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Hatch Offerings SHOULD NOT BE SECRET
Just curious, since the overwhelming consensus in PTB Feedback was that Hatch Offerings being secret was intensely unhealthy for all players (letting a Survivor who offers it simply rat the whole match with a Key, and letting a Killer who offers it beeline to its location before it even spawns, offering nobody else a chance to play for it on either side)… why on earth did secret Hatch Offerings go live? There is literally no benefit to them being secret, this just gives an unfair advantage to whoever makes the Offering with no counterplay.
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Agree, agree, agree.
This singular change was so stupidly broken and problematic, it hurts.
All that was needed to do, was adding map offerings into the Secret pile. That was it.
This? This WILL be an issue. And soon.
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oops double post
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This is a terrible chsnge, yikes. A killer can effectively guarantee they'll close hatch the moment it spawns, or survivors can guarantee they'll escape the moment it spawns. At least with it being public knowledge, it's a race to the Hatch location.
NGL, I'd just prefer the offering be removed entirely.
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I think there are some Tome challenges (that are already wildly tedious and difficult) that would be borderline impossible to complete without the offering: unlocking Hatch, and escaping through Hatch with a Key, some of these challenges require you to do it multiple times. It's already really hard, it already takes forever, it would take exponentially longer. With Hatch Offerings as they were before, I'd see a Survivor who brought one ratting every now and again? More often than not, though, it wouldn't even be the person that brought the Offering that got Hatch, and I mostly play solo q. And sometimes a Killer would bring one only to have it blow up in their face because the Survivor they slugged had Unbreakable or Soul Guard, or something else crazy would happen.
Hatch Offerings existing can make for some bonkers nonsense happening and help with some unfortunately extraordinarily difficult Tome Challenges. They should not under any circumstances be secret, though.
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Upvoting and commenting for further reach. In my opinion, none of the offerings that were set to secret should remain secret - yes, even map offerings, since they're only 20% now and thus have considerably less sway.
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I agree. Hatch offerings being secret is unhealthy for both sides imo
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Hatch offerings used by a survivor should be visible to all other survivors. That's because SWFs have that knowledge for free.
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I liked hatch offerings being bait. if the killer forgot about it then I'd be the fool but more often than not they think they know exactly where I am
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I am surprised at the people voting the original post down (who are they and where are their thoughts on this?!).
There's no reason for these to be secret, all it does is encourage rat behavior to the benefit of the rat and to the detriment of both the killer and the rat's teammates. Ostensibly, this is the kind of gameplay the newly implemented AFK crows are supposed to discourage, so why add something in the same patch to encourage it…?
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People can have different opinion. It does not need to make sense to you. Still I do agree that there is no point of these offerings to be secret but others can disagree if they so want.
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Isn't the point of discussion forums to have a discussion in which we attempt to make sense to each other?
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People are welcome to have different opinions. I've just yet to see a single person voice any support of Hatch Offerings being secret, and this was something I brought up in PTB Feedback. Comments were universally, "Why on earth would they do this? This is a terrible idea, here are even more reasons why." If someone thinks, for some reason, that this is beneficial in some way, I'm at least open to having my mind changed if they have a well thought-out justification.
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I agree I thought most people were fine with map offerings being secret and everything else being deemed "secret" was not a welcome change. Guess we didn't have enough people complain about it I guess.
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Well some people don't want to share their point of view just vote for it. I myself quite often don't write in every topic here just vote if I am against or not and leave it on that. Most likely their opinion could boil down to it being just that they like that they are hidden. Its not much of a thing to talk about.
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Map offerings being secret I still support, they're fairer now and it lets you privately express a preference for a map without judgement.
But making every gameplay offering secret is too much. Stuff like luck offerings, coins or oaks I think I understand a bit more, the more Secret offerings exist the better the value of the Secret modifier is, but I see no need for the other stuff to stay Secret, especially Hatch offerings which were kept in check by being public knowledge.
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We're actively talking about it right now, so this doesn't make sense to me at all.
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I am not against them not being secret I don't want them to be secret. I was saying those that are against it are not most likely interested to share their opinion.
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