This has been the case for a while now, both killer and survivor matches have been the same. People DC, go next, avoid gens, pretty much anything other than play the match. And it's rare it's due to anything the killer does specifically. It seems mostly due to people not wanting to play certain maps or not wanting to play v a certain killer. In several of my survivor matches recently people have DC or go next within first 30 seconds of the match before the killer has even done anything. I try to find logic in this behaviour but I genuinely can't see it. A bit like when people DC mid mori... Penalty is longer than the animation and they forfeit their BP for the match lol no logic. They really need to up the DC penalty to stop people like this joining lobbies and ruining matches for not only the killer but their own team mates, it's mostly the team mates that take the brunt of it.

Ooof, so that is why Sable players are being looked down on. Not cool.

At least this Sable is not a quitter 😄

This has been happening for a while now, since at least the bots were added. It's just a way of crapping on your team and also the Killer by refusing to leave them even the meagre aid of a bot.

EDIT: Downvoting me does not change the fact that people DC to ruin the game for others.

A valid point in all honesty.
I guess that is why most survivor players prefer to SWF rather than playing alone. I much prefer having at least a duo partner, than going in solo.

it’s only going to get worse. And if they continue to add penalties and increase penalties, they’re just gonna lose players altogether and you’re gonna sit and wait for 30-45 minutes in a queue to get one match.

This is what happens when a developer tries to fix symptoms rather than problems. The more that they Nerf perks and killers the smaller the pool of desirable killers becomes. People are going to run with killers that can actually pressure and so what happens is you get survivors that have gone against the same killer eight times in a row and they start “going next” because they want something different. But rather than fixing the issues with the game and making hooking worth it for killers, we’re just gonna continue to Nerf everything into the ground until we have zero people playing this game is what their answer is.

The reason is that the game is too killer sided. They see maps that are very small with a killer that has an even more of a killer sided loadout and they don't want to deal with it and quit.

I'd say I'm surprised, but I'm not. This is the result when BHVR wants to pander to one side of the community rather than address the actual root causes and problems that people have being raising the flag for, FOR YEARS.

But, alot of it has to do go with the "I hope next match will be better" Mentality. It's a twisted kind of adoration for the game but that's what keeps DBD going, unfortunately. Alot of players just DC or go next hoping for a better match, only to run into another killer running meta perks like Pentimento, Plaything, Thana, PGTW and Pain Res

Coupled with oppressive killers like Dracula or Singularity, and you get the aggravated "Alright, let's move on." Mentality.

This isn't even surfacing the issue of Slugging/Camping that Killers love to do and then hide behind their wall of "u played this offering, of course I'm gonna slug. " Or "Look at what perks you had, of course I'm gonna tunnel" Like it's a proper excuse while you're running the ultimate Gen slow down build and expect people to enjoy sitting there for minutes on end watching their 95% gens regress to 60%.

So how do you explain when survivors decide to literally DC and go next at the start before the killer has even done anything? which seems to be the majority of people that go next so so at the start v any killer. If people know what killers are going to do (tunnel, camp ect) regardless of what killer it is then it begs the question why play at all? Fair enough if it's a case of maybe the next match will be better because they are giving the next match a chance. But to DC at the start before anyone has even had a chase isnt giving the match a chance so it makes no sense why join unless they are looking for a specific killer on a specific map to use a specific build.

a while a go I was killer and literally couldn't get a match at all because I had a map offering, people would DC in loading screen and they openly admitted they wanted their map (usually autohaven) nothing to do with what killer it was or what build they had or what tactic the killer used. It's a case "I want this and this and if I don't get it I will DC or go next" sorry but that kind of childish mindset isn't something that bhvr should pander to.

Survivors say "why should I play something I don't enjoy?" Fair enough but the fact people go next at the frequency they do says they don't enjoy the game so simply don't play. It's almost like they roll a dice hoping to get a 6, if they get anything other than a 6 they reroll and try again...and again until they get that 6. Each time they reroll that dice they don't screw over the killer they screw over their own team mates and that's why so many people don't enjoy survivor soloq.

I think it goes back to the 'over powered' killer attitude, especially on a sweaty night. "OMG! Another Skull merchant!! Kill me now!" Furthermore, if everyone has two hooks within the first two minutes with five generators remaining, I do not like to rage quit or move on to the next game, but I understand the motivations. Sometimes it is better to simply offer someone the Hatch and move on.

Still manage to get people who try their best.

Glad to see a fellow Sable enjoyer :)

I have also noticed when playing survivor that I am more likely to be tunneled as Sable than with any other survivor. Is there an anti-Sable conspiracy or something 🤔

I took a 6 month break and just returned last month doing survivor only and back to my killer main yesterday. It's nice to come back with a fresh pair of eyes.

I dont think this is going to get better until BHVR starts dishing out heavier punishments for people giving up the second somthing doesnt go their way. When people quit a match it sucks for the killer, and it sucks for the survivors too. Its like playing a board game with a child who decides to flip the board when something doesn't go their way.

What does that have to do with what the original poster said?

Mentioning Trapper, who is amongst the lowest tier of killer doesn't change the fact that a combination of burnout and the multitude of 6.1.0 buffs, nerfing maps, getting rid of fog, having maps brighter, and introducing terrible jungle gyms on already weak maps, such as Coldwind doesn't change the fact that people proceed to "go next" due to Behavior's decision making.

Toss in Distortion nerfs (ruining stealth playstyles, encouraging chase playstyles to be baseline to survivors + the aforementioned map nerfs) make survivors DC or kill themselves on hook to prevent eating a penalty. Behavior has been doing questionable nerfs for a while now, especially with them proceeding to not listen to feedback regarding gen spawn logic, the above ^, and the Wake Up nerf that they did not listen to.

Once the changes of the surrender comes into the picture where you have to have everyone downed to surrender will be more frustrating - as Behavior time and time again has outright ignored feedback causing the game to be what it is today.

I wonder if I change my avatar to a Survivor PFP, will people start upvoting my takes…?

It's also like the feeling that if you play as survivor you are literally doomed as there were a lot of nerfs done because someone complained about them in the internet, for example Otz was complaining about medkits, now Hens complains about syringes + new youtubers come by, Distortion was absurdly complained about on the forums.

From time to time I see threads about how Lithe is OP or how this little speed boost in Dramaturgy is gamechanging.

Like… seriously?

+ Remember whole DS situation, when they added conspicuous action and some mumbo-jumbo with timings:

5 seconds was definitely too much and we needed to reduce it to 4, huh?

Meanwhile killers got Thrill of the Hunt buff for like… a month? Nobody asked for that, nobody tested that, games were miserable.

Pretty much all of what you described, maps, fog, buffs, nerfs...everyone already knows these when joining a match so why join if these are the reasons people go next? If the killer was OP like nurse or the killer was tunneling I can understand why someone might go next. I mentioned trapper because he's the worst killer by far. Basic M1 killer easy to loop regardless of the map, yet people still go next and DC at the start before trapper has even done anything. They see a trap on the floor and just DC or go next.

It almost sounds like your saying people are going next in protest of BHVR decision making. It would make sense why they would go next at literally anything and everythingbif that's the case but all it will do is push BHRV to up the penalty.

Game has been unfun for survivors for a while now

The only way to have fun is to queue up with friends and just mess up with meme perks

I feel like release day is always a circus

It's also like the feeling that if you play as survivor you are literally doomed as there were a lot of nerfs done because someone complained about them in the internet, for example Otz was complaining about medkits, now Hens complains about syringes + new youtubers come by, Distortion was absurdly complained about on the forums.

soooo...as an example you are using medkits, an item that was very oppressive and even after nerfs is still the most powerful survivor item and nome other addon than #1 most powerful survivor addon + an addon that is way too powerful for how free is: Syringes?

Distortion wise, nerf was completely justified because people using it were either terrible in chases and wanted no interaction with killer just to get 2-tapped by an M1 killer with somewhat decent gamesense or were simply playing the way where they do nothing all game and just hide until everyone else dies.

From time to time I see threads about how Lithe is OP or how this little speed boost in Dramaturgy is gamechanging.

both of those are very strong chase perks btw :)

Remember whole DS situation, when they added conspicuous action and some mumbo-jumbo with timings:

please be real and tell me what the problem with cinspicuous actions is? DS and OTR were literally gigaoverpowered when conspicuous actions weren't a thing (DS is still strong, OTR is way too powerful even after conspicuous actions were introduced).

5 seconds was definitely too much and we needed to reduce it to 4, huh?

5 seconds was literally too powerful, 3 seconds was literally fine against 99% of killers, it just needed something like disabling killer's power for couple of second to make it solid against Blight, Nurse and Billy.

If you need 5s DS against most killers you face, consider improving at the game fr.

Meanwhile killers got Thrill of the Hunt buff for like… a month? Nobody asked for that, nobody tested that, games were miserable.

because BHVR tried to push a meta shakeup on killer side. Even though it wasn't tested and proved to be bad, it actually managed to push hex meta after such a long time of hexes being too weak (excluding Penti)