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Why did OTR and Hope got nerfed, but Pain Res NOT? (it was in PTB)

And Ruin STILL GOT BUFFED! How is it fair? You're just bullying survivors at this point.

I ask for OTR and Hope nerfs revert.

P.S. If you think that Hope should be nerfed because of 110 killers, how about we nerf all killer haste perks so they give less bonus to 115 killers? This only be fair in your point of view, right?

Comments

  • TheMruczek
    TheMruczek Member Posts: 250

    OTR and Hope nerfs are very questionable and should be reverted, especially OTR since anti-tunnel changes didn't go through. As for the killer perks:

    It’s becouse Pain Resonance is barely worth running. It's 20% which is 5% more than the value of the OG Pain Res. Any nerf at this point to Pain Resonance would make the perk unviable for anyone aside Nurse, Krasue, Billy and Blight and it's still the best killer slowdown perk which just shows the state of the killer meta perks.

    Ruin got got buffed becouse using it would make you miss out on base-kit Pop effect on 9.2.0 ptb. I am kinda surprised the buff went to live but ey, it’s a perk that makes you actually focus on chasing survivors instead of kicking gens so again, why complain? Chase is the most fun aspect of the game for both sides. The numbers are still lower than 200% Ruin and I wouldn't be surprised to see a buff to it in future ptb with new anti-tunnel changes since the perk was not worth running on the last ptb even with the buff.

    Nobody is bullying survivors and the majority of the changes in last 2 years shows that killers are now getting the short end of the stick. I advise playing both sides.

  • BOJIK_102RU
    BOJIK_102RU Member Posts: 22
    edited September 30

    Pain res is barely worth running, that's why it's top 1 used killer perk on NightLight. And I DIDN'T say that it deserves a nerf, I don't think so, I ONLY pointed out that devs wanted to nerf it, but they didnt, while nerfing survivor perks that shouldn't be nerfed (I also forgot mentioning Tanacity).

    I also didn't say that Ruin shouldn't be buffed and I didn't compaint about it. Again, just pointing out how unfair survivor perks nerfs are. You're just making things up at this point.

    I play both side, thanks.

  • BOJIK_102RU
    BOJIK_102RU Member Posts: 22

    Also killers are only getting buffs the last two years, the only exception I can think of is Blight, and he deserved everything.

  • Sava18
    Sava18 Member Posts: 2,514

    I'm pretty sure otr has been confirmed to be getting hotfixed. On pain res though making it 12% when it's by far the most healthy slow down perk killers have would be just odd. Although I'm not sure why the some perk changes went through when the changes they were based off of didn't. I'm quite certain they literally just forgot to remove those changes or a conversation between the devs got misunderstood. Someone got lazy is my best guess.

  • Sava18
    Sava18 Member Posts: 2,514
  • TheMruczek
    TheMruczek Member Posts: 250

    Anti-camp mechanic, nerfing every best killer gen regression perks on DnD chapter patch, 70sec hook states, nerfing Stbfl despite it needing small tweaks, adding debatebly broken survivor perks (vigil, conviction, hyperfocus 1234 stake out combo, resurgence, botany knowledge, shoulder the burden being the best examples), adding anti-3 gen mechanic just becouse of OG SM and Eruption (which that one i can get behind), nerfing Mangled for no reason and I am sure i am missing something.

    And to top it all of, now more pallets spawn in more realms. I mean have you played new Blood Lodge? I did yesterday. That map is so cooked for killer I don't remember the last time they added double Crane into one map with this many fillars that AREN'T weak like some like to say.

    As for Blight thing. I mean he's dbd golden boy. Can do no wrong.

  • TheMruczek
    TheMruczek Member Posts: 250

    That's slippery thing. If Pain Res got nerfed 3 times why toolboxes are still how they are? Blight exists so ig Insta heals are fair. Like you get my point. OMG YOU CANNOT NERF A BECOUSE B EXISTS. You can point Behaviour flawed balancing without comparing things of both sides every times something happens becouse at the end both sides do still have some things that deserve nerfs at least to some degree.

  • Abbzy
    Abbzy Member Posts: 2,099

    Ruin is hex and hex perk has to be glass cannon, stron effect with downside of the threat being deastroyed and loosing it (ruin was nerfed not because it was super strong if you dont count first version but because it was top perk for killer and everybody used it so devs wanted some change and shift in the meta), hope should be 5% haste against all 110% speed killers with one exeption and thats spirit, again Im surprised the post us vs them are so common here even they should be against the rules.

  • Abbzy
    Abbzy Member Posts: 2,099

    Blight nerfs were not so big because he is still top 2 killer, the killers that are being buffed two last years are mostly weaker killers maybe only pyramid is exeption and if you want to make game more balanced and give survivors solid buffs in basekit untitunnel etc. then killers shouldnt have this big gab like between blight and trapper it makes balancing for maps,perks and everything hard because one is effected very little and other one is destroyed by these changes thats why they want to close the gab between killers power scale (there will be always someone the weakest killer but if all killers are ballanced around current +a-tiers and b-tiers killers then its way easier for devs give survivors some good stuf).

  • Coffeecrashing
    Coffeecrashing Member Posts: 5,667

    If the Blight nerfs “were not so big”, then it should be fine if BHVR reverted every nerf they’ve ever given Blight, right?

    And if BHVR reverted all these nerfs, you wouldn’t complain, because they “were not so big”???????

  • Abbzy
    Abbzy Member Posts: 2,099

    Blight nerfs werent big because even after his most two key overpowered thing were taken from him which are hug tech (his hug tech made him to be able play at every loop with his power and was easy to pull compare to wesker whos hug tech is just perfect frame time window which is super hard to do), second thing was his original op addons like alchemy ring or compound 33 which were busted. What he had became after this nerfs? He is still top 2 strongest killer in the game so yeah those nerfs were nothing compare to x chucky nerfs or even 2 ghoul nerfs or other killers nerfs.

    This rage quit post is just from someone who is missing old blight, personaly I dont after all nerfs he got he is s-tier killer and still second strongest killer in the game who wasnt overthrown by other killers like first version of ghoul,chucky and maybe only one who was able to tie with him almost is krasue before her new nerfs that were implemented today so thats all to your give me old blight rage post.

  • CrossTheSholf
    CrossTheSholf Member Posts: 867
  • OrangeBear
    OrangeBear Member Posts: 3,478

    You do not want Pain Res to be nerfed. If you don't want to be tunnelled Pain Res is how killers can keep up.

  • ReverseVelocity
    ReverseVelocity Member Posts: 5,488

    That's far too much work for something they could realistically just do on a whim anyway.

    Like if they nerfed OTR out of the blue, even if there was outrage the developers could just… not revert the change. Nobody can make them if they're really that committed to an idea.

  • Abbzy
    Abbzy Member Posts: 2,099

    Pop is better in numbers and in developers goal of killers gameplay forcing him to move from hook but pain res its better in use on most killers for vaurius reasons mainly for better synergy with other strong perks like deadmans switch or grim embrace, second main reason is not all killers can get fast to the gen that needs to be poped like ghostface,trapper,clown and killers like dreadge,freddy,billy can use it quite effectively (the weaker ones I mentioned like dreadge can struggle because they can use it with their mobility but the key part for pop is getting hooks and they struggle with this comapre to billy or blight).

  • Rickprado
    Rickprado Member Posts: 892

    Since the Postponement - its not even a cancel, LOL - of the anti-tunnel changes people on this forum have been on the trend that "BHVR hates survivors" . I understand the why they are upset but some people are exceeding. The killer who have been receiving buffs are the low tier one which were in a very bad spot like Pig, Knight, Clown (who has been fixed in the 9.2.0).

  • TheMruczek
    TheMruczek Member Posts: 250

    Yeah becouse it's the only gen regression perk that is decent on any killer. Ruin might take it's place though, i've been seeing it more lately.

  • YayC
    YayC Member Posts: 212

    Are we just going to pretend other killer nerfs didn't go through that were done for the changes like the deerstalker one?

    Also what on earth does the hope nerf have to do with the last changes? They reverted (randomly) changes that had to do with the tunnel/slug changes, hope has literally nothing to do with those changes.

    The same way they didn't revert the buff to clairvoyance because they reverted the changes, the two have nothing to do with each other.

  • jmwjmw27
    jmwjmw27 Member Posts: 802
    edited October 5

    Not true, and even if it was, that doesn't make it "barely worth running", it is above literally every other perk in the game on every killer across the board. It is the best perk in the game, not barely worth running.

  • TheMruczek
    TheMruczek Member Posts: 250

    "It is above every other perk in the game on every killer" I wonder why Killers use Pain Res so much, maybe becouse the rest of the killer perks suck. Let me be clear. It is barely worth running as anyone but top tiers, and even then you don't see it as the only gen regression perk becouse the numbers are so mediocre