Springtrap creates toxic gameplay

Springtrap is literally Huntress with extra steps and can teleport. If you can't play against a Huntress that can only throw a hatchet every 7ish seconds, that says something.

A lot of what people are frustrated about with Springtrap comes back to him using his add on, Bonnie's guitar strings. It grants the killer the ability to see and to teleport to the gen with the most progress instead of having to hoof it across the map. It's such a powerful add on for him, a player would practically be throwing not to use it. That being said, I think it's reasonable to assume that this add on will eventually get nerfed to some extent later on down the line.

I don't mind playing against Springtrap, even if I get sacrificed I at least have control of my character when I'm hit, I hate The Ghoul far more than this killer could even hope to compare, whoever thought that hit stun was a great idea needs to play against it all day until it sinks in that it's awful to play against.

Sheerly by the numbers he's just not a problem. He's 17th in kill rate despite being number 1 in pick rate by a mile. Survivors just don't like learning to deal with new killers. It's hysterics every time.

could've easily fixed by 3 things

giving him a teleport cooldown like any other killer IN THE GAME (possibly slowing him down when he uses it near a hooked survivor)

deny access of the door and 5 secounds after unhook.

update the spawn location to either have the hooks be spread out from the door or have the doors be spread apart from the hooks.

and yet they thought this was okay to be released, im glad no one is yet consistently abusing this tunnel-magnifium, but eventually it will be abused and he has to get nerfed for it, i dont want him to be nerfed because hes not kaneki and i rather have him then kaneki easily kill us every game, but if wesker deserved to get nerfed due to tunneling, he should too.

cant wait for the "skill issue" gaslighting comming, as if bhvr isnt currently pushing against boring gameplay loops, xdd

sincerely, survivor main with 1500hrs of ingame match experince.

skill issue use headphones

The vast majority of new players aren't sticking around anyways. The amount of hours and money that you need to spend to unlock all the perks alone is staggering. Some of them will stick around until they hit the MMR wall and start getting decent/good survivors.

It doesn't even need a nerf, it needs a rarity change, it should be a purple or an iri.

People could just go next against Ghoul and can’t against Springtrap.

I’d rather play against Ghoul than Springtrap tbh, and a lot of people’s complaints about Ghoul are worse against this killer.

Ghoul has a terror radius this killer seems to be silent most of the time, people complained about Ghoul getting one health state over loops where this killer can down over most loops, can deny window and pallet vaults, gets a grab that counter Dead Hard and other Endurance, teleports like a quicker Alien with no cooldown or counter, and can instadown like Dredge grab but more consistently.

Not saying Ghoul is easy but I’m honestly finding this killer much more frustrating to play against.

They usually do this, the killer will be op until the next bug fix, then he gets nerfed (sometimes beyond use, vecna for example) I don't care for it unless there's still more after the next bug fix

With Springtrap you can spot him with cameras at any point to reveal his location to the team and you have nearly as much cross-map access as he does. The issue is one of bugs, no one wants the camera noise bug going on forever and Sprintrap being invisible for his first second out of the doors is off-putting (even if the door opening and the sound effects should be plenty to identify what's happening).

To be honest I don't like this update, he is in fact OP but that isn't the only issue. My friend and I have played against him so many times, every night we get at least 5-7 matches with him. Which would be fine if there was a chance at survival. Literally in all the matches we've played, we've only made it out 3 times. That's 3 out of roughly 20ish matches with Springtrap.

What's worse is YES this update has promoted more toxicity in games. The amount of times we have been slugged or tunneled is extremely ridiculous. Now killers are saying "This is how you play the game". I am survivor main but I'll tell you when I DO play killer, I don't need to tunnel, camp, or slug to get a 4k. Nor do I need to do it for a mori. Let's take this in parts shall we?

The doors itself promote toxic game play. The camping while in door is as sucky as Wraith camping inviso at hook and Xeno camping inside the their things. Let the bar go up for ALL camping forms would help a bit because that sucks they can hide and camp and be literally right next to you but you still can't get yourself off hook? So Springtrap camping is one but it also gives survivors some toxicity as well. Literally had a match where they were doing what I was afraid they'd do. Mess around with the door and deplete the battery rather than getting on a gen. Hid after that, then did the door again. It was a repeat of them not touching a gen and not getting a crow because they just hid playing with the door.

Next point, the crows are a huge issue. If I'm running around the map to find totems for my challenge, why am I getting a crow? If the killer finds me that's on me because I'm leaving scratch marks. Running shouldn't count to get a crow??? That's absolutely stupid. Let's add to that, you get a crow after 10 seconds (such a short time) when SOMETIMES you start the game and the killer is near you and won't GO AWAY. Sorry I don't wanna be found first because my experience lately when I'm found first, I get tunneled and killed off first. Also doesn't help when you're hiding because there's a toxic teammate who wants to live by leading the killer directly to you. So you try to hide only for a crow to give you away.

Next point. The tunneling increase is RIDICULOUSLY HIGHER! They tunnel more because guess what? They now have that WONDERFUL ability to mori with two survivors left. I think that was not needed to be adjusted. Because they let us bleed out for that final mori anyway. At that point making someone bleed out to get a mori while someone struggles on hook is taking the game hostage for a mori. So why did killers get rewarded for that toxic gameplay with a "well now while one is in struggle phase you can mori"? That is beyond stupid. It only adds to their desire to slug because 3 survivors left? Slug three, hook two and mori the last when on the ground. It's especially sucky if they the person they choose to mori has O HOOKS so they leave them down and hook the one that's on death hook and the other that's on second hook granting them the ability of an EASY 4k for a mori on a survivor without having to work for it.

Killers are so lazy in their game play. Matches are rarely fun anymore. I'm sticking the game out for my friend otherwise I'd quit playing.

Third point? I don't know, I lost count but let's talk about being tunneled at the start of the game. Killer finds me, hooks me, I get rescued, they hit my friend but go right back to me, hooks me again. I don't get to heal or touch a gen. She saves me again, I get tunneled to be put back on hook. I didn't go next yet I get punished for my bad luck of the killer finding me first and hooking me back to back to back because they can't play the game fairly.

As I said, I'm a survivor main but I can still get a 4k on all the toxic killers without needing to tunnel, slug or camp. So you do the math. I think a lot of things need fixing, from Springtrap to the crows / go next prevention. But also fix the map offers? What is the point in the map offerings if it takes 5 offers to try and get the map I want? At that point the map offerings are useless. If you're gonna keep those which I'd prefer, at least make it stackable again because taking out the stack is kind stupid. IDK why the map offerings were "fixed" in the first place. Don't fix what's not broken.

And maybe give us back our 4% because with the toxic game play becoming WORSE we deserve to keep the things killers complain about rather than them being favored. I wanna point out, without people playing survivors, killers won't get matches. Who wants to play against tunnelers, campers and sluggers? You need 5 people to play the game, I would think you'd want people to want to keep playing survivor so that killers don't have an hour queue just to get into a match, just saying because of right now, there is nothing balanced about the game with this latest update. I appreciate the attempt to thwart the toxic survivors who like to hide at the end of the map all game and not touch a gen, but there has to be another way to deal with that than to drop the crow time to 10 seconds.

I know this was mainly about Springtrap but I had to get the rest of that out there.

If he hides in doors near hook then anticamp kicks in, different story is if he used doors to get across the map and camp there to get back to hook but if he does then teosurvivors will know they cant heal under hook because he comes back.

never thought about what it be like as a new killer. I didn’t have a console years ago and found dbd mobile when there was mostly only original killers as well Bubba & Pig. I cannot imagine joining with this many killers especially facing a Springtrap as a new player 😭. When you’re trying to learn the game and that. I’d probably hide the whole match back when I didn’t know that was bad 😭

If you get your MMR high enough as killer soemtimes you do need to slug soemtimes. Some killers also have abilities or powers than can lead to a snowball even with 1 gen left.

Springtrap is built for tunneling effortlessly

I just played a Springtrap who did a little hit and run so we were injured and pretty much puppy guarded the hooks the entire time.