General Discussions
General Discussions
more proof of broken matchmaking
I dont think I would be upset if the killer didnt insult me several times as well as entirely wasting both mine and a randoms party streamers
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Easy 4k. Nothing wrong here
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I'll add your name to the reasons I hate this community 80% of the time thanks
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1) delete the names unless you want the post removed
2) the killer is toxic and proud of beating low ranks, nothing you won’t be seeing a lot these days
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idk how to edit this can you help me?
edit: nevermind I got it
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This is a killer dominated forum. I'm just joining the gang.
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Yeah, this should not happen. The Killer is an #########, but dont worry, not all are like that. I also had games were I was together with brown Rank Survivors and the Killer apologized for the Matchmaking.
Of course a Red Rank Killer should not be ranked vs green and yellow Survivors, but this is due to the new Pipping System... Nearly no Red Rank Survivors left and Killers also need people to play against.
Far from ideal.
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such is life I suppose
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Patricia basically admitted the matchmaking is broken in her News post yesterday. While they turned the "new" matchmaking back on yesterday, this time separating it by region to fix the ping issues, she stated that the rank disparity in matches would be handled in a later update.
So, yeah, for the time being, there are probably going to be a lot of matches made by the MM like that one.
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Knows it’s broken and sucks, turn it on anyway.
This must be in the BHVR employee handbook somewhere.
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That was tasteful, lmao
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To be honest, without the new Matchmaking, High Rank players would not find any lobbies.
And I guess, imbalanced games are better than no games. Even though I think reverting the Pipping System until the new Matchmaking can be implemented would have been better.
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@Aven_Fallen I see how it is hard for red ranks to find other red rank players with the current pipping system. However, shouldn't there be enough purple ranks to get matched with the reds? There are definitely enough greens. No need to match reds with yellows.
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I really dont know how the Matchmaker is working. I am in Purple Ranks and I usually get Purple Rank Killers. Sometimes I get Red Rank Killers, but those are the minority. I also got into games with Yellow or Brown Rank Killers, which is not good at all. But like I said, most of the time I see Purple Rank Survivors vs Purple Rank Killers.
Maybe the Matchmaker first cares for the Balance and if this cannot be guaranteed (because of nearly no Survivors in Red Ranks) it cares for the fastes time possible. And so some players in the queue get thrown into this Lobby.
But I really dont know, but since they re-activated the new Matchmaking I did not have more than 1 game which was imbalanced (myself, 1 Red Rank Survivor, 2 Green Rank Survivors vs Red Rank Killer).
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The revert of the matchmaking revert needs to be instantly reverted ... in other words, bring back the old matchmaking until you have a working solution. Ideally before the weekend.
I'm a very patient person when it comes to the devs screwing up, but I'm done with this game on the survivor side, my patience is done. I've gone as solo survivor with random teams of actual rank 15 survivors against rank 1 and 2 killers, it's not remotely funny anymore because there's not a single gen getting done. All I can do is hurry from hook to hook and unhook people until everyone is dead. This. Is. Not. Fun.
Or, change the priorities to match against any player worldwide but match ranks properly. It's annoying to get red ping lobby after red ping lobby, but ... I can see the ping and dodge lobbies. I cannot see the rank discrepancies and dodge if I get a rank 1 killer with actual low rank players.
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@Aven_Fallen I don't know the algorithm so I can only assume how it currently works: At first, the matchmaking tries to put people together with a similar rank. If that doesn't work, these people go to queue B. Now, in queue B everybody gets mixed together which results in red ranks playing with yellow ranks.
It should be the other way: The algorithm considers everybody in a big group of people and matches those with each other who are close in rank: red with purple, purple with green, green with yellow etc.
Writing an algorithm isn't easy. It wouldn't be shameful if the devs would hire a mathematician to write them an algorithm. They don't have to do that themselves.
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Yeah, I would assume the same on how the algorithm is working right now. And agree how it should work.
Your last point: In general I sometimes feel that the Devs would need some help with the technical side of this game. Creativitywise it is great, but on the technical side there are areas for improvement.
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@Aven_Fallen I agree. There's nothing wrong with hiring more experienced help. BHVR isn't a small indie company anymore, so they should also have some experienced employees who can help the young ones. And yes, it's not necessary for every aspect of the game. I love their arts team's work, for example.
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While I agree with you, Patricia's post basically alluded to that not happening unless they absolutely had to. Her post mentioned them sending it to "live" so they can gather the needed data. Which leads to the assumption that not enough players use the PTR. So, basically, the "live servers" are now being used to PTR the new matchmaker, allow them to gather enough data over time, make adjustments, et cetera.
So, basically, we're Beta Testing this matchmaker so they can get it to the point where, knock on wood, it eventually works as they want it to. In the meantime, our matches are going to imbalanced.
Sucks, but I guess that's what happens when the game has a declining playerbase and can't generate enough for PTR tests. Which creates a viscous cycle and possible self-fulfilling prophecy, as this mess is sure to send more players to other games.
They need to get it fixed. I don't care what new DLC they announced, and I am a huge Evil Dead fan, I'm not dropping another dime on DbD until they sort their crap out.
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List of EMEA Countries:
Albania Algeria Andorra Angola Austria Bahrain Belarus Belgium Benin Bosnia and Herzegovina Botswana Bulgaria Burkina Faso Burundi Cameroon Cape VerdeCentral African Republic Chad Comoros Croatia CyprusCzech Republic Democratic Republic of the Congo Denmark Djibouti Egypt Equatorial Guinea Eritrea Estonia Ethiopia Faroe Islands Finland FranceGabon GambiaGeorgia Germany Ghana Gibraltar Greece GuernseyGuinea Guinea-Bissau Hungary Iceland IranIraq Ireland Isle Of Man Israel Italy Ivory Coast Jersey Jordan Kenya Kuwait Latvia Lebanon Lesotho Liberia Libya Liechtenstein Lithuania Luxembourg Macedonia Madagascar Malawi Mali Malta Mauritania Mauritius Moldova Monaco Montenegro Morocco Mozambique Namibia Netherlands Niger Nigeria Norway Oman Palestine Poland Portugal Qatar Romania Rwanda San MarinoSao Tome & Principe Saudi Arabia Senegal Serbia Slovakia Slovenia Somalia South Africa Spain Sudan Swaziland Sweden Switzerland Syria Tanzania Togo Tunisia Turkey Uganda Ukraine United Arab Emirates United Kingdom Vatican City Western Sahara Yemen Zambia Zimbabwe (Rhodesia)
Yet I'm playing vs Russians while living in Europe. GGWP.
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It was just as bad if not worse when they reverted to the "old" system.
Difference is now games come more consistently for more people.
They need to fix their algorithm for sure, but I'm not gonna wair 45 mins AND get a ######### matchup.
The killer being an #########....well, that's just people being #########. Not rank or side based.
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@ShirtlessDwight just lobbydodge as before^^
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While I understand your frustration...
Is Madagascar closer to you than Moscow?
Russia is just huge but it has to be put in with a particular region.
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For most EU players, a russian player is equivalent to red ping and lobbydodge, just saying
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If even matched up with so many brown ranks as a red/purple rank, easily the worst MM system I’ve ever been in
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I know, I'm in Europe. Though I've played with some very good ping Russian players.
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I believe that Madagascar would still offer better quality connection...and less toxicity.
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they ruined the perk Decisive strike!!!!! they made it ######### useless
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Killer was probably slow and thought he was playing against a SWF and not a team of randoms, not that that warrants that sort of behavior. Killers have been much more tunnely and rude as of recently. I had someone roast me 'cause we got the Game map. Somehow he caught us all because we were "running" too much and not because the map was a killer friendly map and he was still tunneling people on a killer friendly map. The fact that we got so close to the gates being powered is an testament to his skill, honestly.
There have been like no nice games recently. Before the update, you'd run into the occasional nice and friendly killer who didn't just talk down to you or roast you. There's been an increase in DCs ('cause of course) and none of the killers I've faced showed any sort of understanding or mercy. Some even continued to tunnel off hook, which is... lovely with only three people. The game isn't MEANT to be played with just three people at the start. It should kick you to lobby if someone can't connect. Especially if 2 can't. There isn't any hope in those situations. It's just bull crap.
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