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Is 3-gen strat back in the game?

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  • HeroLives
    HeroLives Member Posts: 3,233
    edited April 28

    alright swf and a cut above the rest solo how do we feel about it being tied to an upon down condition that resets the timer?

    I think progression on gens being laxer and a down (both) should count towards a timer reset. Because I am stubborn enough to not hand you this win.

    What about the rest of you?

  • devoutartist
    devoutartist Member Posts: 174

    it's not just competitive i had 40 plus mins games with this exact situation and it's not that uncommon on both sides of the game ill say it again when you queue you acknowledge that at worst you will spent at least 1hour it's not because you don't wonna play killer more than 20 mins that you should get a free win because you don't feel like playing a long game if survivors spend that hour and they don't do anything you win by default when you play as killer and you lose as survivor there no hostage situation it doesn't exist it's just impatient ppl that think this btw not saying that's what you're saying this is more to address the ppl claiming this

    that being said at best if they wonna reduce the time limit from a hour to something lower i don't mind but you have to be carefull because it can steamroll in the future if there even a other chess merchant situation but i think the hour time limit is a good and fair one and ppl might not like to play the game a hour long but situations on both side of the coin can lead to long games even when there not ratting out or having a strong 3gens setups

    in the end of the day im fine with surrender option but it should always be at a lost if you don't wonna play the game on ether sides it dosent bother me as long as the surrender option lead to a lost

  • Prometheus1092
    Prometheus1092 Member Posts: 998

    I think anything that discourages survivors from avoiding gens is good. I main Myers and use tinkerer a lot so it makes sense for me to want people to do gens... At 70% I get notified where they are but if they avoid gens and hide then the match gets nowhere. Even as scratch mirror Myers I am seeing last 2 survivors remaining in the safest areas of the maps with no gens near them knowing myers speed isn't fast enough to catch them with scratch mirror in that position. 3 gen or not these people shouldn't be able to avoid gens like this. At this point I'm fine with gen speed being increased when 2 are left just to get them to try doing gens.

  • HeroLives
    HeroLives Member Posts: 3,233

    I’m tired of being one of the few people that will get on the gen in this situation, so we’re in agreement on the hiding at 2 gens left. Naturally people try to hide from myers as much as possible because it’s myers, literally being seen feeds you. So even if they did that idk if it would change much for you, personally as a myers main, because it’s literally how to counter you. Maybe a lot of other killers though, but idk. 🤷🏻‍♀️

    I was talking about the 3gen hostage abandon situation that’s been created from anti hide. Maybe the abandon option should go to survivors, because at least the bots will get on a gen when they’re replaced. Even then though what if the other person doesn’t abandon and waits for you to get the bot so they can get hatch and would still hide.

  • Prometheus1092
    Prometheus1092 Member Posts: 998

    If the survivors had the abandon option I don't think they would use it because if they want to abandon or leave the match they can just run out and get downed/hooked. I'd say maybe after 10 min force the survivors to abandon so the killers gets bots instead but if the abandon counts as a win or net 0 then survivors will use this as a win condition or to avoid MMR drop. And if it counts as a loss then killers will use it as a 3 gen win condition. Maybe the killer could make survivors abandon to replace them with bots so survivors get punished for not doing gens but killer still needs to kill bots so doesn't get a free win?

    I think abandon as a whole is a flop, it's just given killers the equivalent of "go next" but when killer goes next everyone does. the only way to solve the hiding issue without allowing killers to 3 gen is allow basekit aura reading after a certain time. Just have to wait for the anti hiding later on and hope that has an effect.