General Discussions
General Discussions
Report system abuse
So I've made a habit out of watching vods of streamers I've versed after the match is over. Mostly because there are a lot of streamers that give a lot of insight into how the game is progressing and also how you as killer screwed up or what you could have done better. You don't get much feedback from the other side normaly. For clarity: I watch the Vod AFTER the match has ended.
What really baffled was how many of those streamers and therefore probably also normal players abuse the report system. "Oh you play Legion and mending is unfair" ⇒ reported for exploiting. "Oh you use huntress with her broken hit boxes" ⇒ reported for cheating. "Oh I died first on hook" ⇒ gameplay abuse.
I got so many reports just for picking the wrong killer or not playing the demanded 12 hook, stand in a corner after each unhook and let people reset srat. And those are just the reports that I saw on stream and I am sure about since they were streamed. Guess the normal amount is much higher.
Like it's no wonder that the report system doesn't do anything if everyone reports every killer, survivor or playstyle they don't like.
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I imagine those types of reports get ignored, but I do agree that all that clutter is probably getting of the way of them dealing with the more legit issues (i.e. hacking).
I also enjoy watching vods of other streamers, whether they were teammates or the opponent. You can get some interesting insight that way. Or maybe they might compliment how you play. XD
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Yeah, that happens a lot, its this urge to hurt to one you humiliated you, any way possible, and this is just a convenient way for many. Its always funny when they say "for reports for cheating incoming" when you outperform them massively or your gamesenses tell you "the scratchmarks suddenly disappeared, lets check this locker here" and they go full on "how could you know that I was in that locker? Cheater!".
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Everytime I go to reload as Huntress and accidentally get a survivor instead, I think about that.
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That sadly happens in a lot of games, sometimes even with a notice for you, my awnser is always: "Sure have fun, and see how wrong you are. Won't do anything because I didn't use an aimbot" (this example happened relatively often on huntress, but also on deathslinger somehow. How would this even work with the time difference until it hits) xD
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Entitlement. I just woke up this was all I could come up with lol..
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I've seen someone using an aimbot for Trickster. The guy had that, wallhacks and was able to hit ppl through walls. He was downing ppl from across the map.
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Still doesn't make a lot of sense, in theorie the aimbot should miss relatively often then. Otherwise he had to aim in front, but that would be really easy to outplay then.
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Any reports thrown in at random are piled up.
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Sometimes you have to "guess" when you suspect someone is cheating though as it has always been this dial like program people can adjust on the fly. And you really can never tell until its blatantly obvious.
Walling is usually easy if you have a counter perk that shows you them doing it, but sometimes its hard to tell if they just guessed right 11/11 times on a 50/50 chance.
The ones that are usually common though are turn a corner and slight speed boost when the killer cant see. Which again if you have some sort of timed aura read (someone unhooking your floods when in chase with the cheater) you might catch, but sometimes you wont.
Or there is questionably timed "lag" on the server every time you get close to getting a hit as well.2 -
People abuse the reporting system because it's simply easier for a person to assign blame than accept responsibility, and it's often a knee jerk response.
It's human nature; "that person did something unfair to win" is a whole lot more palatable than "I got outplayed", "I really screwed up there" or the elephant in the room for all of us - "maybe I'm just not as good as I thought I was".
And once a person falls into the habit of blaming, it can get out of hand. I've seen streamers reporting people for absolutely absurd things like every other match.
Yeah, me too. A somewhat experienced player should absolutely know that there are certain killers who will frequently open lockers, and you often can't predict when. If you're facing a Huntress, Trickster, or Dredge, you have to very mindful when getting in lockers. That seems like it should be obvious.
And on more than one occasion I've opened a locker to proc Darkness Revealed and been literally startled when there was a surv in there. And them I'm like "well, I'm getting reported, lol".
But streamers screaming about stream sniping/hacking because they were found in a locker is something I have seen a lot.
And I think this is yet another manifestation of issues caused by people not playing enough of each role. A lot of these people are surv mains who simply aren't fully aware of what killer might be seeing/hearing. In a lot of these cases, there were multiple easily explicable reasons the killer could know they were in that locker, but they simply aren't aware of them. Some of them were breathtakingly obvious.
And of course the same dynamic applies to killer mains who never play surv.
So yeah, I think a good chunk of these frivolous reports are down to people simply not understanding the other side.
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You need video evidence to back up cheater reports, so i guess the report player "because you lost" wont do anything unless you have video evidence that they broke the rules.
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Quite interesting, it does aim infront and works better than I thought. Well I was also told that I use an aimbot for trickster and after seeing this: NOT EVEN CLOSE xD
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No you don't, but it helps a lot xD
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https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/kb/articles/139-game-rules
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Lilith Omen got recently banned by mass reporting… So it doesn't seem to be ignored.
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People think killers playing the game normally is toxic, and think it needs reporting because of that.
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I've reported without video before. Got a message afew days later that actions were taken.
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Really? i have only had that because they admitted cheating in the endgame chat, and i wrote that in my report.
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I'm on PS5, so no in game chat to begin with. This happened during the last 2v8.
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And I did it more than once without and did get a message that action was taken, and no message ever that they need video evidence.
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these "troll" reports are the big reason for two things:
1. more players being encouraged to report for completely non-reportable stuff (looping, doing gens, tunneling, camping, slugging, doing various techs that are completely valid) because they saw their fav streamer doing it, creating the "ohh, if they reported it, it must be reportable!" mindset.
2. report system being clogged with these "troll" tickets, making it much more difficult for support team to deal with literal game rules breaking.
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I don't know if this was ever officially confirmed but I read that you get this message if someone gets banned that you reported, regardless of whether your report was looked at or not.
I.e. you report someone in-game only (no one looks at your report because it requires video evidence, and looking at it would be a waste of time without additional evidence from a support ticket), someone else reports in-game and with a support ticket + evidence and that ticket leads to that player getting banned you are getting a notification as well even though no one looked at your report.
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