So bangs are just useless now ?

Survivors freaking out now that Flashbangs aren’t exploits and insanely broken anymore will forever be hilarious to me.

“What do you mean I can’t land a Flashbang blind from 16 meters away?! KILLER SIDED GAAAAAME!!!”

“What do you mean I can’t drop the flashbang inside the killers hitbox so they literally have no counterplay at all whatsoever! You mean I actually have to have skill!!?!?!? KILLER SIDED GAME!”

If you have any common sense you know there is a perk that exist since the game been born. It's call lightborn which most killers mains admit to using as base kit even if the see no flashlights which is true. As I had matches where no one has flashlight or flashbang and killer has Lightborn

Also you who still ask for more huntress buff when she use to be the most balanced killer before her unnecessary buff not even good huntress content creators like Ralph asked for. So if you want to talk about common sense look into yourself.

That's actually how they used to work before the glitches and for the last several years before this. You are supposed to time when you drop the Flashbangs, they're not supposed to be a perfect save or get out of jail free card. If the Killer was not blinded, it doesn't mean the Flashbang failed, it means your timing was off or they heard the sound and looked away from the blind… which is very intentional, because blinds are meant to have counterplay just like Killer powers are meant to have counterplay.

You're* extremely misinformed actually. About a year ago, before the update that broke them, Flashbangs HAD a louder noise and were easier to avoid. They had been that way since Leon S. Kennedy came to the Fog. They were originally that hard to hit with, actually, and were more a funny haha perk, not a reliable blinding perk unless you really were dead on with them. But when the perk broke, it broke how it interacted with the Killer's hitbox AND the noise for Flashbangs around the same time as other noises were glitched, like Footsteps and Huntress' Elk skin. At the same time Background Player was overtuned. Then they rebalanced Background Player, but forgot to fix the Flashbang glitch. So, the hitboxes were still off, so SWFs were using this to "wallbang" Killers - something that was never possible before and not intended. An exploitable glitch state.

Then BHVR fixed the noise issues, but forgot about Flashbang, so the noise never really got fixed until very very recently. When they did that, they also realized the glitch and patched it out, causing Flashbangs to work as they originally did. That's all that happened, they did not nerf or ruin Flashbangs, they simply patched a glitch that made them unfair. Just like they patched three gen builds, and just like they patched that Oni glitch that caused him to move too fast while in Blood Fury and picking a Survivor up with Iron Grasp. Those were glitches with perks on Killer side they patched out. Survivor perks are not exempt from being fixed when something is wrong with how they perform or when it creates exploitable, unfair situations.

I'm sorry you cannot drop Flashbangs in the Killer's model, can no longer perform wallbangs, and have to actually time your Flashbangs perfectly in chase to make them function. They still work off pallet stuns as intended. They still blind. You just have to actually try now. Kinda like how now, Killers have to actually try to use Xeno's tail, which was also too strong in a glitched unintended way on launch.

Flashbangs drop silently in the actual re 2 and re 3 remakes and in re 5 aster a two second delay while in re 6 it was buff to instant blind with no delay without warning in said games. Else the lickers one of the most annoying re enemies be even more op than they are.

They buff lickers in the remakes 2 and 3 that even the stand still trick don't even work as much like it did in og.

So if they had make flashbang make a cling when drop, they would easily dodge it even though they are blind their hearing is insane.

Point is ofc as I said a few times Capcom and most player who never touched an RE game wouldn't know this.

The Headon-Flashbang trick was patched some time ago as it was also pretty unfair, unnecessary, and wasn't used tactically - pretty much only to harass and annoy Killers. That hasn't existed for a while, friend.

However, it does appear they still work off pallet stuns.

I'm sure you didn't, I'm sure you're a responsible kind Survivor who just wants to properly waste time for your team to get things done, but enough people were doing it to actively annoy Killers - especially Killers that already struggle in chase - that it really was unfun and unfair for those players, so they had to remove it. If you want someone to blame for getting a playstyle nerfed, blame the people who used it to harass other players, not the people who were harassed.

It's not about "oh but I don't do that, I don't think it was meant to be used that way so why can't it come back?" It's about the fact it was being used that way, and that is not the way you're intended to use it. So as per usual, people abusing a thing that is supposed to be tactical - like hook grabs and the Oni glitch where his Blood Fury interacted oddly with Iron Grasp to create speed he shouldn't have had - to grief has caused it to be removed for everyone.

I'm so sorry your fellow players were jerks about using a playstyle you found fun. I was sad when they nerfed Xeno's tail too, it ruined the Killer for me but I respect it was a glitch that had to go for the good of everyone. The same is true here, even if it's disappointing. Unfun and abuseable for some means bad for all, for the health of the game things like that have to be fixed.

Nice Try Buddy but stop lying. Ralph said the buffs she got were fine on the PTB. So did Scott, Squirtle, Ray, Tru3, Coco, Spooky and Ohtofu. All of which know her whereas you clearly have no clue if she is balanced or not.

Not sure why you brought up Lightborn though? Completely irrelevant and doesn’t apply at all to this conversation

Stunning on command is bad and should never happen ever. I’m glad you don’t balance this game honestly. Survivor main for sure.

Oh you watch tru3 no wonder. Did I say flashbang stun? I said lightborn it negates all blind perks making them useless so all the qq about flashbang being bugged and not to do x y z was fix easily with lightborn, so it does have something to do with the topic.

Now if there was no perk to help with the flashbang problem that I get but do not pretend that despite the bugs, you had a perk that counter it. Also you only play survivor argument is so weak and outdated.

I can say that you only play killer and not survivor too then. Fyi I play killer at least 20% of time like this current event since BP is far better to get than survivor nice try buddy.

I think people in this thread are not communicating in good faith.

Flashbanged needed fixed. They were fixed. This is how Devs believe they should work, and I'm sorry for those who enjoy it but it looks like that's not changing. I hope you can find new perks to have fun with instead.

I'll be leaving now, because it's clear we can't have a mature discussion about why this change was made without making excuses or being rude about it. I really did try. :(

6k hours with 5,900 on survivor lmao. I commented several times that Knockout needed a change as the slugging version was lame, so try again pal.

At least I didn’t lie and put words in somebody’s mouth to try and make you look bad. Thats next level gaslighting right there. Very impressive.

Let me try lying like you did and putting words in someone’s mouth! “Coconuts said Huntress is the worst killer in the game and she needs 100 buffs! So now what?!”