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Huntress Should Be TWO Killers
Her lore points to her being a Werewolf/ Bodark numerous times throughout her lore.
She should be made into another killer that starts off as The Huntress and after a certain condition is met she can transform into a Bodark but can not change back.
And make it a proper Bodark too. People seem to think Draculas wolf form is good enough but that is NOWHERE NEAR an actual WW/ Bodark. It would be running around standing up and switch to running on all 4s to be a movement ability maybe?
I think survivors would find it fun to because they would spend the potentially a large prtion of the match wondering if it’s actually just The Huntress or The Bodark.
Plz Bhvr, use this idea for free. Thanks.
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The game already has a dedicated monstrous werewolf. It's the Blight, who in every way except actually being a dog is an allusion to Universal's The Wolf Man, from 1941. His power is more or less the exact running-on-all-fours ability you describe too.
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Blight isn’t even close to a Werewolf. Literally in no way can be compared to a Werewolf genuinely lmao😂
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The Blight's name is Talbot Grimes, and the main character of The Wolf Man— you know, the man who is a wolf— is named Larry Talbot. He is given a silver cane to protect himself from the wolf man that is secretly him, hence why Blight uses a cane. Blight has a nigh-quadrupedal stance during a rush, his entire power is built on the idea that he was a once normal man now transformed into a beast, and his original teaser is very obviously a play on werewolf transformations seen in movies, so much so people straight up thought he would be a werewolf. Sure, Blight also incorporates themes from The Strange Case of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde, but he is ABSOLUTELY Behaviour's take on a werewolf.
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No. I think it's interesting to have a killer that is a werewolf, but I don't think the power should surround the idea of "pretending to be another killer." There are only 2 ways that could go, extremely useless or way too confusing. Given the fact that the community already doesn't seem to know how half the killer roster works, I'm leaning towards in practice it being way too confusing to deal with. I can already see the reports flooding of people "hacking" when in reality they're just playing the killer. Also it would mean when you are facing the killer that is usually the one the werewolf is usually mimicking, people won't trust it making that killer likely stronger indirectly, assuming they know have the werewolf killer worked.
Edit: Also, can you point out where in her lore it points to her being a werewolf/bodark creature? I see that she's territorial and violent in her lore, but she also grew up in the middle of nowhere and her mom died when she was young so I don't entirely see where she comes off as a werewolf.
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The Werewolf would only “Mimic” Huntress because it IS her. People would not think they are hacking lmao, they would look it up.
Even if they did think it was cheats should we throw away a great idea just because baby players would be slightly confused?
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Is it really a great idea if it would mainly cause confusion among players and be a mere gimmick otherwise? Huntress doesn't need to turn into a literal animal to be a valid take on the concept.
Also, even ignoring that, is your suggestion that the killer would start the match as the Huntress as a powerless 115% killer, or as the 110% ranged killer? The former remains a gimmick, the latter removes the need for regular Huntress to exist at all.
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Who cares if new people are confused? You don’t think a new person is confused about Vecnas 45 abilities and 5 magical items with very niche counters? Or Dracula’s turning into a bat and a Wolf? Give me a break. This would be way less confusing than that.
She would be a 110% ranged killer that transforms into a Bodark and can’t change back. Meaning if you want to play a ranged killer you wouldn’t pick that version of her because you would lose you ranged ability when you transform. You could put it on a random timer so survivors wouldn’t know exactly if it was the Bodark or not until she transforms. And she would stay transformed permanently.
This is in fact a great idea and awesome killer concept that has a small amount of deception involved. There is literally no argument to stand on for it to not be a killer. We don’t have a werewolf killer, Blight isn’t even close and we should have one. Simple.
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- The soldiers in her lore call her a Bodark
- She has black eyes (Bodarks have black eyes)
- The Blighted outfit is her transforming into a Bodark (blighted serum is stated to bring out what you really are)
- Werewolf charm for her says “a disguise that fits her too well”
- Superhuman feats (running through flamethrower, killing platoons of soldiers, grizzly bear
- Survived in the forest as a kid (literally impossible for a normal human child)
- Hooked on You has references to it
Theres more but I don’t really care to list them all. It’s very obvious that she isn’t human.
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The werewolf archetype is way too big of an opportunity to be just Huntress reimagined.
If they do make one, they will likely create an entirely new character for it.
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A)Behaviour cares. DbD is already a very uninviting game for new players, they don't want to make that worse. The experience of learning a game is way more important than you seem to realize. Also, it really wouldn't be— Dracula and Vecna have powers with a lot going on, but that's something that you can reasonably learn through playing against them. How is a new player supposed to learn "Yeah, we put this killer in the game twice for some reason, and she transforms some of the time just because"?
B)I feel like if we were to get a second werewolf killer, based around transforming during the match, you'd want that to be a central mechanic. If not, it should just be an intro animation. Nothing more. No reason to make her a ranged character for a random amount of time.
C)There are multiple arguments against it and that line makes me wonder if I'm getting baited or something.
D)Blight's already a werewolf and insisting he isn't doesn't make him stop being the werewolf killer.
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I'm very confused about this whole "Huntress is a werewolf" thing I've seen recently. Nothing about her lore, appearance, or power hints at her being some kind of were-creature. If anything, I think that actually undermines her character. She's supposed to a skilled survivalist and hunter living off the land who takes trinkets and trophy's from her pray, slowly forgetting her childhood and humanity overtime, not some supernatural monster that kills everything in sight. While she does have the Wereelk skin, nothing about it states that it's Ana, and seeing how it has a male voice, I seriously doubt it's her. I believe it's meant to be the Entity's twisted personification of the elk that killed her mother.
That aside, I am surprised we haven't gotten a wereworlf killer yet, since it's such classic horror concept. The Blight is thematically very similar to one, but I still think there's quite a lot of room for an actual werewolf. When/if they do make one, however, I hope it's not connected to Huntress at all and is instead it's own unique character.
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off topic but you were right about the murky reagent stacking on the crows map. It was in fact ironic.
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Huntress being a Werewolf is literally at least 5x less complicated than Vecna and Dracula. It’s a Huntress? 2 minutes into the match is it still a Huntress? No? Oh so it’s a werewolf. Meanwhile Vecna has Flight of the damned, dispelling sphere, fly and mage hand. Chests the you roll a dice on that have interloper boots, interloper gauntlets, the hand of Vecna, the eye of Vecna, all of which do very confusing and niche things to counter his abilities in small ways.
When I say there is no good argument I mean for its complexity. It’s not even close to overly complex.
And no, no matter how hard you reach Blight is nowhere near a Werewolf. Doesn’t look like one, doesn’t act like one, doesn’t move like one and isn’t one. No real case can be made for that. Zero similarities.
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I already listed the countless examples and references in her lore that point to it. It’s quite literally impossible for her to be a human.
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That would be incredibly lame. It would be much more fun for survivors to think it was one killer and then it transforms.
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It's a hypothetically less complex power but it is MUCH more convoluted. "Yeah, this killer sometimes turns into a dog." "Why?" "I don't know." Vecna and Dracula can do a lot, but you explain "This guy casts a few spells, and this guy turns into animals" and that makes a lot more sense than "Huntress is sometimes not Huntress, but instead Huntress that turns into a dog."
Also, Blight only fails on one level— He is not LITERALLY a wolf. If that is your SOLE point, sure, if your only qualifier is "turns into an actual dog", Then he's not. But he is in every way meant to BE a werewolf.
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Huntress would not turn in a dog lmao. It would be a Bipedal Werewolf. A Wolf and Werewolf are two ENTIRELY different things. It wouldn’t be convoluted at all either. It’s very simple.
Blight has no similarities at all I’m not sure if you are looking at Blight or maybe your thinking of Draculas wolf form.
Blight doesn’t resemble a Werewolf in any way at all and the examples you provided to substantiate your claim all don’t make any sense at all.
He doesn’t Move, Look, act, behave, resemble, or represent a Werewolf in any way. He is a mad scientist who went insane after taking his own compound and honestly comparing him to a Werewolf undermines his character very heavily and is insulting to his design. He is his own very unique and dope entity that doesn’t resemble anything else.
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I feel like you're really oversimplifying the idea of a werewolf. Blight is a man who is otherwise intelligent, but is reduced to sprinting around like a reckless animal with a stance that is nearly quadrupedal. He very intentionally plays on the same ideas as werewolves, he is a human deprived of his dignity and rationality by an animalistic pursuit of sustenance— In his case, the pustula serum rather than flesh, but that's just one of the ways BHVR has made him a werewolf without him being a direct 1:1 cartoon character werewolf, a reinterpretation of the concept rather than a dry, beat-by-beat replay of the idea. They do this with Oni, who is a take on vampires as a bloodsucking noble, the Plague, who is a divinely ordained, wrapped walking corpse that's an interesting take on mummies in horror. Blight's no different.
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We’re not gonna make any progress here. He is nowhere near a Werwolf. He isn’t affected by the moon. He isn’t weak to silver. He doesn’t look like one in any way. He ISNT quadrupedal (not even close)
He is his own unique character.
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And Dracula doesn't die instantly on Coldwind Farm. I guess he's not a vampire.
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Irellevant point. Dracula never had that weakness. It only dulls his power. Good attempt though!
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It's not irrelevant— Vampires dying in the sunlight is a consistent, recognizable part of vampires as an idea. However, it's not immutable. We can still recognize something is a vampire even if it is not, to the letter, the same as the common criteria, so long as it embodies the most important parts of the concept. The Blight is not a one-to-one werewolf, but carries over the transformation, the killing of humans for sustenance, the degradation and loss of humanity. He carries over the hunched over, almost-but-not quadrupedal stance, and makes many allusions to THE movie that defines our concept of werewolves. He carries over everything but X weakness, Y limitation, just like many takes on vampires— Including, as you point out, Castlevania's Dracula.
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- The soldiers in her lore call her a Bodark -
Humans have always mislabeled things they don't understand as monsters. That's how so many myths and folktales were created.
- She has black eyes (Bodarks have black eyes)
Many killers have black eyes. Such as Clown, Artist, and Bubba. It's a sign of the Entity's influence.
- The Blighted outfit is her transforming into a Bodark (blighted serum is stated to bring out what you really are)
Yes the serum brings out the worst in you, hence why it makes Huntress more animalistic, but that's not indicative that she was a werewolf before injection. It doesn't state that she is becoming a Bodark or were-creature in the outfit's description.
- Werewolf charm for her says “a disguise that fits her too well”
I haven't seen that charm so I can't comment on it well, but it's also just a charm. Not really the finest piece of lore if you ask me, but still, I'll give it to you.
- Superhuman feats (running through flamethrower, killing platoons of soldiers, grizzly bear
Many killers commit superhuman acts in their lore. There's no way that Trapper and Nurse could feasibly kill so many people for instance. Either it's Behavior's exaggerated storytelling, or the Entity assisting them. It doesn't mean that Huntress is a Bodark.
- Survived in the forest as a kid (literally impossible for a normal human child)
There have been many stories of people doing just this though? It's certainly not easy sure, but Huntress wasn't just dropped in the forest as an infant, she was given training by her mother.
- Hooked on You has references to it
I haven't played Hooked On You or seen much about, but it's also a goofy spin-off where killers are running around in swimsuits. Once again, not the finest place to get lore from in my opinion, but I'll take your word for it.
I'm not saying that Behavior hasn't made some small pokes and winks to Huntress being a werewolf, but it's not mentioned at all in her original lore and clearly was not their intention when creating the character. I am genuinely not trying to come off as rude in anyway, but I think this is something that people are only believing in to make Huntress seem "cooler" and more modern.
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No child has ever survived in the Forest alone ever before for any real length of time. Even full grown adults die out in the Forest very often. No child would live out there especially in during a Russian winter. It’s literally impossible.
Trapper collapsed a mine on his workers very easy thing for any human who owns a mine to do. Nothing superhuman about that. Although I would say he’s superhuman now after being tortured by the entity with all the hooks and stuff. Nurse killed asylum patients which again is very easy for a normal human to do. Smother them in their sleep, inject them with drugs and so on.
Again superhuman feats from her at least proves she’s not human BEFORE the entity takes her. Killers can have black eyes for different reasons just because others have it doesn’t mean it can’t be evidence for her being one.
You really can’t rationally label her as a normal human. Not to mention she’s almost 8 feet tall and throws her 6-8lb hatchets at 115 mph.
I’ve been saying this for years and I haven’t seen many other people ever agree so I don’t think a bunch of people are making it up to make her more interesting. It’s not factual but there’s far more evidence putting towards it than away from it.
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Lore from other killers have shown that the entity will intervene to get what it wants. Even if there are no real life examples, it still doesn't make her a Bodark when we can also just as easily say, "The entity probably intervened to get the version of Huntress it wanted." Don't forget, it also intervened when Artist was going to off herself with the crows. Crows aren't native to South America, but it makes more sense if the crows aren't real and were sent to Artist by the entity. I've come to learn that just because a character does some superhuman act in their lore doesn't mean they did it on their own and there might have been intervention by the entity to make sure it happened that way to get the best result when it was ready to claim whichever killer or survivor it was.
Edit: Just to show why just because soldiers called her a bodark may or may not mean something, if I see a bear on it's hindlegs not facing me and I don't realize it's just a bear and call it bigfoot, is it all of a sudden bigfoot? That's sort of the logic you're going with by saying just because they called her a bodark makes her a bodark.
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Why fix what isn't broken man, Huntress is a simple and straightforward killer that is known and loved and hated, just leave the poor woman be and let her throw her hatchets man.
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TWO KILLERS. TWO! Her original version would still exist. You would have to select a separate version of her to play as the Bodark. She would be on the roster TWICE!!! We need a Werewolf killer. She would be perfect for it and it would be interesting to try and figure out which version of her you’re going against.
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