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Burn out?
According to stats, I feel absolute fine playing both roles now, but mentally I am exhausted. A whole burn out is all I experience towards this game, and the only thing that interests me is improving in micro. For interactions - it feels so dead on both sides now.
When I play survivor, I rarely play against person itself, and more against 6 perks Ghoul, pallet eater Blight, some terrible RGN, highly mobile killer and pure efficiency. No, I don't find it toxic, but it forces me to play pretty strict, yet limits my expression.
And absolutely same as killer. Styptic, BNP, DS, whole bunch of perks and prerun/predrop. And no again, I don't blame people and don't find it toxic. But it brought me to the point I don't care anymore what people would think about my gameplay style. Skill/unskill? Tunnel/Slug/FP? Just doesn't matter.
I’m not playing against people now. It doesn't feel so. This is the last thing I expected from PvP game.
The most funny game I had this months is when a person in pre game chat made a rude joke, and I joked as well about sandbagging them. After this they bodyblocked me on gates so SM can take one kill. I wasn't mad - on contrast it made me feel this game is a little bit more alive and people with actual personality exist, even if it's spicy. Same fun I had when I played custom with people I know in semi competitive way. Or when I faced some Trapper player from League and they tried to bodyblock hook, which happened first time on my memory. Something that made me finally feel I’m facing people and not soulless perks, abilities, and maps. Unfortunately I experience this less and less. It's just a bland mix of mediocre surroundings, not a game of people. And this is an occurance on both sides.
I’m not tired of tunnelling, but I’m tired of under what conditions it occurs. I'm not tired of genrush, but I'm irritated by the circumstances behind it. Everyone I talk to right now, to varying degrees, experiences the same thing. They're no longer excited by the content—they don't see the Rift or an interesting stream of events. I’m imagining Execitioner, but the news about him being added in 2 vs 8 made me feel nothing. New maps, killers, survivors—they feel so strange and soulless. Strange balance decisions simply put the last ball in the net.
I'd like to hear from people who continue to play, and how exactly they cope with this state. Have you started playing more custom games? Have you come up with any personal challenges? Maybe you've gone to the ranked Discord server? And in general, I'd be interested to know how common this feeling is.
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this game isnt a very deep game with ranked progression like league or street fighter. you're simply burnt out. you need to stop playing for a bit. alternatively go play with friends or randoms with vc on discord. or you can take inspirations dfrom the content creators. they do challenges and winstreaks becuse they're bored.
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I play games that aren't DbD.
Sorry, that's probably not the answer you're looking for, but it's the truth.
Playing with a friend makes DbD more fun, and we do silly things that aren't really part of normal gameplay to alleviate the burn out. We love the lute. Right now, however, Switch is cut off from cross-play, so my friend and I can't play together. I just finished my first playthrough of Dying Light: The Beast. Good game. I've also been playing some Hollow Knight (original), Lords of the Fallen (2023), and a bit of Bloodborne. If I'm going to be playing a game solo, I'm going to play a game that's fun for solo, and DbD ain't it.
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Is it really related to my desire play the game more competitively? I mean… I have also pretty casual friends and even myself can try some meme build time to time. And I’m not expecting to win when play like this, but it just… doesn't feel I really allowed to do it anymore
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I currently enjoying remake of Silent Hill2 and planning to try SH3 as well.
But yeah, that's not exactly what I'm looking for. The thing is, I've already spent a lot of money on this game. I can't just leave DBD—at least not right now. I’m making pauses and that's fine, it just feels it doesn't really work anymore and quality is even more poor
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The thing is, I've already spent a lot of money on this game.
That's a large part of why I stick around, too: sunk cost fallacy. Also, it's one of the few games my friend and I can (well, maybe "could"—past tense—would be more appropriate, now) play together because of PS4/Switch cross-play. But probably mostly sunk cost and time.
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I will have to clear my mind on some other game because the amout of styptic swf I have faced past few days feels terrible just pure sweaty game with nothing uniqe and whats upsets me most is I always get them with some killer who has not many options against them like bubba,ghostface,springtrap and not as ghoul or blight which can put some fight even without full meta builds.
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Stopping wasting money made me feel better, but we'll, XD, I still spend a lot.
I've bought almost all the licenses, and I bought the original characters through bundles. So yeah. I usually don't spend too much money on games (even when I played Chinese gacha, I prefered to grind rather than pay for gamble). Silent Hill and BG3 were the exceptions, while DBD was the most expensive game I've ever played. And I regret this a little.
I tried alternatives, like Identity or Carnival. Carnival isn’t for me, while Identity… well, here is a true definition of competitive game. Sometimes I still play because it gives me more of a challenge than DBD, but the atmosphere in the game is alien to me
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Playing in a too competitive way is a definite cause for burnout.
Take that from myself, who used to play a lot of Counter-Strike and League of Legends. It was simply rage-inducing and never fun. You were just there, as another pawn on a chessboard, where the match was pre-determined in the matchmaking lobby.No chill = No fun - That was my takeaway from being overly competitive, back when I actively played those games.
If you take things too seriously, it is very hard having fun with it. And that also applies to DBD.
But in DBD it is also important to consider your opponent as well. Maybe they are not playing all too serious, and just want some fun shenanigans.The MMR system, and SBMM as a whole is also to blame here, where you hit a treshold, and will only be matched against the most competitive people, who has zero chill, where it feels like you are playing against robots, who are programmed for maximum efficiency.
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Yeah, once I realized BHVR wasn't going to put the money I was giving them towards any console issues, I really stopped putting money into the game. I regret what I have given them, but I can't say I haven't gotten a lot of playtime out of the game. I've played it more than I ever should've.
I usually don't put money into games, either. I've played one gatcha game, DOAXVV, but I never put money into that: I gamble with the currency it gives me for free and that's it. I hate gambling with money. Coin op machines and maybe maybe blind box figures every once in a while, but that's it, and blind box figures 99.9% of the time let me down (I bought two! … and got the same one twice. @$%#$!). I purchased probably most of the bundles for the original Dying Light game, but those felt more than worth it, especially with as much time as I put into the game, and Techland gave DL1 a lot of love, events and new stuff for years; I was happy to give them money. I wish that were the most expensive game I'd played, but no, I'm sure it's DbD, and DbD really didn't deserve it. Foolish me.
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I'm pretty much feeling the same. It's been about four years, I've spent about three of those years getting all my Survivors to P9 and then afterwards getting my main (Dwight) to P100. And during this past anniversary event, I've gotten all my Killers to P1, so if I ever get into Killer, they'd have a full load out.
But I couldn't even get into the Killer role because the gameplay is just so boring to me. So now that my major goals are done, I no longer play on a daily basis, because I've had my fair share of frustrating matches as Survivor. Despite that, I can't bring myself to leave the game entirely.
But even if I do leave the game, I can still enjoy the universe by writing fan fiction. Or playing with DBD-Survivor Sims in The Sims 3 (and writing fan fiction about that), lol.
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I may enjoy efficiency and competitiveness, but the issue for me that from DBD it’s caused from something artificial, rather than actual play. Like perks, abilities, etc. Thats why I started to main a killer which is more likely will miss from the start and I have to practice. Thats why I’m still playing solo Q as survivor.
I hardly can tell this is competitiveness, to be honest. When I had period of playing COD (even mobile tho) and some other shooters I was actually more competitive. Like… much more. I don’t use clock call outs, S tier killers, and use full meta on survivors only because I lost any hope for random teammates most of the time. Sometimes I’m playing in streamer’s sfw with no voice and can allow there something more fun, like full altruism or stealthy builds
Effectiveness and high competitiveness can be fun. But not in DBD really, because it feels so soulless. Maybe it’s the lack of micro gameplay and technical limitations. You can’t do too much in this game in this terms until don’t start to play some ladder or trying to master high skill ceiling killer.
Just as an example recently - started first two games, and game was too easy, people gave up. Third game - two DCes, I let two people do gens and went AFK, felt too bad for them. Next game - something better, but got trash talk in EGC because few times returned to the hook and did first kill on 6th hook and not on 8th (and of course this team had full meta package and people with zero stages was prerunning to shack, while their teammates I “tunneled” did a whole package of primitive mistakes I couldn’t ignore.) As soon as I’m chill on killer - people ready to aggressively BM. I artificially handicapped myself playing one damn whisperer but do some aggressive hardtunnel - trashtalk. I got some trashtalk just for running some builds in games where I didn’t tunnel at all even. It’s impossible to satisfy some people, so I really don’t get this message of understanding opponents, when I barely was respected from such people myself. People who respected me… they maybe played “unfair”, but they never was mad at me if somehow outcome went wrong for them.
Nothing better for survivor gameplay as well. I’m trying my best - my teammate doing some primitive mistakes, we lose. I don’t treat game that seriously - get trashtalk. People really forgot what actual competitiveness and toxicity means in this game, terms became simply too obscure. Maybe I’m wrong here, who knows.
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I still hope to truly master Executioner and win against some pub scrim team on him. Maybe play some comp match even. And making a video with collections of my journey to p100 . Maybe I’m a little bit overobsessed with this killer, as well as with my Rebecca. But I really hope on it’s own my gameplay can be impressive
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if you dont enjoy the gameplay right now then you should not play just hoping for stuff like that. it is deceit. dead by daylight esports is a joke not worth the trouble.
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Maybe I’m not asking for e sports…? Just not something braindead where strengths defines by system rather than play? Because when you ask for indulging casuals through initial mechanics, you can get something like Krasue, where opposite side of same casuals will be straightforward mad seeing something like this. Because it’s simply brain dead and unfair.
The game currently doesn't fit into either the casual or competitive categories; it literally suffers from a lack of self-definition. Trying to say that there's no room for casual or competitive play in this game is the weirdest thing imaginable, because this game consists of both types of players and they constantly encounters each other. So it clearly shows BOTH sides deserve their definition of fun in game, but current lack of SBMM and balance issues literally denying the consistency of this fun for both sides.
PvP genre can’t build around casualties only. One way or another, just because people have a tendency in competition, some individuals will start competing with each other. And it’s like duty of the game to make it feel less about system and more about skill. Why do we try to deny the psychological nature? Some people literally live for competition, and that's what PvP games are for
Edit: I’m not talking about this as in context that playing casual in DBD is something that we should fight with. I’m trying to say here, that providing casual play through initial mechanic is a bad idea, because casual play should evolve around healthy environment. They shouldn’t be handholded - they should be put in comfortable zone that will satisfy them, while comp will have some sort of their own playground.The system should balance the game's approaches and intelligently separate them, rather than favoring one over the other when the community has already formed such categories. Because if the scales tip one way or the other, the balance will collapse. Are the mechanics too casual? Experienced players obsessed with winning will find a way to abuse them. Too competitive? Casual players will lose motivation and become frustrated, which leads to gameplay sabotage. And we're already seeing this in the game.
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no, i agree with you. i made a post the other day why dbd should have a ranked queue in fact. i'm just talking about this right here:
I still hope to truly master Executioner and win against some pub scrim team on him. Maybe play some comp match even.
i mean that you should not play this game just for this goal. if you do that means you dont enjoy the game anymore because you are hoping for something in the future to make it worth playing. if that's not the only reason you play for then disregard.
iwould not take the game so seriously unless you're playing on the ranked discord or until ranked officially gets added in. just my opinion.
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i mean that you should not play this game just for this goal. if you do that means you dont enjoy the game anymore because you are hoping for something in the future to make it worth playing. if that's not the only reason you play for then disregard.
Oh, no, actually I’m fine with such type of play. I’m not burn out of idea I need to compete with comp or scrim - because they do their own balancing in private servers.I’m not actually looking for such teams in public match, and I’m not playing like comp every time. Otherwise, I hardtunneled in every match and used league balancing for perks. Which seems pretty bad idea for me to behave like this, because comp and pub have both different mentality and way of play. My pub is more about some weird challenges or learning my M2.
My burnout with Killers is more about still playing against system more than against the players themselves. Solos have no real information, and the maps are very strangely balanced. It's demoralizing, and my matches are literally 50% semi-sweat, 50% I'm looking on a DCed person, betraying a teammate, doing really weird stuff. What can I do? Like, this game literally didn't teach people. I have low hours, but I watched a lot of sources and had practice with way stronger players than me, so I feel I have some kind of unfair advantage towards moments when MMR shows me 500 hours survivor with lute. And being friendly over and over again because game itself failed in creating comfy zone for such players feels like a waste of time. Next game I can feel this unfair disadvantage for myself, being forced to play on broken map with some sfw with 4 syringes and bunch of SB with total of 12k hours. Do I feel people want to play with me? Not really.
Burnout on Survivors is a little different. Playing solo is simply painful, I don't think I even need to explain why. And some of the developer decisions are simply strange. I don't mind the Ghoul's ability itself - even his free hit scans. But the balance of addons that literally allow him to play with six perks, or Krassues’s lack of a cooldown that allows her insta M1, while I see a lot of them, kills me from inside. And it’s also demoralising my teammates. I … maybe ragequited twice for my 800 hours as surv, but can’t even count how much it happened on 5 gens from my teammates. And nothing I can really do about this
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Trust me, I too run into the trash-talking squads when I play killer. It sucks, but I usually just brush it off as a compliment, saying that I did better than them.
Oh and the add-ons, I totally get it. It is kinda silly that some killers are essentially able to bring 6 perks. Can you imagine the outcry if that was the case for survivor add-ons.I don’t use clock call outs, S tier killers, and use full meta on survivors only because I lost any hope for random teammates most of the time. Sometimes I’m playing in streamer’s sfw with no voice and can allow there something more fun, like full altruism or stealthy builds.
Me neither. Me and my squad often mess around with the killer, bringing the instrument perks and such. It's a lot of fun getting their reaction when we line up and start playing the song. This is usually the case whenever we play as a full 4-man SWF.
I usually don't play any true S-tier killers, or if I do, I don't play like an absolute sweat. I always spread hooks around. Trying to get the people who hasn't been hooked yet, before I go for the second round
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I've been wanting a special event perkless mode for awhile. I would love to see how killers do without aura and regress, and how survivors do without exhaustion and second chance. No add-ons, no items--nothing.
Honestly I've dealt with my discontent the opposite that you likely would: by memeing. If I'm in a group, it's getting harder and harder to play serious. That's as survivor. As killer, I guess I'm feeling fine.
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eh just bury all your negative feelings deep down works for me. That or booze
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i got burned out since i like winning mand sweating for a 2k playing a non s tier killer isn't fun and playing survivor had me more mad at my teammates than the killer. so as the devs said in the past i went to play something else
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Dunno if he still does it, but Tofu used to do scrim nights.
Was pretty fun when I participated.
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I just play when I feel like it. That works for me. The quests are good as well as it gives me something to focus on when I do feel like playing. Otherwise I'll hop on Phasmophobia, or i put on the Switch for some relaxing Mario or Zelda. Don't wrap too much of your time up in the game. I find I enjoy it more when I'm not playing constantly.
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Phasmo is fun. Really wish I had more people who played it
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I’m indeed trying to meme as well, and just go there to loop the killer. One day I gave up completely and started trying to build a small heart with items from chests (thats surprisingly really hard). Sometimes killers are agreeing to 1 vs 1 or they just become friendly. But people also tired, so I don’t mind if killer slug whole team in min and let us abandon to go next. Few days ago I dced second time in my life as ragequit, because my teammate disconnected
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@Pulsar As I know, rank server is doing this job now and many popular creators time to time visit this place
But I don’t feel really confident (?) with my level yet. Maybe it’s my 800 hours hinting I need to practice more and more until I’ll be mentally prepared to play serious match. Because I played against 12k -20k hours already. First time I was left with one hook stage. Second time with three + few downs as slug, xd. Even if they played on busted maps like RPD and Gideon I don’t really match their level yet. I just starts to stressing myself and keep doing silly mistakes. More confident to play against 1-6 k now
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Phasmo? Nuh. Jenga lobby.
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I can play with you, at least once I work out how to set up microphone lol
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The quality of life updates is really needed right now, either to shake up the meta or completely rework something.
I'm waiting for the next original chapter since the current one was a big letdown for me.
In the meantime I'm enjoying The Sims 2, just like the old days.2 -
Silent Hill 3 is a phenomenal game. True horror. You’ll really appreciate Heather/Cheryl after playing it. The Silent Hill 2 remake was incredible as well. But definitely dive into 3; that’ll keep you busy for a bit :)
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Oh lord you're making me want to bring a chest build so I can make shapes with items.
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I died in 5/6 games doing this. But it was funny
Edit: I assume some person really hate me on this forum, so have to even downvote screenshot from phasmo. Welp — I got this.
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I escape a lot memeing. Case in point, a batch of memeing matches:
A Clown and a Skull Merchant weren't into it.
I should pick a character I haven't used and play them solely for memeing and see what rate I end up with after a lot of matches. It's different when you're in a party and can coordinate.
Thr voting is dumb. People downvoted someone's picture of their cat on one post. There are some babies here.
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Currently I’m not playing in memeing sfw - just because my friend got burn out even more and don't play anymore. And I didn't really talked with his friends he asked to play with us. So yep, just have to wait or chatting with solo randoms. Sometimes we match the vibes
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DBD has this unique property of giving you the feeling that you have to play again even though ur actually not having fun. In the long term that burns you out.
As long as you are stuck inside it , you feel miserable without even realizing it, once you are out, you are looking back at it and asking yourself why you stayed that long. It's like a bad relationship.
Honestly the best thing you can do imo is take a longer break and then come back with the necessary distance and mindset to enjoy DBD again. Cause let's be real the devs are notoriously slow so even if they would design something like a hardcore mode, it probably won't happen before 2027
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I feel ya im pretty much only gonna hope on for the Halloween event and then dip or just play once in a full moon till the next chapter. Watch Dogs 1 Borderlands 4 Fallout 76 and my Baldurs Gate 3 honor mode playthrough have got me hooked rn no pun intended.
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