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The Onryo needs a rework (Yes, again)

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  • ObsidianButterfly
    ObsidianButterfly Member Posts: 211

    She's just a very weak killer at the moment. She doesn't reach F-tier with Trapper, Myers and Merchant, but she's definitely at the bottom of D-tier. Her chase is terrible, Condemn is too unreliable and survivors have too much control over her power. The biggest problem is her results simply do not match the amount of effort you have to put in with her. Especially if you compare her to killers with borderline brainless powers that achieve equal or better results for far less effort.

    While I don't really think she needs another rework (even if I would prefer one), she definitely needs serious buffs in almost every part of her kit to bring her to a less laughable position.

  • radiantHero23
    radiantHero23 Member Posts: 5,061
    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3914772#Comment_3914772

    I have to disagree with her condemned being unreliable, as this is simply not the case if done correctly. This also makes her pretty decent even at higher level.

    If asked about a tier list, I would put her right next to Pig in mid c-tier. Both killers are a lot better than most give them credit for.

    (Sadako goes right into A+ tier if put on Gideon meat plant though)

    I absolutely agree though, that she is too weak for the amount of effort a player has to put in in regard to winning and especially when compared to either killers. She has a deceptively high strategic skill ceiling, which most people never really reach because the game tells you nothing about it.

    As I said before, playing Sadako stresses me more than playing any other killer due to how much I need to keep in mind while playing. Other killers, that are chase oriented, are a lot less stressful, because they are, no offence at all, simpler to play. Their power is more straight forward.

    Sadly, as you pointed out, these other killers also often perform better with less effort put in.

    Maybe there could be basekit features that help to make her easier to play?

    • TVs Sadako shut down are highlighted yellow?
    • TVs a survivor shut down are highlighted in a different colour?

    This would already make TV tracking a lot easier.

  • DarKStaR350z
    DarKStaR350z Member Posts: 906

    The one thing I would like to see changed is to prioritise TV placement over things like chests, as sometimes you can have areas with no TVs and others with multiple right next to each other.
    I think it’s still a thing as well where survivor coin offerings can make TV placements even worse and the same applies to Xeno tunnel entrances, Pig boxes and Singu EMPs etc

  • Blueberry
    Blueberry Member Posts: 14,459
    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3915327#Comment_3915327

    This. One of my biggest pet peeves and such an easy change. Makes it so you can't run anniversary offerings because it messes up your spawns, messes you up if others run them and forces you to run cut coins a lot to offset this bad design.