Good job on the anti-camp

I would say the anti camp feature is a failure because of the lack of information it gives to your team mates, so it leads to such bad plays where your team (assuming you're solo) take hits or hook trade unnecessarily. I would hope in the future they implement a feature that shows the anti camp meter to your team mates so they know whether or not they should save.

You just described an entirely different scenario as if it was a counter argument.

basement bubba/basement chest protector bubba

a bubba would camp basement with insidious with or without a survivor in it (usually with a survivor in it)

i don't see bubbas anymore tho

That doesn't make it better, it actively makes it worse.

If the mechanic is active and it's still countered by checks notes FACE camping, then it's still really not doing what it's supposed to.

ETA: I'll elaborate here... What, exactly, is choosing to stay on hook doing that not having AFC at all accomplishes? Both with it without it are "wasting the killers time" because they're standing at the hook, in this case hitting someone repeatedly.

And if jumping off hook into face camping is the wrong play then this mechanic is not just bad at combatting face camping, it's making the situation actively worse for survivors who choose to jump off here.

This is why I say this mechanic is useless:

Others are likely to show up anyway and provide that free pressure and maybe even a down. It's not preventing that. You're basically still trading.

It's not preventing the killer from hitting on hook, because it's better to stay on hook.

So, to summarize:

If the killer backs away 5 feet, the mechanic does nothing because it's "not anti camp, is anti FACE camp".

If the killer doesn't back away and actually face camps, the best play is to pretend like the mechanic doesn't exist and you'll get the same result.

If the killer face camps and your teammate shows up, then it's also like the mechanic doesn't exist, since the killer has already gotten pressure off of gens, and will probably get the trade.

And on top of that, every killer in the game can stand 11m from hook and still beat a survivor who shows up for rescue to the hook, which is the exact same scenario as the one above.

So it's not anti camp, and it's not anti FACE camp. It's apparently so niche a problem were "solving" that, regardless of how the killer or other players play, the best play for the hooked survivor to stay on the hook.

So yeah. Astonishing levels of value.

I don't see many issues now that AFC is a thing with bubbas. He can't just literally sit there and press a button and get guaranteed downs. He HAS to be on the move and chase someone, and unless all the survivors are surgically attached to each other, him getting them all down won't be easy for him. It makes a huge difference that he actually has to be on the move with AFC being a thing. Have someone bait his chain saw. If he gives chase, the other person unhooks for free. If he immediately goes back for the hook, his chainsaw will run out before he can down anyone and you can go for a quick standard save attempt.

This works more as antiface camp, camping is strategy that very few players want to play and is not rewarding because survivors have now 70 second per hook stage. Anticamps work its 16 meter radius I think more the killer is closer bar fills faster for free unhook even on stage two, problem can cause certain teamwork when survivor enters this radius and doesnt matter if he is healty or downed the meter stops. Some killers are uneffected like the ones with high mobility they can be there in few seconds back across the map. Some killers look proxycamping but they either dont have mobility when survivor teammate unhooks you too fast still when killer isnt far or they dont have info where are other survivor this can be problematic for the killer they cant make more preasure on survivors and then they return back to the hook.

I actually tested this back in the day with old Bubba. Can't remember the exact loadout, but I remember doing corrupt to have slowdown that didnt require any action from me, along with NOED at the end. I might be able to find a picture later. I actually got a surprising amount of 4ks from facecamping with the saw up.

A forcefield lmao No, the anti camp meter should just progress quicker and should keep progressing not only even if the Killer is chasing someone else around the hook, but also the range should be extended heavily and depend on the proximity. Okay, the Killer wants to stand 16m away? Well now that Surv will unhook themselves since the entity is displeased with the power role playing like a turd.

This isn't 2016 where Survs can just gen rush the camping Killer, there is a plethora of gen perks for Killers to halt progress and they don't even need to camp, like lets be forreal. Almost all new killers have insane map traversal to where they're back at the hook 5 seconds after an unhook when they were just on the other side of these small maps.

Gotta at least get the legendary quote right. "I think we did-uh pretty good.. JOB so far.."

I think this would be less of a problem if it wasn't for the fact this terrible killer will in fact be rewarded for waiting for the unhook and tunnelling you out, which I assume is what they did if anyone even got the unhook.

Honestly what I am really waiting for is some kind of base kit anti tunnel to make this insidious 'strategy' non-viable or at least not as worthwhile

Problem with AFC is that literally no one asked for it, and no one cares about it. It was a complete waste of time.

Dont worry, people wont get tired to point out it should be Anti-FACE-camping. It is not supposed to be useful. It only works against something which barely happened anyway and it did not really change anything since the Killer can still camp close enough to be back at the Hook in no time.

But you got a cool bar which does not fill up while you see the Killer camping.

I already pointed that out... they still insisted it was useless.