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How do you guys practice looping?

There are videos showcasing how to run every loop but it's hard to retain all that information. Also I am asking from primarily a survivor perspective right now. Some tiles I have no clue what to do with and want to hammer that part of my game down

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  • Mr_K
    Mr_K Member Posts: 10,342

    Yes, you can learn the tiles and how you should run them outside a match. But the only way to learn how to loop is when you are being chased.

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  • jedimaster505
    jedimaster505 Member Posts: 287

    you practice looping the killer, by looping the killer. there is no method, as there are far too many variables to analyze at once. any pattern or technique set in stone is far too predictable. so what you really want to do is spontaneously choose a unique pathing while in chase while observing the killer s movement. windows of opportunity cuts down the guessing game of pallet/window/breakable wall rng and is a strong perk even for veteran players that can greatly extend a run

  • Mr_K
    Mr_K Member Posts: 10,342

    No AI killer is going to mind game you which is essential to looping.

  • Abbzy
    Abbzy Member Posts: 2,116

    Best way I see is just play survivor and try to get as many chases as you can, ofcourse you will die a lot but you will get better and second is just play 1v1 with some friend or random player you find for practice.

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  • ToadieOdie
    ToadieOdie Member Posts: 8
    edited July 7

    The best advice I can give is find some friends who are better at looping than you are who are willing to demonstrate how it works in custom matches with you. They can take turns with you showing you how various tile sets work, how check spots work, etc. And let you cycle through as killer, survivor, and spectator as the intensity of the chases increase. This works best if all of you are in voice chat so stuff can be explained as you go. Even if none of you know how to loop to begin with, given enough time messing around practicing together, eventually you should figure it out well enough to take your fledging skills to a public match.

  • tjt85
    tjt85 Member Posts: 1,654
    edited July 7

    Been asking for this on the forums whenever I'm given the opportunity, so I'll ask again. When do Survivors get to play with bots in the custom game mode like Killers do?

    I feel like it wouldn't take that much time to develop. They've got the Trapper bot ready to go, they just need to add him to the custom game mode with all available maps and perks and we're good. Of course it won't be as good as real in game practice, or for learning Killer specific counter play, but it should help us develop the fundamentals and learn common pallet spawns. We'll be able to explore the maps and the various tile/loop set ups at our own leisure while the bot Survivors are busy slamming the gens. It would be better than nothing. Better yet would be a set of tile by tile drills that take you through the basics of things like check spots etc, but that would take a lot more development time and at this point, is probably not something BHVR would commit resources to.

    I've tried watching YouTube videos but I just don't seem able to learn that way. My brain is in panic mode and not learning mode whenever I'm in chase, so I can't learn that way either.

    Edit: To answer you question OP, I don't. I'm nearly as bad at looping as the day I installed the game. Because as I said, no way to practice.

  • edgarpoop
    edgarpoop Member Posts: 8,718
    edited July 7
    1. Relax during chase.
    2. Focus on being patient and holding check spots. Your goal isn't to outrun the killer. It's to get to a spot you can hold and wait for them to make the next move.
    3. Slow down. This ties into point 2. Take killer shack for example. You're moving in 3-5 meter increments from check spot to check spot. For example, it's shack door>window>vault or loop backside>hold backside checkspot>rinse and repeat. Think of chase as more of a stop/start interaction rather than a sprint.

    I'm not the best survivor in the world, but just doing those things will mentally exhaust a killer. No free downs. Make them work for every bit of it.

  • Ryuhi
    Ryuhi Member Posts: 4,414

    Losing games. The biggest complaint people have about losing games is that they don't have a chance to win. That said, they make excellent practice sessions for looping: Either you do well and give your team a chance to make a comeback, or you do poorly and end up out of the match faster. Either way, you're giving yourself experience in that particular matchup, which gives you the ability to try things out based on your current build and situation.

    A loss you learn from is better than an easy win. Self improvement often both requires and flourishes with a lemons to lemonade mentality.

  • KerJuice
    KerJuice Member Posts: 2,104

    This is the best answer. This is what most of our favorite DBD streamers do- especially the ones who are not Day 1 players.

    I will also add play killer- a lot. You have to understand killer movement, mind games, and camera view. Most of all, you need to understand how each killer’s powers work, their add-ons, and perks. How you loop a TL against Ghostface is different from how you would loop it against Pyramid Head.

  • cogsturning
    cogsturning Member Posts: 2,145

    I'd love to get a group of people together who want to practice chase and flashlight blinds and whatnot in custom games. I feel like a silly noob asking my online friends who are mostly better than me and babysit me enough as it is.

  • HeroLives
    HeroLives Member Posts: 3,233

    playing killer is a good way to learn loops, because you’ll encounter a bunch of people that do things you never thought of that you then can take back to the survivor side. There’s also just in game practice. If there’s a certain killer you struggle against pick up playing that killer and learn their weaknesses and watch what others do against you and take that back to the survivor side.

    Mostly though as survivor playing with others on comms is the best way to learn loops and how to counter killers, because you can just ask “what do you do against this” and you can share tips and tricks on the spot.

    If you have even one friend to play with you can do customs where they play killer and you play survivor and they walk you through some of the loops or let you practice against the killers power.

  • terumisan
    terumisan Member Posts: 2,176
    edited July 8

    i watch YouTube videos occasionally of dbd players and copy what they do and if i go against good survivors do what they do

  • MechWarrior3
    MechWarrior3 Member Posts: 5,365

    I practiced just by doing. I never was a windows user so I really had no choice but to get good. You have to be aware of what's around you before you start looping the area too. Know what you have around you to use and what you don't.

  • Skeleton23
    Skeleton23 Member Posts: 517

    How I practice My chases is I go into what i call a practice match. I don't go for Gens or wins. The whole perpous of the Practice Match is to Go For Chases that have Looping involved.

    I practice mind games and trick shots without worries. If I lose a couple of games Elwell

  • Man_of_triangles
    Man_of_triangles Member Posts: 378

    Seconding this. Don't be dissuaded by the long video runtimes, most of it is spent on generic tiles you already know about. Focus on the main building and unique loop tips.

  • ShanoaLegendaryPlz
    ShanoaLegendaryPlz Member Posts: 1,234
    edited July 8

    Playing killer teaches you how to loop as survivor. Copy what you see the hardest to catch survivors doing and you will start to learn how to loop decently. Aside from that, youtube videos like from Otzdarva and others.

    The other thing that playing killer teaches you about looping as survivor, is how to mind game, and read what the killer might do before he does it. It also teaches you what each killer is capable of in a chase, allowing you to react easier.

  • MarbleThrone
    MarbleThrone Member Posts: 962

    Personally, I don't bother with learning/practicing loops. I hit Play, go with the flow, and see where the match ends.

    "Do I really look like a guy with a plan? You know what I am … I'm a dog chasing cars. I wouldn't know what to do with one if I caught it, you know? I just DO things." - Joker (The Dark Knight, 2008).

    Sums up me and my DBD gameplay quite nicely 😁.

  • Dem34888
    Dem34888 Member Posts: 140

    I don't know how it works in the US and EU, but in the RU community there are streamers who sell coaching services in looping, often these are people who play DBD in tournaments, maybe there are some of the same people among your streamers

    Because 100 matches in public and coaching from a person in private who plays in tournaments are completely different, you will learn faster and more efficiently

  • UndeddJester
    UndeddJester Member Posts: 4,970

    Getting a friend who is decent at killer in a custom game is a good way to practise vs. specific killers.

  • jmwjmw27
    jmwjmw27 Member Posts: 804

    Watch gameplay from experienced players and take note of which checkspots they use and how they play tiles. Try to implement those checkspots into your own gameplay - either in public matches, customs with a friend, or join the dbd competitive ladder discord and do 1v1s with others to practice. A lot of it comes with experience, as you play the game more you will recognize what resources you have based on your surroundings and envision in your mind the best way to chain tiles together.

    If there is a specific tile you struggle with try finding a person to play customs with or try to find that tile in a public match and study it. If you are playing killer you can see how your opponents use it and look for what is and isn’t working, if you are playing survivor you can try different things and see what you should do based on what the killer does. If a killer requires you to play that loop differently, you will learn that after playing against them and noticing the difference in chase. Running the tile over and over again is the best way to retain information about it.

  • jedimaster505
    jedimaster505 Member Posts: 287

    Windows doesn't make you a good looper, it just eliminates some RNG so you don't have to guess if the pallet behind a wall is broken or not. This is especially helpful in solo Q, because even if you watch your surroundings you can't always know which resources have been used or where they've spawned, and running around the map to check in advance wastes time.

  • SoGo
    SoGo Member Posts: 4,238

    As someone who also doesn't know how to loop, I figure it likely works like driving.

    You get the hang of it with time.

  • ToadieOdie
    ToadieOdie Member Posts: 8

    I'd rather you ask me questions because if you never ask, you'll never know. Additionally, there's always the chance you'll ask me something I've never thought about and I'll end up learning something too.

  • MechWarrior3
    MechWarrior3 Member Posts: 5,365
    edited July 8

    I’m aware of how WOO works. I was just giving tips on what works for me since OG posted asked for advice.

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  • jedimaster505
    jedimaster505 Member Posts: 287

    That's fine, it's just that I commonly see people say directly or insinuate that perks like Windows and Deja Vu are "beginner" perks when that's not the case. I mean, they're definitely useful for beginners, but they're also strong perks at high level play, moreso with solo Q, because info and time are of the essence.

  • CertifiedMegHead2
    CertifiedMegHead2 Member Posts: 45

    Ok that makes more sense to focus on since those main building give me the most trouble

  • 100PercentBPMain
    100PercentBPMain Member Posts: 2,749

    I used to practice by playing as p100 Feng with cosmetics that subconsciously made killers hate me but with lobby prestige gone I just rock a "safety in the eye of the storm" build something like OoO, Troubleshooter, Resilience and Scene Partner.

    the build let's me push my limits by playing more unsafe Pallets but the build tends to backfire as both OoO and Scene Partner tells make the killer give up on chasing me