Does anyone else just feel like Survivor is utterly pointless now
Barring Swf, and I mean a full 4 man with meta "maybe". Because Lately, every match in Solo queue is horrendous.
I have the Survivor Bonus, yet I get put in lobbies with survivors that don't seem to understand what Friends Till The End Does, nor do they know how to run ANY Clown, or Ghoul.
Every single game, I'm up against a Killer that is either busted thanks to poor design (Thanks Devs) or theyre literally so-calld "S-Tier" rank; both types are running all Meta OR the "Tunnel-Vision The Scream" build Every single Ghoul and Blight is running.
It's become impossibly miserable. Games aren't fun anymore because they feel like a loss from the get-go. ANd I don't mean that losing = immediately unfun. I mean there's no hope to even enjoy a struggle in-game because it's just constant stomping with no hope of making a comeback.
To top it off, bming is getting worse as well, It's so so soooo frustrating getting a Ghoul that "Kidnap Techs" you, downs you, then humps you as if you've insulted them by not just going into the dying state as they approached. Oh And Clowns. My GOD. They have become the new host to the Old Skull Merchant Abusers that ruined her name. Nearly Every Clown I go against is extremely toxic and unpleasant.
On the opposite, but close side of the problem, Survivors are also giving up in droves. Bots are become more and more common as teammates and that in itself is a whole other ordeal. They DON'T WORK. They are mindless and don't take risks until the last second, so they can be easily read by the Killer. I literally get Bots that start running from hook as soon as terror radius is just starting to ghost me, and the Bot was 5 feet away. The only thing they do well is gens, which, as soon as they're chased, it's almost guaranteed they're done for.
This also goes back around to the first issue I mentioned with survivors. There's such a lack of cohesion within actual people playing together. I get teammates that seem as though they just downloaded the game. And It really REALLY makes me wish MMR was actually SHOWN. Because I guess I must be at the very bottom of the barrel, yet I get Killers that run all Sweat Builds with every "Tech" and Tile memorized down to a T.
And then, to make matters worse, The Devs nerf a new Survivor Item, one that actually was niche but AT LEAST gave some breathing room against Aura Spamming Killers, and it is now a dinky 2 use item with a massive cooldown.
It just feels awful. Awful, miserable, and utterly pointless.
Even matches I win don't make me happy. Because it just isn't fun anymore when you feel like the game is utterly warped beyond any credible joy.
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Ghoul makes survivor feel pointless, he's too way too oppressive for how easy he is. But i usually just play anyway for bloodpoints and some fun chases. Luckily i play against a variety of killers. I think survivor is often fun, i find it easy to move on from frustrating matches.
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Sadly, every match has been a constant upward battle with no reward. Good for you though.
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My experience lately too. I’ve had a good mix of killers in my matches so overall not bad, but when Ghoul crops up it’s a very unpleasant experience.
He takes far too little effort for how strong he is. Especially when all the ones I play against slap on the strongest add ons and four slowdown :/
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So far I've had 2 Blights, 2 Ghouls, 1 Springtrap and 1 Singularity.
In all games, the killer runs best addons, tunnels (Except for 1 ghoul and 1 blight using the "Scream Build" with Furtive) and all Meta (Save for the last 2 who are using Mobility Gimmick).
In the Springtrap game, there was a Felix that was new, wearing default. He was literally caught within a few seconds with the Axe Grab and was tunneled out. In the Singularity Game, there was a Yui that straight up refused to run and fast tracked her death. The Singularity was also extremely toxic, I asusme it was because in order to combat Scourge Hooks, I use the near-pointless-by-itself Boil Over, which he took personally and beat me and humped me again ands again -_-1 -
I had a horrible night last night. 14 deaths, about half involving egregious tunneling, camping, and slugging. In one match, my teammates left me to die on first hook with no thought of saving me. Just ran out the door.
Bad and clueless teammates are a huge issue. I feel ike I should at least be out of the MMR bracket that puts me with people who don't understand the game at all. Hours played should factor into matchmaking.
I almost never face Kaneki though. It's like once every 50-100 matches. I don't know why everyone sees him more than I do. Thankfully my Clowns have been minimal too, because they've been super viscious and unforgiving.
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I've been having lots of fun playing the game myself and have not been encountering this nearly as much as you have.
The odd toxic meta player, yeah - we have those.
Clowns are all over and it's bad, as you say.
Honestly, though, this is nothing new. Every patch that comes out with this game some content creators make some videos like 'CLOWN IS BROKEN LMAOOO" and "SWF GETS OWNED. TOKYO GHOUL FTW!" level brainrot, then players copy the builds and try to emulate what they watched on YT.
For example, this past week I have run into a TON i mean a LOT of BASEMENT BUILDS!
Iron Grasp, Agitation, Mad Grit, etc. Why? Why is this artist/Onryo/Ghostface/Trapper (okay the last one makes a little sense) walking across the entire map to put me in the shack and camp me when I've been playing this game for 6 years and haven't seen this since basement bubba?
Because some TikTok content creator made a meme and folks are easily influenced. It will go away.
You're not wrong - toxic killer builds are everywhere and folks are abusing the changes. But this isn't new. I remember when boon totems released broken and everyone was bringing those healing perks to meme on folks.
I remember when Call Of Brine Eruption combo became a big deal even though the perks were generally mid until someone started saber rattling about it.
I got smacked down by the Hubris-Fury build several times a few weeks back and haven't seen it since! It was an odd pocket.
Folks get influenced and play the game all the time. It's annoying. They find "broken" stuff and then go into matches trying to abuse it - it's annoying. You're right.
What's the point of playing survivor anymore? Because it's survivor and we like playing it. Shoe's on the survivor's foot for scummy meme builds this patch, but it's always like this and always will be. Next patch some survivors will get some busted update and Killers will complain about meme builds abusing it.
Remember when the Boil Over change had everyone bring Erie of Crows and going up to that corner on the top floor with flip flop? I do. That was horrible - but the counterplay, hilariously enough, was to just leave em to bleed out and get their teammates.
Wild, lame, annoying, toxic players will always be in this videogame experience and community because, well, they exist in real life! Humans are funny things! If you're asking what the point is to all of this, I'm not a pastor or a spirit guide, but I've been playing this game through many many busted up patches and I still like it - I still owe the game a lot - if the kitchen is getting a bit hot then sit the patch out until things are smooth again (I did that with the boon patch, that healing bugged me)
It's a silly game that's not worth stressing about, and if meta builds, trolls, and easily influenced memers out to ruin your day are wrecking your enjoyment, there's no shame in putting things down to do something more enjoyable until all this gets sorted out :)
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What are you talking about? I love going up against a Killer that's blocking gens and revealing us while continuing to camp/tunnel/slug until all of us are occupied on everything but gens until we all go down and Abandon after only getting 2 done. 🤓
It's pretty miserable. Honestly I could put up with the faulty matchmaking and losing 60% of the time as long as I felt that my playtime was more valuable. The role has lost a lot of autonomy over the last few years and there hasn't been a very concentrated effort to get it back. I have a strong feeling that whatever measures they have to balance it going forward are going to be flaccid at best and introduce more nerfs to compensate at worst.
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