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People are overreacting about The Krasue

I have seen non-stop complaint about the Krasue ever since she went live and I'm honestly tired of it. Everyone is saying "she doesn't have counterplay." She actually does, but it is far too early to find something concrete. We're adults, not entitled toddlers who need instant gratification without the effort. She isn't S-Tier, nor does she rival Nurse. No one has ever threatened Nurse in 9 years. She is mid to low A at best, high to mid B at worst.

If you're struggling against her, learn to loop better. Her head form is difficult to control and vaults much slower than survivors. Keep yourself un-Leeched, and you're golden. My SWF and I go against P100s and run circles around them, Krasue is no different. Play the game and get better before posting to the forums

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  • adam1233467
    adam1233467 Member Posts: 1,396

    How Im supposed to get unleched if she tunnels me and I dont have time to do it?

    Also, nurse is not S tier if she is a bad player, neither krasue, you are just getting horrible krasues, I guarantee to you, if you go against a smart krasue you will change your mind very fast.

  • EvilBarney666
    EvilBarney666 Member Posts: 340

    I have to agree with the OP

  • Nun_So_Vile
    Nun_So_Vile Member Posts: 2,813
    edited September 25

    I have to agree with the OP on this. Way too much knee-jerk reaction on a killer that is at best B-tier, possibly low A. I'm not seeing the outrage for a mid killer. Give them time to sort the bugs out.

  • AbsolutGrndZer0
    AbsolutGrndZer0 Member Posts: 1,835
    edited September 25

    Are you new here? Welcome to Dead by Daylight. Unless a killer is complete trash, people are going to complain.

    But joke aside, yes I 100% agree with you!

  • Nun_So_Vile
    Nun_So_Vile Member Posts: 2,813

    I keep hearing that its bad Krasue players, but i'm high MMR and only go against the best on NA East. Starting to think it's just the killer who is bad and the players are overestimating Krasue not the other way around.

  • Pulsar
    Pulsar Member Posts: 22,919
    edited September 25

    That isn't how MMR works.

    You dont "only go against the best," you go against whoever the matchmaker happens to grab.

    Better players than me think she's busted. Worse players than me think she's busted. There's a select few who think she's mid.

  • Nun_So_Vile
    Nun_So_Vile Member Posts: 2,813
    edited September 25

    Played since 2017 and all I do is win. A skill issue is a skill issue. Many players think shes not that great as many who think she's busted. You know what they say about opinions. How about we let the data speak for itself and quit with the knee jerk and reaction farming.

  • MashedBroccoli
    MashedBroccoli Member Posts: 273
    edited September 25

    ngl watching the “best” dbd players get two tapped by her constantly and then seeing killer mains here pretend she isn’t top 3 maybe even top 1 is super laughable. Ohtofu talk about not wanting to even touch survivor last night was hilarious.

  • Atsuka_Anarchy
    Atsuka_Anarchy Member Posts: 525

    I have to agree with @badgerman97, you won't improve at any game if you don't try. I had fun games last night vs Krasue, she wasn't as bad as some people say who were up in arms about her. They were probably all just trying her out, but didn't have any issues with her. Hug walls, double back, look behind you when running, etc. But this is just my experience playing vs her; practice makes better results in a match and writing every killer off as "OP" when they're released just churns out the same dry and repeated cycle of: New Chapter→OP Killer Tier S reeee→Nerfed to the gulag→Rinse and Repeat.

  • Langweilig
    Langweilig Member Posts: 3,132

    She still has more counterplay than nurse, so why is noone asking for nerfing her?

  • MashedBroccoli
    MashedBroccoli Member Posts: 273

    people been asking for nurse nerfs since the beginning where have you been. Thanks to her awakened awareness died before it could walk.

  • Langweilig
    Langweilig Member Posts: 3,132

    A few people maybe, but there has never been an uproar that big for her like for any newer killers

  • Pulsar
    Pulsar Member Posts: 22,919

    Okay? I fail to see how that makes your incorrect assertion true?

  • MechWarrior3
    MechWarrior3 Member Posts: 5,365

    Aren’t killers suppose to play smart? If she is, sounds like she is doing her job as a killer, no?


    If she is bad Krause, then she loses.

  • MechWarrior3
    MechWarrior3 Member Posts: 5,365

    Thank you. Enough said. 💯

    Krasue will need adjustments, like infection off hook should be removed, her bug hitting through stuff should be fixed.(it’s a bug though. When has there not been a bug that hit live after a PTB) 🤣

  • Brimp
    Brimp Member Posts: 3,550
    edited September 25

    Ok I'm one to say when something is a bit overtuned and the Krasue post buffs is a bit overtuned. In the PTB when you could just walk past her head lunge and not get hit that was ridiculous and what made her C tier. But in the combination of making the lunge an active hitbox at all times while reducing the amount of times you hit the environment, increased turning and 120% it starts to get a bit much.

    I'd say she's sitting comfortably at the top of A tier for now as she doesn't have the insane map mobility Ghoul had at launch where he could just appear due to slingshot due to enraged never ending.

  • MashedBroccoli
    MashedBroccoli Member Posts: 273
    edited September 25

    If you can come around you know shes overtuned lol. Massive respect. I know you fight tooth and nail for killers so this coming from you is pretty big.

  • Blizer
    Blizer Member Posts: 77
    edited September 25

    I think her counter play wise rn is just having non-infected body block hits for infected people, but that requires coordination and for solo survivors… thats not gonna happen every time.

    Her hitbox i think everyone can agree on the tentacle is just broken rn, it might be bugged, but hitting over pallets and loops, along with vaulting over pallets, insta M1 after puke, her low cooldowns and really good map mobility, plus infection not going away on hook… its just a mess with her rn, and i think she needs to get hit currently (Right now id call for her M1 insta, hug-tech and massive hitbox on tentacles to get nerfed and infection going away when hooked atm).

    Issue is her regurgiate is homing, so it can be incredibly hard to dodge, and forcing the m1 from her is the way to do it, but it can be very difficult… mainly because the cooldown on it is non existent. Not to mention her Add-on that spawns everyone with the infection allows her to snowball like crazy is insane.

    They do need to nerf her, and atleast give another avenue of counter play, cause if the Krasue brings Bam-Dissolution, Survivors legit have no agency against her outside of someone taking body blocks.

  • Choaron
    Choaron Member Posts: 818

    Well said fellow kil- I mean DBD mains!

  • runningguy
    runningguy Member Posts: 771

    am i correct in that you say survivors shouldnt expect a reasonable counter as instant gratification without effort but the killer can receive instant gratification without effort? far too early to find concrete counterplay, but not far too early to find optimal play with the killer?

    keep yourself un-leeched and your golden? there is literally an add on that means people start the match leeched lol.

    this has to bait surly lol

  • MoZo
    MoZo Member Posts: 763

    ragebait used to be believable.

  • Munky
    Munky Member Posts: 227
    edited September 25

    Agreed.

    This playerbase is completely beyond me. I would much rather have a Krasue than a Nurse… at least Krasue I can loop :D Why is nobody calling for nurse nerfs?

    Before I went survivor, I played Krasue a bunch myself, and thus now have a rather good understanding of her power and limits. When you understand she has a 90° locked angle (just like they did my boy chucky dirty), she is so easy and even funny to juke :D Even made a game out of it to make her "whaaaaagh" as much in 1 chase as I could :D Had a few 3man out matches in solos. So far I'm not complaining about Krasue yet. Genrush will always beat killer, no matter how good they are. And I'm kinda happy to see less ghouls and Springtraps now ^^

  • MoZo
    MoZo Member Posts: 763

    we’ve been calling for nerfs to nurse for 9 years… we’ve just came to the realization that the devs will never actually do a meaningful nerf to nurse because they want to keep her number one for a reason (a very bad reason imo).

  • Cassiopeiae
    Cassiopeiae Member Posts: 385

    Another "the new killer isn’t unfair" post, destined to curdle faster than milk the moment the nerfs inevitably roll in.

  • runningguy
    runningguy Member Posts: 771

    people have been calling for nurse nerfs for years lol. the big difference between nurse and krasue is nurse takes some time and skill to get to top performance. krasau doesnt take much skill and literally anyone even new players can pick up instantly and get 4k.

  • MashedBroccoli
    MashedBroccoli Member Posts: 273
    edited September 25

    a first time player could 4k with krasue, a first time player probably wouldn’t even 1k with nurse. Nurse requires practice to be good with. People have been begging for nurse nerfs for years at this point you’re being disingenuous by suggesting otherwise.

    Blight ghoul nurse and krasue all need adjustments. With ghoul and krasue requiring them more rapidly due to complete and total ease of access to pick up and play where blight and nurse are not beginner friendly at all.

  • ArcT
    ArcT Member, Alpha Surveyor Posts: 210

    You want to see something painfully egregious?

    Her infection doesn't bounce according to physics. It bounces to automatically track survivors.

  • tes
    tes Member Posts: 1,201

    ”skill adaptability is needed for this game” someone said

    “people need tools to catch up” they were claiming

    As soon as this happened on other side, we see results. AUTO AIMING damn it. Who will find it fair?

    I thought 2 vs 8 and Ghoul were already a good lesson not helping people while it affects others.

  • DeBecker
    DeBecker Member Posts: 936

    Its quite fun that all people who want to defend this mess of a killer say "wait until someone finds counterplay". Thats more than enough proof that isnt any counterplay. We caould watch for 3,5 weeks by now. Its nothing new.

  • Ricardo170373
    Ricardo170373 Member Posts: 832

    Se needs some ajusts BUT NOT on her cooldowns. Just remove the infection when u goes to the hook and maybe not injure when u leached level 1, just level 2. And just it. Krasue is a solid killer and against SWF she doesnt to much, she doesnt need nerf on her cooldowns. She is smooth to play now and u need learn and use 100% from her to enjoy her benefits.

  • Spirit_IsTheBest
    Spirit_IsTheBest Member Posts: 1,112

    So there's counterplay but it's too early to explain what it is? You make zero sense. You're practically telling us to get better against her without giving real tips on how, so your points are invalid.

    Once you are leached your pretty much dead, she has a flight ability that lasts WAY too long, her lunge is ridiculously good, mushrooms take too long to be effective, if you attempt to dodge anything, her whip or leech attack, it's pointless due to her nonexistent attack cooldowns, what are we supposed to do? Playing against her is so miserable on every level, and when the teammates are dcing, coming from a solo player, it makes things so annoying. Plus she has a add-on that INSTANTLY leeches you, and the moment the match starts the killer flies to us with Lethal Pursuer and instantly gets free hits with her whip, it's super unfun.

    I'm tired of the developers over buffing killers from the PTB, it's a pattern that's been happening, for an example Kaneki, and it's really getting out of hand at the moment, playing survivor feels like a chore.

  • Aceislife
    Aceislife Member Posts: 482

    Nurse has more counterplay than Krasue. Krasues lunge is busted with head mode, and she moves insanely fast with Headlong Flight. She can also attack or vault very fast coming out of it.

  • Aceislife
    Aceislife Member Posts: 482

    Would this accurately work in a chase, say you always tried to bounce the attack at the wall nearest to the survivors current location, does it consistently hit them as they're moving?

  • Nun_So_Vile
    Nun_So_Vile Member Posts: 2,813
    edited September 26

    Billy is better than Krasue by a mile and a chainsaw. Another killer being burned at the stake due to a witch hunt because Survs refuse to play the game against any challenging killer. Surv players DC and ruin their team's chances of winning and then act like it's the killer's fault for their teammates lack of commitment to play the game they readied up for. Just like how they acted with Dracula's release and many other killers. Crying foul and refusing the play until A-tier at best killer gets nerfed to C-tier.

    Lets face the facts and call a spade a spade… Survs simply just hate a challenge and want easy games. That's why they just DC in their games with her and just run to the forums to cry foul. Tell your teammates to stop quitting trials with her, learn the game, and maybe there wouldn't be this mass hysteria knee-jerk reaction from the community. Let the data speak for itself. Stronger than Nurse and Kaneki? Oh for crying out loud, give me a break. I heard the same hysteria for ST on release too.

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