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All Behavior does is reward tunneling…
like, is there any reason the killer shouldn’t just tunnel out the first person he sees? I mean it’s not like Survivors can just end themselves on hook anymore, nor can they do anything about being slugged unless EVERY SINGLE player is downed.
Honestly if killers wanna tunnel and slug so be it just remove the DC penalty. Why would any survivor wanna stay in a game where they’re immediately being tunneled/farmed out the game or slugged on the ground for 5 minutes? Now that we have bots there’s NO REASON for the DC penalty anymore.
Here’s a thought, how bout a penalty for killers who immediately tunnel one survivor out? Force killers to rotate hooks. Like an invisible timer for 2:30 minutes where they can’t just immediately mow down a single player.
No? Just penalize players for hiding longer than 15 seconds? Ok got it.
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The DC penalty needs to stay. We can’t have people leaving the game just for any reason. This would get abused. That’s why it was created in the first place. You’re also hurting queue times bouncing in and out of matches.
Tunneling isn’t always effective. That’s 3 other people working on gens for free. The time that person is dead and out of the game your down to the last gen. Unless your nurse, ghoul, or blight.
Don't worry though - the Anti Tunnel system will be here before you know it. I’ll be looking forward to it personally.6 -
Honestly if killers wanna tunnel and slug so be it just remove the DC penalty.
So Killers wanting to apply pressure & win should let Survivors DC for free because such tactics are not Survivor Approved™?
Ok. So if Survivors keep returning to the same generator after a Killer kicks it; The Killer should be able to DC for free, right?
After all, 'Tunneling' is literally just trying to kill a Survivor (You know; THE KILLER'S MAIN GOAL) quickly.Oh, but here comes the 'It'S dIfFeReNt!' squawking from Survivors. That Killers should not be able to play effectively because their goal involves removing someone from the game. And that's mean. 😢
All Killers are required to play off-meta when demanded, and play inefficiently as possible, so Survivors get the Survivor Approved™ amount of Fun from every match!Oh, but if Killers say 'Stop slamming gens' or 'Play off-meta' to Survivors? The reply is 'Lol. No. Why should I care about your fun?' and 'Git gud'.
Here’s a thought, how bout a penalty for killers who immediately tunnel one survivor out?
AHAHAHAHAHAHA! No.
Force killers to rotate hooks.
Force them to lose, you mean. Rotating hooks usually results in a 3-4 man escape.
Like an invisible timer for 2:30 minutes where they can’t just immediately mow down a single player.
Two and a half minutes of immunity to being re-hooked?
I'm sure the purely pure-good-super-special-awesome-amazing-never-bad Survivors will never abuse that!-5 -
So basically only the killer is allowed to have fun.
Sorry you tunnel me (or someone else) into oblivion the first minute of the match or leave me on the ground for five minutes to get a 4K I’m leaving.
It’s ok for the survivor to have the most miserable time?Hard Tunneling (especially in the first minute) is so devastating to a match or DBD. To lose a crucial player so early on practically makes the match unwinnable especially so considering the killer. Look end game have at it, it’s a free for all but the first minute?
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”Sorry you tunnel me (or someone else) into oblivion the first minute of the match”
You’re not dying in 1 minute and back to lobby. You’d have to be standing still letting the killer down you and hook you.
If you’re getting tunneled so aggressively, you need to throw on some counter perks. While they won’t make you invulnerable, they help. Can’t tell you how many times DS has saved me. No offense but killers often go after the “Weak Link 🔗” when it comes to chases.
If this is you, you will need not only an anti tunnel perk, but a chase build.1 -
Don't worry though - the Anti Tunnel system will be here before you know it. I’ll be looking forward to it personally.
Same, my friend. Same.
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tunneling can be a dangerous idea and is certainlly not rewarded . There are many perks that keep it in check and can make it very deteimental . Babysitter , borrowed time , DS , DH , off the record , blood rush , ressurgence , reasurance and the main of all shoulder the burden. Before you say the game should not be balanced around perks all i have to tell you is that it always has been balanced around perks so that's not changing . The best play on someone getting tunneled is to leave them on hook for as long as possible and do gens . This should let many gens get done if your team is efficient .
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I'm kinda shocked how often I see killer mains defending tunneling. I play both and I never intentionally tunnel. The only way I'll go after my most recently hooked survivor is if they're fully healed and back in the game, and I just happened upon them again. If they're still disorientated and trying to get away to heal I just turn around and go the other way. It's really not that hard to not be cruel. What's the point of winning if there's zero challemge and engagement anyway?
I think a lot of killer mains need to spend time as a soloq survivor and see how crappy it feels to have almost every match involve tunneling and slugging.
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I feel ya.
If I come back to the area to check around and you are STILL healing at the hook. 🪝
Welp. I will down you. Not gonna waste time on the healthy person when the injured guy is right there. More pressure for me which means I can breathe a little bit more.
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I’ve played killer for a long time, and have gotten to the point where I face good survivors pretty regularly. Tunneling typically does not work well for me against survivors who know what they’re doing. I might get the one tunnel kill, and sometimes not even that if survivors are coordinated and do a good job of body blocking/taking hits to help protect their teammate.
My point is that tunneling really only works if survivor teams let it work. Even in solo queue, if survivors stay on gens when it’s clear the killer is trying to tunnel someone out, it almost never results in a killer win (3K or 4K).
When I play survivor, I occasionally see killers tunnel, but it’s probably 1 in 5 matches at the most. Definitely not the epidemic that some are portraying it to be. Bad/brand new/useless teammates in solo queue due to non-functional matchmaking is a FAR bigger problem than tunneling.-4 -
If you being found in a match ruins your fun; Why are you playing a PvP game?
Sorry you tunnel me (or someone else) into oblivion the first minute of the match or leave me on the ground for five minutes to get a 4K I’m leaving.
So you're admitting you ragequit because you were losing. Cool. Hope I never run into you when I play Survivor.
It’s ok for the survivor to have the most miserable time?
Again; The Killer's goal is to kill you. To win. It's not on him to babysit you and ask 'Did you have fun?' before he kills you.
If you find being killed in a PvP game unfun; Stop playing PvP games. Because your opponents goal IS TO KILL YOU.Hard Tunneling (especially in the first minute) is so devastating to a match or DBD.
If you get 'Hard tunneled' in under a minute; That's a skill issue.
Weird how Survivors are fine with popping 3 gens before the Killer gets 1 hook, though.
When Killers comment on gen speeds, they get told to suck it up. 🤷♂️To lose a crucial player so early on practically makes the match unwinnable especially so considering the killer.
That's…Part of the Killer's goal?
You're acking like any Killer that kills you before Endgame is being toxic. JFC.Look end game have at it, it’s a free for all but the first minute?
Oh, so Killers are only allowed to kill after 5 gens pop?
When all Survivors have left is opening one or two Exit gates?
And you think that's reasonable to expect?Talk about entitlement.
"The killer can only kill in the endgame!" Yeah, no. Depending on the Killer, and on Survivor perks, that can be outright impossible if all 4 Survivors are still alive.May as well just say "Hey devs! Remove all death hooks until we do 5 gens, so we get the Survivor Mandated® Fun Time™"
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The amount of times I return to Survivors healing under a hook, or body-blocking with basekit B T, and then they screech that I 'tunneled' is why I hate this term.
It's like some Survivors think they should be functionally immortal & the Killer should have to eat a body-block without retaliating.
BT was created so Survivors would get away IF the Killer tunneled.
But within 24 hours; Survivors were body-blocking with it, then malding that they were still being tunneled. Like, ######### do they want? And what did they expect would happen when they grind against the Killer?3 -
Oh I know. I’ve seen it all, from every angle, both as killer and survivor.
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You DO realize that killers have rules too, yeah? Survivors aren't the only ones to have a rule book. Your rule is "No Tunneling"
Our rule is "No Gen Rushing"
I can't tell you the amount of times I've run into a match, and have been absolutely GEN SLAMMED by multiple survivors running toolboxes and pairing up on gens before I can even get a hook in.
In short, if you haven't noticed already, if you're going to break rules, I don't see why we can't break them either.
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"Tunneling does not work well" said no one ever, honestly any killer with 2 braincells can win majority of his games on autopilot right now, run 4 slowdown and tunnel the weakest link you will win 70% of your games by default
some of us are saying the same thing for 3 years straight now it's getting boring… after 6.1 update the survivor gameplay loop is kinda lame, you die most of the time and even if you manage to escape it's mostly against bad killers or killers playing too nice(aka spreading hooks)
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I understand this but at the same time WHAT ELSE are survivors supposed to do? This game doesn’t have a lot of side objectives and the main objective is to do gens.
Now I know your counterpoint is “well killers are supposed to kill” and I get that but, do you really need to immediately tunnel that one guy out when there’s still 5-4 gens left and the match just started 45 seconds ago?
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Healing under the hook drives me mad, whether I'm killer or surv. But when I play surv and I try to run somehwere else to heal safely my teammate just leaves me and now I'm injured and will probably immediately get downed again. There's no winning on soloq unless you use all your perk slots trying to counter other teammates bad behavior.
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If they don’t have We’ll make it or something fast. Bye ✌🏼
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