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Is oni dash actually strong against already injured survivors?

Neaxolotl
Neaxolotl Member Posts: 1,788

So many people are saying legion and oni is super strong, but I'm wondering if oni is actually stronger than wesker, blight, wraith or even nurse when they are against already injured survivors

I know he can move fast and has slightly better control than billy, but so is everyone I listed beside nurse

if he needs power recharge for each hooks, is he really stronger option out there?

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  • Neaxolotl
    Neaxolotl Member Posts: 1,788
    edited May 2025

    And that's the point, you're being taken down in a single hit regardless, and in my opinion his biggest strength is instant down which is negated by legion's injury, his dash is more or less better billy(which is still meh due to the amount of pallets in 2v8) and his M1 is honestly worse than normal M1, speed isn't any better than killers I've listed either, on top of it "chain down" is also not as strong in 2v8 because everyone has unbreakable and there is too much survivors who can easily pick slugged one up

    He'd be a 2nd most busted killer in 1v4, but here we are talking about 2v8 with infinite pallet and 8x unbreakable with 24 hooks to do

    Not to mention the fact you are still have to walk around to find blood orbs so it's not as fast as it looks, not like survivors are everywhere while bleeding repeatedly

    Legion definitely isn't busted killer in any way in 1v4, but he is probably a strongest killer in 2v8, thinking it same way as 1v4 balance is strange

  • Neaxolotl
    Neaxolotl Member Posts: 1,788
    edited May 2025

    What I'm saying here is that, he is an easy to hit killer relative to other instadowns, and I think his hit isn't actually easier to land than other non-instadown killers, they are balanced around with skipping a health state in mind

    so if we apply the same logic of "he is stronger because he is balanced with power cooldown in mind", I think "he is weaker because he is balanced with skipping health state in mind" must be true too

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  • francesinhalover
    francesinhalover Member Posts: 376

    Average mmr Legion is pretty strong lol and it gets worse depending on map.

    Its easier to win vs clown/doctor than Legion.

  • francesinhalover
    francesinhalover Member Posts: 376

    First of all enemies arent always injured even with a Legion and oni One shots.

    Second oni is a lot easier to play than Billy blight and more successfull. Even a noob like me can Dodge billys and blights but i aint dodging a oni.

    Third his power can hit Multiple people with One strike.

    Forth his power tells him where injured survinvers are

    Fifth his power hás a generous hitbox and can get cheap hits that others killers cant get and those are One shots.

  • Abbzy
    Abbzy Member Posts: 3,306

    To be honest onis power is one of the strongest powers in the game maybe strongest if he could use it more.

    Legion by himself is weak but with combination like oni or some other strong killer that can he fast hits he is quite strong teammate.

  • crogers271
    crogers271 Member Posts: 3,470

    He's got more options than the killers you listed.

    If the survivors heal, he pops power.

    If the survivors don't heal, he can traverse the map really quickly. 8 injured survivors against two M1 killers should go the killers way unless they over commit to a chase.

    Legion is an annoying killer to face, but if the survivors have a few medics and/or spread out they weaken his strength, meaning they can deal with his partner. With Oni and Legion the options significantly diminish.

  • PetTheDoggo
    PetTheDoggo Member Posts: 2,382

    To be honest, I think Wraith is better with Oni anyway…

    Wraith can also injure survivors for you, but main thing it's easy for Wraith to follow you and pick up survivors you leave behind.


    Oni definetly feels strong, but we usually get to escape anyway. It doesn't really matter if he manages to down several survivors, if he can't pick them up.
    Infinite unbreakable is also kinda big deal against him.

  • danielmaster87
    danielmaster87 Member Posts: 10,719

    I get what you mean. I mean, you might as well be playing Blight at that point, probably giving you better control (because Oni's camera during dash attack sucks). As long as he's hard to play on console, I really don't like Oni, and wouldn't shed a tear if he was nerfed. But you're assessment of his weakness, or rather his value wastage, is correct.