That's not how Map Offerings will work. The effects wont stack altogether, even if a different Map Offering is used.

Let's say 4 Survivors all run different Map Offerings, it would be a 1/4 (25%) chance to get a desired Realm out of a 20% for the Map Offering going through, or a 1/20 (5%) chance of getting a desired Realm… keep in mind that some Realms have multiple Maps, so if you want a very specific map, the chances can be further lowered by that factor. They want to severely reduce the effectiveness of Map Offerings, which they have done.

The worst part about the change is that it negatively impacts Survivor achievements, since getting a specific map for the "do the Generator at the Main Building of (insert Map) and escape" is made far worse, and achievements like Hemophobia and Outbreak Breakout (which are already terrible) are made into nearly impossible tasks.

Kill Rate adjustments are sometimes literally slightly faster kicking speed, which is a zero QOL imrpovement.

We are quite literally getting Killer (and technically Survivor) QOL improvement via a Gamma slider, which people have been asking for, since not everyone has a good monitor/TV.

And again, they will probably make more changes, we just lack the information, BHVR is listening to community feedback.

Survivors sometimes get real QOL improvements, and Killers are just promised a certain Kill Rate, like it's a giant present that Killers should be grateful for, as opposed to something necessary for the game.

Maybe because Survivor lacked a lot of information and basic accessibility options for a really long time?

I have a hearing impairment, I struggle to hear certain things sometimes, the visual Terror Radius was a massive step in the right direction for BHVR, since before I would often die and feel frustrated because I could not hear some aspects of the game. Furthermore, Colorblind Settings, while not the most helpful at times, can be helpful to a lot of players.

I really dont see the point in looking at another person's plate and saying "well, they got more food then me" when earlier they were starving.

None of this is to say that Killers dont need accessibility and QOL features, but the way you go about it really does ignore how awful things were for Survivor compared to Killer prior to the updates and changes made, the game was incredibly unfriendly in terms of accessibility.

They didn't say you said you said "0%"

They said you said 0 of the currently announced changes. Because they were directly quoting you. They went on to argue why some of the changes would benefit killer specifically within the context of slugging - for example, that now survivors have at most a 20% chance of pulling off The One Consistently Unhookable Situation left. Also, survivors being able to get one of the maps they want 58% of the time if they all 4 coordinate is objectively an improvement from being able to get a map they want 100% of the time for the cost of 1 offering (from the killer perspective)

If you want to reply with some stinging retort, please instead log off for a bit and practice self care. You're getting so involved in arguing that you're not actually engaging with the words that are there

Would this version of Knock Out not help against experienced survivors who know when to predrop and run?

@danielmaster87  Survivors' builds literally turn the worst possible scenarios for them into positives.

Without sounding like Im flaming, because Im not, isn't this kind of what builds for either side are supposed to do?

Picking up a survivor and two flashlights pop outta nowhere? Lightborne turns that worst case scenario into a net positive, as now three survivors are off gens with zero gain.

I feel this is the literal reason for builds. Survivors pack perks to give second, third, etc chances.

I guess my question is do you feel the quoted statement doesn't apply to killers? Would love to discuss if so. Ty!

extreme doomposting

It's very strange how hard the discourse in this community has shifted towards hooks not being the default, main interaction with the game. It's like if people started clamouring to avoid needing to chase survivors, or something.

"Hooking" is not a tactic or a playstyle, it's just one of the core interactions of the video game, same as chasing. There are plenty of tactics and playstyles that surround hooking, and slugging also doesn't require Knock Out to be done so it's still an option.

100% deserved. A farewell to the most unhealthy perk in dbd. Good riddance.

I mean the anti-slug project is absolutely survivor sided. Killers don't need anything to help them, they can just… STOP SLUGGING. Simple as that. That is something they (you) have control of all on their (your) own and don't need help. Survivors need the help because they (we) cannot control if/when/how a killer slugs.

You all will just find another way to make this game miserable for survivors, it's what you do best.

The surrender option will absolutely help killers and will increase slugging not fix it. Imagine going into a stream for the first time and watching someone 4 man slug as billy then walk around the map to pick up their slugs while running deerstalker and actually saying "I can't wait for the surrender option to go live so it makes these games quicker and I don't have to pick everyone up and deal with a possible 4%)

Again, stop slugging and we wouldn't even be here.

Anytime survivors have a problem, it gets dealt with.

This has been a problem for almost a decade. They held off on fixing it for as long as they could, but there really is no way around it anymore. Sorry!

I have waited for this moment for years and it's finally happening. RIP Knock Out. You won't be missed.

I'm not so sure about the new version though. You can always force it to trigger just by breaking a pallet immediately, which seems a bit weird, given the requirements.