Making Kaneki Less Oppressive (Feedback and Suggested Changes)

The problem isn't the power, its the fact that the killer can basically camp from the other side of the map. Taking away the mobility just makes it so you actively are encouraged to camp. You get a hook, you get your mobility buff and it encourages you to move way from the hook. Which is what we want.

The solution is to tackle tunneling and camping from a fundamental gameplay perspective, and remove it. Remove the unhealthy play styles, like they are trying to do with slugging. Not just nerf them, not just make them "ineffective" make them IMPOSSIBLE from a gameplay perspective to do. The game would be in a much more fun state for everyone if you had to 12 hook to get 4 kills and the game was balanced around that instead of just killing someone as fast as possible. And not to balance killers around this unhealthy mechanic.

The other thing people need to realize is this killer has been out for a single day. Are you going to tell me that this killer is better than nurse? Or better than blight? I doubt it. People haven't learned to play against it yet, give it some time. Against the higher tier games just a day in i'm already struggling because they are figuring out how to counterplay him. In the average level survivor games they still heal against him constantly, they do the same against legion btw and probably think legion is OP.

If any change should be done, i think the power should not inflict deep wounds. Remove the game delay you get from that and encourage you to stick to a single chase and use the chase power.

My current issues with him:

• Enraged mode lasts way too long (outside of chase of currently marked survivor)
• His ranged injury damage is way too forgiving (too big range and maybe shouldn't injure you behind cover)
• His cooldown should be slightly increased/ bit longer to recover after leap

Honestly he probably needs lower recovery after using power; fast intercept killers like kaneki, Wraith and Legion are something lots of survivors struggle with; people say Legion is bad but even before update if you build them to chase suddenly people don't know what to do. So Kaneki is nothing new to me, so that's what I'd say based off my experience.

I really don't care about the lock on or deep wound, that's just how this hero functions. But some better animations would go a long way I feel, especially for those long range munches

I still think my only real gripes are the width of his M2 strike being pretty generous, and being able to attack from a lower/higher floor than the survivor but that could be an animation issue if it were intended.

Since his M2 can't down, I don't mind that he can strike over mid walls. Tall walls are a different story though, if he's able to do so like others have said. I've played against Legion long enough to know how to survive on one health state as is, and Kanaki is no different unless the player knows how to intercept slide well. I simply plan ahead as far as that goes. Mobility only gets you so far unless you know how to use it.

What I DO like about him, is the fact that when I play him his mobility and rage mode allow me to swap targets and even encourages a slight hit and run. Get enrage from one player, go for another with that extra mobility. As far as returning to hook goes, the only idea I could think of is having post-unhooked survivors become immune to his M2 targeting for a time post unhook, so only M1 would work and the killer has to put in the extra effort, plus theoretically it would prioritize the unhooker if both were still at hook.

But I can only provide my current experience with the killer. I am still playing live and seeing what else might pop up on my end.

Ghoul's cross map mobility is worse then Blight and Billy, and about the same as Dracula.

Even though this killer has fast dashes, Ghoul's dash distance is extremely low, so it's much better at burst movement speed instead of sustained movement speed. And his 3rd dash doesn't slide, which means he's arguably better off not using it for map mobility, unless he has the satchel addon, and even with the satchel addon isn't barely better than just using 2 dashes at a time.

1 set of enraged leaps, is still encouraging the killer to camp instead of patrol the map. Ghoul's map mobility revolves around the increased token regeneration speed in enraged mode, much more than having a 3rd leap. And as I just mentioned before, the 3rd leap is kind of garbage at map mobility, because it doesn't slide, so the killer just awkwardly slows down.

Also, his dash speed doesn't get increased in enrage mode.

Because when you factor those things in play, hes actually in a really healthy state, if you try playing him, and don't tunnel or camp, he's not only fun but pretty fair. Good teams are already figuring out how to play against him, not only am i having fun matches with him, the matches i have been getting are fair, usually very close games that can go one way or the other until the very end.

The reason i bring up nurse and blight is simple. Why are we nerfing killers that are weaker than nurse and blight, while not nerfing nurse and blight? It doesn't make sense.

One of the things people haven't fully learned yet is that slide doesn't happen on the last leap. So when you learn that, you can know when cancelling is good.

I just went against a good survivor team that realized this, and kept track when i was enrage. I ended up getting 1 kill that match with only 5 hooks and the rest getting out.

The were able to know when i was able to slide, and double back and move into the right position to even avoid the attack part of it quite often. Didn't land my first hit until like 45-60 seconds into the match.