Does no one notice the biggest issue??
Why are most of the Killers base movement speed the same as the trapper?? That legit make zero sense devs……
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Is that too high or too low in your opinion…?
I'm not sure what you're getting at here.
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if you have to ask then there is no helping you..
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Aren't you wholesome.
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If you can't explain your stance, then there is no helping you…
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Because they decided that that should be the basespeed killers should have?
4,6 is the speed where you aren't oppressive but still able to win chases with m1 - I mean imagine nemesis with 4,8 or 5 constantly, he would just be a tank running through every palette and getting you quickly (at least it would be lore accurate) xD
4,4 is reserved for mostly power-only killers or ranged killers. It does still allow to m1 people, but it's a lot harder and encourages you to use your power a lot more to get hits - those killers also have a stronger chasepower in general.
Nurse is with 3,8 the only killer slower than survivors because she's literally supposed to only use her power to get hits.
People in dbd hate inconsistent speeds, so it would be horrible for bhvr to bring in more variation. I personally don't have a problem with it as long as it has clear conditions when it changes. That's what I can tell you now to that topic, but if you'd say what your problem with that is, I could maybe tell you more xD
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My stance is that the blight, ghoul, weskers and etc can traverse the maps in second why do they need the same movement speed as the trapper the nurse doesn’t have it because they have that ability.. a ghoul can bound to you put you in mend and then bound in front of you and within a sec m1 you down because they have the movement speed of a m1 not to mention they can bound thru pallets and windows so yeah having the same movement speed as a killer who’s only power is setting up traps is insane and the fact that I have explain this to you is wild.
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Too high, then.
The wild part is I actually agree with you, I think more killers should be 4.4/110% to balance out their high mobility and strong mid-loop abilities. If you'd just outright said that we could've been having a productive conversation about it, lol.
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Cause those killers still need to play a lot of tiles normally, or at least semi-normally, and reducing their movement speed would vastly increase chase times (the exception being Blight maybe, but at that point you're not reducing the strength of the killer enough at the higher end of skill to justify what it'd do to lower skill players).
Especially with a killer like Wesker that needs to pay extra attention to positioning when charging a bound and whose power is costly to use for traversal, being turned into a 4.4 m/s killer would destroy him unless his power was buffed.
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Just moving quick around the map doesn't instantly make their normal movement speed too oppressive. People where annoyed by ghoul because he'd break the palette and instantly use his power to jump after you and cut you off, but if you shave his speed down to 4,4 there's even less of a reason to play tiles and therefore just breaking and jumping after you is encouraged.
Most killer with high movement speed in their power have tiles they can't play with it, if you actually make them 4,4 you just encourage them to force situations where the survivor can't do anything, because that's the only tactic that's more or less consistent.
Only reason wesker is able to play most tiles in the game are techs with his power, otherwise he would be a lot less usable in loops, that also means you have to let him his movement speed because he'd otherwise force the palette and instatly bound you into a tree or something.
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You’re trying to use the exception as the rule.. I’ve played against 100’s of weskers and they normally are bounding you into a wall to down you and only m1 when it’s a gimme hit. They will curve the corners to get you just like blight and Billy. Maybe baby weskers might waste their time running you down but they will usually get looped trying that. Only because they aren’t good with him yet tho. But just like blight nurse, and etc once you are decent with them they do actually like all the other and then just get the cheese hits for free because they have the movement speed they do.
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Making Blight or Ghoul slower wouldn't make them less oppressive at the higher ends of play, it would just make them even worse at the lower ends where Killer players can't use their power properly. Moreover, half the problem with Nurse is that she is so reliant on her power because of her poor movement speed that they have to ensure her power is busted.
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And changing him to 4.4 m/s would nerf both new/inexperienced Weskers & tech/bug/whatever Weskers significantly. Giving survivors even more initial distance to avoid bounds would suck. And personally I don't think Wesker is a killer that needs nerfed again. After the infection changes he's pretty much gold standard of DbD fun & balance.
And if we're talking about exceptions to the rule, don't use Trapper being 4.6 m/s as an excuse to nerf other killers that you apparently don't like. Trapper's power is just fundamentally unable to keep up with the pacing of the game outside of basement scenarios, the movement speed has little to do with it. Like #########, with your logic, let's make Artist and Unknown 4.4 m/s too. Why not?
E: insitial → initial
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wow this guy is trolling
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Everyone agrees that Trapper is among the weakest killers in the game. The real question if BHVR will ever rework him to get him out of the basement. Given the pace that they have been updating older killers, I would say it’s probably never going to happen.
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Wild
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legit the ghouls already do exactly what you just said no matter what so yeah their movement speed needs to be reduced to like 4.0 they can traverse the map faster then the nurse and can put you in mend mode thru walls
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Actually a good trapper will 4k most games. The fact that your defending obvious killers who have movement speeds they shouldn't tells me you're a killer main they just wants to 4k every game no matter if the game is balanced or not.
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The trapper is fine most master trappers 3-4k most games lol
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