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As a competitive player who hates losing, I'm getting tired of queuing killer
Is it just me that feels this way?
I know for a fact I'm in top MMR on my favorite killer Demogorgon, I know this because I just yesterday beat the current Plague world record holders 4 stack. I also know this because I frequently am going up against players who are addicted to the game enough to put "comp" in their profile. I know that doesnt actually mean anything but if you're committed enough to dbd to put comp in your profile then you probably take the game more seriously than most.
I've played 4 games today and genuinely cant bring myself to play dbd anymore, one game was a 9 minute wash by an 8.7k polish "comp" streamer. I won the 2nd, and then lost twice in a row to the same 3 stack. The first match vs the 3 stack they told me in endgame chat that I simply spread myself too thin and didn't focus on tunneling anyone out, they just did gens and demolished me as they're all running insane builds and playing efficiently. Second match I saw how trying to spread myself thin worked out and I knew they were strong players so I decided to try and tunnel. Gens absolutely flew, I got my tunnel down but they were under a pallet and 2 survivors were hovering around to get save, I literally couldnt do anything but accept that I couldnt get this survivor, I had spent the whole match focusing on this person and the team had waited almost 80 seconds to unhook + long chase times and then going for saves. I simply got outplayed no matter what I did.
I have 1300 hours and acknowledge im not a perfect player, and I like the feeling of learning and improving, which is why I can never settle for a main. However I'm getting to a point now where I'm getting stacks of "comp" players streaming themselves on twitch running DS, DH, Unbreakable, Soul Guard, Shoulder the Burden, Babysitter, insta heal medkits, and extra hit medkits. All the trimmings, it just gets draining to go to Badham and have to deal with that while playing a mid tier killer and getting hit with crouch techs and missing out on hits.
I want to play my favourite killer, and I can accept that I'm going to have bad games. But I'm getting to the point now where I just dread playing Demogorgon or any other lower tier character for that matter because I'm either going to have to sweat my ass off to win or I get a stack of crazy players who have more hours on DBD than I have on Steam in general.
Do I just have unrealistic hopes for my capabilities? Is it simply a skill issue that I can't beat the stacks who come with all of those things? I dont know, what I do know is its draining. I absolutely love to win, I despise losing with a passion, but I can accept losing when I feel like its my fault. I find it hard to accept a loss when I struggle to see what I really did wrong.
Anybody have any similar thoughts or advice for me on how to handle this? I don't need people telling me that I can't win every game because thats not balance and yada yada, I know that much. It just gets to the point now where I feel like I should be bringing everything possible into a match to give myself the best chance of winning, but then the fun starts to slowly disappear.
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Decided I was overreacting and went to play 1 more match but on another favourite of mine, Pig. Got 1 kill but went against 2 1v1 ladder enjoyers with over 8k hours on profile. It's not fun anymore, genuinely. I'm so bored of being miserable going against 20,000 hr + lobbies. Might just have to stick to watching creators play killer at this point and enjoy killer through them.
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Genuinely, if you are going and taking matches against god squads, why do you WANT to play against normal players?
All you'd be doing is punching down and giving them the exact same experience, perhaps worse.
I was in a similar situation, but eventually, I decided I wanted to push as high as I could. I went and played comp, tournaments and whatever. Ultimately, I ended up getting bored because pubs was just a slaughter.
Basically, decide what you want. Is winning the end-all-be-all like it was for me? Or would you rather just be goofy and have fun? Choice is up to you, but its simple either way. Wanna win? Keep pushing. Wanna be goofy? Stop taking it so seriously.
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Or, you could be buns at the game like me and try to win and fail!
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I suppose there is always that option, true.
Find enjoyment where you can. Rule for life.
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Thats all an extremely fair point, its easy to forget that if I dont come across those types of squads I typically stomp, I have an 80% kill rate on Demo and 83% on Pig. And so I'd just be providing the same experience I'm currently having right now to 4 solo queue players. Maybe I should look into trying to learn how to better play against these competitive squads so I feel like I'm learning again instead of simply being hopeless. I guess I dont really know where I'd start though.
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You can try to record your games.
Or just focus on one area of improvement. For example, I used to focus heavily on knowing what each Survivor was likely up to via game sense alone. Being able to keep track of every player gives you a lot to work with
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I've been trying to do the whole gamesense thing for a while and I feel like I have it pretty well figured out, I feel like I can identify what the survivors are up to, but dont really know what I can do to prevent it. Maybe I need to do some research on top players and compare it to my gameplay to see the mistakes im making better. I'm sure I'm making them because I'm by no means a "comp" player, its just hard to identify in a game where I feel like I played decently well but simply got hammered. I think that might be where recording becomes a benefit, idk
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As a "competitive player who hates losing", is it really a surprise that the game is giving you opponents who are also competitive and hate losing? Probably one of those rare times SBMM seems to be working
Edit: spelling
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- Exactly, in this case the MMR works very well (from what he wrote)... a very good killer faces very good survivors
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The best advice I can give is to train yourself to accept loss… which is not easy for a lot of people.
To put it bluntly, you mention that you have an 80%+ Killrate on Killers that are considered conventionally weaker, which is fundamentally actually really good, but at the same time, you also have to accept that there is still that 20%, that 20% that you will lose.
On the other end of things, the people you face against lose 80% of the time, they are forced to accept loss because you wont, and if things were flipped you would fundamentally be miserable from losing 80% of the time. None of this is to say that "winning is wrong" but moreso that there are two sides to every coin here, things could be worse.
From this, what do you do?
Well, there are many steps you can take.
- Record your games and taking notes on ways you could improve are good ways of analyzing your own gameplay to make improvements.
- Watch content creators, take notes, and/or focus on their micro/macro play to learn from others. Sometimes your perspective can be limited but seeing the view of others can actually help you improve.
- Compete against other players; Competitive DBD (while mocked) is fairly welcoming to newcomers, from it you can learn a lot about micro/macro game and face off against experienced players who can put your skills to the test.
- Apply limitations to yourself to test your limits can also be an amazing way of pushing your gameplay forwards. Back in the day I use to do perkless winstreaks on different Killers and it significantly improved my macro gameplay.
As for improving your mindset.
- It's important to just accept that losing is going to happen, but turn it into a learning opportunity.
- Exchange negative thoughts for more positive ideas or actions.
- Take breaks if needed, nobody is forcing you to play DBD, and sometimes it's just best to walk away from the game.
I hope this helps.
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Sounds like you need to take a break from this game. If you try to take this game as a competitive challenge, you're gonna burn your self out. This game has too much RNG for it to be competitive
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I guess when xeno came out i played it well enough to reach the softcap and beyond and then you really start to see all the flaws of your favorite killer. For example how xeno is decent against solo que but made to be obliterated by swf groups that can just make "safe zones" that the whole team will run to and rebuild. I dread playing xeno now and force myself to anyway. Sometimes i get lucky with a solo que group still.
I also still enjoy queing as killer by doing a "round robin" thing where you play each killer on the list until you win a round then switch to the next one
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Do I just have unrealistic hopes for my capabilities? Is it simply a skill issue that I can't beat the stacks who come with all of those things?Yes, its unrealistic. People have put in ten times the amount of hours that you have into the game.
Additionally, the game has lots of random elements and variability. It is not, by design, a game that is meant to be won every time.
Finally, having an 80% win rate at a multiplayer game is already asking a lot.
I find it hard to accept a loss when I struggle to see what I really did wrong.That's part of the game. You (and the survivors) are playing with limited info. Some people like that they don't know for sure what is going on the other side of the map, some people hate it. Some don't like the guessing game of trying to bring the right perks without being certain what you are going to hit, others like the variety and surprise.
But the forum is thrilled with people who love to analyze matches if you post some.
It just gets to the point now where I feel like I should be bringing everything possible into a match to give myself the best chance of winning, but then the fun starts to slowly disappear.That's the DbD trap.
The game allows you to be sweaty. Bring the best addons and perks. As a killer you can also tunnel and slug for the 4k which will vault you up the MMR brackets and suddenly those strategies get hard countered. Survivors can boost themselves too through SWFing, but that's not quite as simple to arrange as what the killer has.
But if that's the way you primarily play, its hard to play any other.
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Not to mention WGLF giving everyone Endurance.
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That's a natural part of progression. If anyone has played fighting games, they'll know the feeling. You finally figure out what works against opponents in a certain bracket, you move up a bracket, and you start losing again.
DbD's matchmaking will trick you into thinking you've figured it out. That's a design decision by the devs. They want killers to feel powerful, so you're consistently going to hover around their desired kill rate regardless of your MMR.
At a high level, killer is often more about execution of the basics. You're probably not going to show a survivor something they haven't seen before when they have thousands of hours and years of experience. Consistently hitting your power will usually get you a 2k at worst. It's half the battle.
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