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How am I meant to improve my ping?

I play on pc, steam. I use an ethernet cable and I have good wifi, even if my computer is the only thing on it- DBD still doesn't run good. For the past 2 nearly 3 years of playing the game, I have never played one match below 40ms. I am always hovering around 55-65ms, which isn't the worst! But also not the best. I can barely make window vaults because of ping differences, don't even get me started on if the killer is also lagging. Internet speedometer websites give me around 13-20 ping, when I play COD and other games it sits around that level too. I'm wondering is it a me issue, or is it my distance from DBD's dedicated servers? Would I really have to move closer to the nearest server just for a better connection?

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  • bashfulboog
    bashfulboog Member Posts: 83

    Sometimes I've been thrown into UK servers too! It's soso weird, I should be being sent to their East Coast/Virginia server, not wherever they keep pingponging me. I've had several matches where EVERYONE was above 100ms for the entire match for seemingly no reason. I really don't know what's going on :(

  • bashfulboog
    bashfulboog Member Posts: 83

    Yeah I wouldn't even know where to start with updating the router… But fr not everyone can control their ping or how far we are from servers! Sometimes we do everything right and our game still decides to screw us :(

  • WolfyWood
    WolfyWood Member Posts: 586

    Can we at least make it so high-ping is a detriment to the killer instead of a plus?

  • LockerLurk
    LockerLurk Member Posts: 1,683

    High ping should be detrimental/helpful to everyone or it's not fair. No need to punish one side because of bad ping over the other, it should just not exist at all or be equally bad/good for everyone.

  • Caiman
    Caiman Member Posts: 3,472

    I'm also in the American Midwest and I end up in the weirdest matches. Had what seemed to be a Chinese survivor in my match the other day. BHVR doesn't have enough servers for NA, on top of their weird matchmaking algorithms.

  • Thusly_Boned
    Thusly_Boned Member Posts: 3,422

    If you are using ethernet and you're connected directly to the access point, you have the best modem/router your ISP offers, the rest is out of your hands, beyond switching ISPs. And depending on where you live, the local infrastructure may be a limiting factor, which is truly beyond your control.

    I suppose you could upgrade your ethernet cable to cat8, but any difference you might get would likely be marginal. Or upgrade your network adapter (which is likely onboard your mobo), but that would be a lot of work chasing a few milliseconds you probably won't even get.

    But tbo, 55-60ms isn't the end of the world.

    And there is some weird stuff going on recently, imo. I have had several games where everyone had pings north of 200ms. I had a series of games were all the killers had pings over 150ms.

    Like others, I'll get random asian players in my NA matches (and probably european, though that's not as immediately obvious to me), but that has been a constant for years.

  • Nicholas
    Nicholas Member Posts: 2,116

    It's not about banning, but why reward them for lag? Lag can be induced, a problem for a game that rewards it. My ping on DbD is almost always below 35. Still, I am punished when The Killer lags for whatever reason—cheating, VPN, Mobile Hot Spot, poor internet infrastructure, overloaded network conditions, rural, etc. Let the server be the hit authority.

  • Nicholas
    Nicholas Member Posts: 2,116

    @WolfyWood Bingo, it shouldn't be an advantage, and that's the problem with 'Favour The Killer.' That's why I think we need Server-Side Hit Authority. These people with high latency - natural or induced - always feel entitled to having a great game experience that is "fair," but they don't want consequences for lacking optimal network conditions. Everyone else should suffer so they can have a good time.

  • Nicholas
    Nicholas Member Posts: 2,116

    I agree, but 'Favour The Killer' is precisely that, providing The Killer with an ongoing advantage over Survivors. Hits are still handled on The Killer's end, too!

  • Chiky
    Chiky Member Posts: 1,139

    you're complaining about 55-65ms ping? wow. first world problems at is finest. Play with 200ms ping first to see what ia to have relatively bad ping. Maybe then you actually have a difference for vaulting.... And then play with 400+ms ping to know what it's to actually have lag.

  • Nicholas
    Nicholas Member Posts: 2,116
    edited April 16

    I might add that your reply is unnecessarily reductive and reveals a lot about you. There is something wrong and sinister when someone posts a verbose tirade while misinformed. I implore you to educate yourself before posting; it will spare you blushes. For the record, the lag does favor The Killer, hence the name 'Favour The Killer.' The devs have written extensively about it, including how hits are handled on The Killer's end. Good luck!

    EDIT: The post I was responding to was deleted, in case anyone is wondering lol

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  • frozzenk
    frozzenk Member Posts: 100
    edited April 15

    It's kind of funny you wrote "There is something wrong and sinister when someone posts a verbose tirade while misinformed." and then proceeded to not actually address anything I said. You didn't even so much as mention nurse at all. You completely dodged it. I guess I can see why.

    Let me ask the question again, in the hopes that a second time might trigger you to actually address arguments, as opposed to just writing a kneejerk "NO YOU!" post: How on earth is the situation I described benefitting me, oh victimization expert? By all means, feel free to call behavior for them to help you answer.

    Assuming, that is, that you'll actually address arguments which doesn't seem to be something you are very keen on doing.

  • Nicholas
    Nicholas Member Posts: 2,116

    Nothing I said is wrong. Your Nurse anecdote is something else entirely; it has nothing to do with 'Favour The Killer.' I don't need to address this unrelated conflation to be right. I also never said your issues with The Nurse were beneficial; you're making assumptions there. Per the developers, my comments are based on the facts regarding hits, how they are handled, and who benefits (hint: not the Survivor). Your situation sounds more like a server-side issue, which differs from those related to hits and the FtK philosophy.

  • frozzenk
    frozzenk Member Posts: 100
    edited April 15

    You said lag benefits the killer. I play killer. I am lagging. I told you what is happening and asked how is it benefitting me, as you said it was.

    Now you're saying "I never said your issues with nurse were beneficial". Make up your mind friend. And telling me this is "unrelated" is absolutely crazy. Is it only related if it supports your narrative? Holy entitlement batman.

  • Mr_K
    Mr_K Member Posts: 10,338

    55-65 ms is actually good. You shouldn't be having issues unless your above 90-100ms. Maybe it's not your latence but jitter (large differences between response times).

    If you could, clarify the statement

    I use an ethernet cable and I have good wifi

    because it doesn't make any sense.

  • Nicholas
    Nicholas Member Posts: 2,116
    edited April 15

    All of my comments refer to hits. Whenever I mentioned the lag advantage, I also said hits, FtK, and Server-Side Hit Authority. It's not hard to deduce this, but you're making this into a Hatch stand-off for some reason.

    You're not accomplishing anything here; you misunderstood my post, and/or perhaps I should've said "hits" a few more times to reinforce that point. However, you cannot reconcile the fact that it is unrelated and that you were wrong, even after I clarified it. So, you're repeatedly attacking me personally rather than simply acknowledging the misunderstanding and moving on. I'll move away from the Hatch so you can close it, I have better things to do now.

  • tjt85
    tjt85 Member Posts: 1,653

    I also get around about 55 - 65 ms ping when I play on PC (over WiFi). I think that's pretty decent, tbh.

    Weird thing is, this is better than what I get when playing on my Nintendo Switch, which is around about 75 - 85 ms on a good day (sometimes it goes above 100 ms).

    I've tried everything I can think of to improve things but to no avail. I've even forked out money for an ethernet adapter but it made virtually no difference. It's such a mystery to me. One that I can only put down to an extra layer of Nintendo jank on top to the regular DBD jank that somehow adds an extra 20 ms to my connection. I get 40 ms when playing Fortnite on my Switch, so my best guess is that Fortnite has better netcode or closer local servers (or both). I think I'm at least 200 miles away from my nearest DBD server. I also think Switch DBD might frequently send me to a European server, judging by the names of a lot of players. Perhaps that's also an issue?

    DBD is just about playable at 80 ms, but pre dropping pallets is really your only option. There's no chance of stunning the Killer before they hit you. That said, having better ping is typically a big advantage regardless of the side you're playing. I've played against plenty of Survivors with 20 ms connections and they've usually been able to get reliable pallet stuns, as well as avoid most hits over vaults and pallets.

    If the match making system could match up players with similar ping to the server, that would be a big improvement. But that could also impact on queue times, so I can understand why they'd be reluctant to do so.

  • bashfulboog
    bashfulboog Member Posts: 83

    I used to and I am WELL aware of how bad it is. I'm still however, allowed to complain about my ping when it is a detriment to my gameplay and I can't do anything to remedy it. Please stop trying to act high and mighty, it's lame.

  • Bodark
    Bodark Member Posts: 283

    Why would you want good ping? It’s such a disadvantage. I’m going to downgrade my internet because I’m tired of getting punished for having a good connection.

    Can’t tell you how many times survivors stun me on the same side of the pallet that I swung through and they don’t get hit. Or how many pick ups/ grabs are cancelled because there ping is awful compared to mine.

  • 100PercentBPMain
    100PercentBPMain Member Posts: 2,738

    I randomly get games where I'm stuck at 1100 ping and I can't do anything but stare at a wall or hop in a locker all match. My personal record was 11 000 ping where entering a locker broke my entire character.

    Feels bad man