. I'm always nervous for my first game back but once it's done I'm okay from then on. If I'm having an irl bad day, I don't play at all. That's just a self care thing I think.
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When i log in to dbd, i feel like playing something like dracula or xeno, and then i click survivor for some reason because im just in the mood to warm up and get some bloodpoints instead of worry about winning. As survivor in solo que you go in expecting to lose, hoping to win, with killer you go in expecting to win, hoping to not lose.
Ive played enough of both sides to have all the achievements n challenges done and often get to red rank 1 before resets on both sides so im confident in my abilities as killer and used to playing survivor as well, which makes me follow the unwritten rules of no tunneling/camping/team slugging and just try to win with skill alone.
But theres some times where the survivors stress you out enough to force you into tunneling halfway through the round regardless, like someone following you with a flashlight everytime you knock someone down they are there to blind n t bag, so you get that person out of the game so you can actualy hook someone else etc. And im surprised how many bully squads there are out there, for example i knocked someone down, and had one guy screaming with scene partner behind me with a flashlight, i look to my right at the hook on the hill and someones crouched next to it with a toolbox alredy i look to the left and theres another crouched around the corner with a flashbang, and so i just disconnect lol other times they arent compitent so they constantly throw themselves at u instead of the generators so u win. But yea killer side is just something you have to really be in the mood for or push yourself to get the ball rolling anyway.
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Past a certain point, I stopped having Killer anxiety.
For me, and I do play Killer fairly often, I realized that I quite literally have no reason to actually justify bashing myself for not performing well. DBD is a game, and I spent a long time it taking insanely seriously where I had to win every single game. Eventually I just kind of stopped, I set small goals for myself, stuff I know I could do or work towards, and nothing extreme, and it's helped a lot, I would highly recommend it. Winning stopped being important to me, and with it, the game became more relaxing, since I could just play on my own terms, and play however I wanted to.
Finally, I also just kind of stopped caring about what people think of me, sometimes you just make people upset, and it's not a matter of you doing anything wrong, some people want to be upset and want to use other people as a punching bag. I have a lot of +rep and -rep, Ive had good and awful things said to me, past a certain point you remember more of the positive experiences than awful experiences, at least for me it did.
None of this is to discount Killer anxiety, but just to say that things can, and often do, get better as time goes on. For some people, it is a steadily progression, for me, things just clicked right into place, it's not an easy process to get into but it is possible.
Post edited by Iron_Cutlass on6 -
Good take. I feel the same way.
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I DEFINITELY had that back when I was playing dbd. Not wanting to end up getting bullied by a toxic swf or dragging my team down the handful of times I managed to play survivor.
But i have performance anxieties in nearly all aspects of my live.
Be it school, work, romantic relationships or even nowadays in lol ranked queue or ATM in wow in form of tank/healer anxiety.
Some deep seeded trauma of having to fulfill the expectations of my parents or something.
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I feel like killer anxiety is mainly caused by the fact that you are in a 1v4. So if you are getting bullied, it is you alone against 4 people. It never feels good to be ganged up while you are alone, and people who have experienced this at school can say as much.
On that note, I have talked with people about 2v8 and they have said that they are much less anxious when playing killer in that mode. Even though there are 8 people ok the other side, the fact that the killer has a buddy to back them up helps them relax. Humans are a social species after all, so being with someone else makes us feel more secure.
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This is one of my favorite topics and comes up quite a bit.
Backstory: When I started playing the game I watched a few streamers (none of the big ones) and played an equal number of games on both sides before posting on the forums. I knew that people argued over the game, but I also was of the mindset - 'okay, balance is a debate, but its obvious that killer is the role people go to chill out in and survivor when you want to have a heart attack.'
I was quite shocked that a lot people had the exact opposite take.
If Killer role was all that existed I would have maybe played the game for a week or two and moved on. It's fine. If I win, okay, if a lose, also okay. Neither really feels impactful (its not a bad game, but not worth putting thousands of hours in). Sometimes I get into the killer role, but no more, and probably less, than I would any other multiplayer game. But escaping as a survivor, getting the others out, feels great, and losing a close game at the end feels devastating in ways no other games have been able to match for me.
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You have to manage many more variables; you
have
to play the meta game, managing four survss, 16 perks, etc. As a surv, it's a series of 1v1 interactions broken up by long stretches of downtime. Killer is all go, all the time.
As the killer, you should win. At least that's the conventional wisdom. And with expectation comes pressure.
As a killer, you are almost solely responsible for the outcome of the match (well, and RNG). As surv, responsibility is diffused over the whole team. And if you lose, you often have someone else to blame (whether they
actually
are or not).
Many killers, including myself, play mostly B/C tier killers and have to
fight for their lives
to win. Not every killer is a 10K hour Blight/Nurse main just cruising to 4Ks.
Survs are more likely to let you hear it after match. I mean statistically, since it's 4v1.
I like the list you put together. Here's my IMO on why I kind of have the opposite reaction.
1: I never found the variables that tricky to manage, in fact I was kind of surprised at the elements of killer strategy that weren't evident to people when I started. That said, I find it much more stressful to make occasionally, but extremely impactful decisions.
Which gen do I go for? Am I running into the killer? Am I going for the save or someone else? Should I use this god pallet or save it?
And all of those decisions are made with limited info on what the other survivors are doing. Trying to piece that together and make the right call carries a lot of stress
2: Expectation doesn't bring pressure, just kind of a 'meh' feeling. Because winning feels underwhelming, losing just doesn't matter that much. I don't really care when I win because I'm expected to, so I don't really care if I lose.
3: This is the one which I probably have the biggest change of feeling on.
If I'm in a 1v1 activity and I make a mistake, no big deal. I'm relaxed, having fun, trying to win, but if I screw something up I tell myself to do better next time and move on. I want to win, don't get me wrong, but definitely can handle my mistakes.
If I'm in a team and I contribute to us losing, I'm devastated. If I don't give my absolute best for the team it's awful. If I mess up a chase, don't spot a killer, misread what another survivor is doing, and I have let other people down, well that's the worst feeling. A single mistake as survivor feels like not only do I lose for myself, much worse than that I cause others to lose.
Sidenote: I'm in my 40s, this is the exact opposite to how I would have felt thirty years ago when team activities where nice and relaxing and individual sports felt like do or die.
4: I played a bunch of perkless Sadako for a while. It felt like giving the other team a 10 point handicap or an extra player. So when I lost, it didn't really matter. This is kind of the opposite of point two, I gave you guys the handicap, so the fact that you won is what was supposed to happen.
5: I can see that, though chat doesn't bother me much and I'll just turn it off if it does.
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One thing that I'll add, as killer I always feel like I have something that I can play for. Even matches where things are going against me, I can still play for a 1k. It feels like I got something at the end. Even games where I get like 8 hooks spread out I can still feel like I played a really good, fair game.
As a survivor, there doesn't seem to be any feeling of 'well, at least we completed 4 gens instead of 3'. I want to escape and I want the other survivors to escape, and there's no 'at least we got to X' point, its all or nothing.
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Tbh, the only way the described form of anxiety can be removed is if killers are guaranteed to stomp if they want to. And that doesn't ring healthy to me.
That degree of anxiety is down to expectation management - and in part that's the players (if you have the mindset "but killer is the power role" and expect matches to go accordingly you'll be disappointed. A lot.) and in part that's bhvr (because they do like to sell the idea of killer as the dominating power role).
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Anxiety? No. I can feel frustration if I play a lot but that goes for survivor too.
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I still have anxiety playing myself to this day.
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It's not exclusive to DBD, but there are factors that make that anxiety stand out more. It's more of an anxiety towards being judged by others.
I would compare the situation to being the last one alive in a Counter Strike match where you know people are watching and judging every movement you make. That can devolve into a feedback loop if it goes unchecked, tanking your performance, making the issue worse.
If you wouldn't care about other peoples judgement in that way, you wouldn't feel it.
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Oh yeah, I used to get killer anxiety a lot back when I first started playing DbD. I felt like if I sucked as killer then I ruined the match for the other four people or something. This lessened when I stopped taking the game seriously and started memeing more often. Turning off messages on PS4 also helped a great deal.
Now, we have anonymous mode (except Xbox players, I'm so sorry you guys), and that's the best thing.
I got this same anxiety back when I played Ewok Hunt at its release in Battlefront II. It would start with a single Ewok, and if I was the starting Ewok and I did poorly it felt awful. There was a lot less pressure when the number increased to two starting Ewoks.
The anxiety of playing alone against an opponent (perhaps especially against a group) seems to be a natural thing for a lot of people.
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If you ask me, can confirm.
Quite important to stop and play other games for a while and dont force yourself to play.
Also helps if you just stop caring of everything and just "go". There is a point where no matter what, you will get flammed xD
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Thanks for the tip, but…
How would this help exactly?😅For me is not exactly how they act (tbags, nods, hanging at exit, etc), but the things they can do to counter the killer.
Not saying that using flashlights, flashbangs, sabo hooks and etc is wrong, but's infuriating AF.
Have to agree that survivors are WAY more scarier than the killer in this game. The killer is just a jester/clown.Makes sense.
I would say making an occasional "no no" to survs when they do something REALLY bad or stupid indeed made it better.😂
That's how I feel about 2v8 too.
You have a partner to "alleviate the burden", but I also think that survs not being able to frustrate EVERY SINGLE ONE of your hook attempts also helps.
AND when you have 6 to 8 survs escaping and then go to the results screen and see that you scored 32K and your partner less than 20K you end up laughing because 1v8 is impossible to win🤣0 -
I guess that deep down I'm too damn competitive and still care what people think of me.
If I play surv I consider a Gold or Iri Evader emblem a win even if I die. Killer feels like you're lying to yourself if you get a 4E and still think that you did great even when you ended some chases in a awesome/smart way.Post edited by Dadeordye on-1 -
Well I can't say that I have that. I'm using what I can most of the time, and if I'm insulted for that I find it funny a lot of the time. There's simply no reason for me to be scared, because I can crossmap the dwight tbagging me behind a car 80 meters away, and in the end he's the one that made himself look like an absolute joke xD
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Mm I mean I can only play one killer game or max two per day. Survivor I can play 10 games in a row no problem. Playing killer drains my energy even if it's fun also.
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Same here.
One of these days I've decided to play killer 8 hours straight.
I felt exhausted after 6😂
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@Dadeordye in response to your question, turning on Anonymous Mode keeps you Anonymous thereby relieving the social pressures you're feeling performing in front of a group.
When you're Anonymous, it doesn't matter if you were an embarrassment or an amazing success.
You'll quickly stop worrying about what the Survivors think about you as your gamer tag will not appear.
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Hum…
Interesting.
I'll try that!
Thanks for clarifying! 😁-1 -
"I also just kind of stopped caring about what people think of me, sometimes you just make people upset, and it's not a matter of you doing anything wrong, some people want to be upset and want to use other people as a punching bag"
This here is the key. It could simply be my age (I'm an older millennial) but once you reach the point of no longer caring what people think, things become a lot easier. The people I play with and against don't know me from a bar of soap. I'm nobody. They've forgotten about me once they start thinking about what to make for dinner, and they're unlikely to ever think about me again.
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I get anxious when playing survivor.
I only get killer frustration.
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Switch has anno too? See ik they are rarest players compared to the other plateforms but I wouldn’t know.
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It's much harder to win in solo queue but it definitely does not cause more anxiety. There is more pressure to perform when playing killer since everything comes down to your individual performance.
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Yes, Switch and PlayStation both have Anonymous Mode.
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Ah cool oof rip xbox that is why I never got into xbox Microsoft and there games where never my cup of tea cept that one game fable and dead or alive xd. Was always just a Playstation and Nintendo guy.
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Its a lonely life out there as killer. You by yourself against four people. I get why people feel anxious.
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Downvote for asking a general question? Lord these pathetic cowards.
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