Are you planning a nerf on Mettle of Man?
This perk is just broken. I'm hearing the entire community saying how broken it is.
Are you planning to fix it soon? It's hell for M1 killers.
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It sounds powerful on paper but in practice it's mediocre and you'll likely use it once or something.
Flip flop is more of a problem but since it doesn't extend a chase no one cares.
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Nah fam. They don't give two poops about Killers. So my best advice, be a survivor, and join the cause!
Now if something was extremely broken for killer, they will nerf it like they did Freddy and have no regrets.
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"mediocre" that's cute. 4 man SWFs running beautiful builds. Like Flip Flop DS thats been buffed to 5 seconds. MoM and Adrenaline. Free escape city right there. I am currently doing these kinds of builds with my squad. oof RIP M1 killers.
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There gonna buff it so it works on even more stuff like nurse
Hope your ready for another 2 years of free escapes
You don't even have to hit a skillcheck for this one
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You seriously still belive what you say?
You could also use DS once, and just because you have to take 3 hits doesnt mean it's different, it'll just activate later on the game but it'll serve the same purpose...
Also all that trash about "oh just play Billy" and stuff like that... I dont see any killers telling you to play a specific perk/item to destroy something like Ruin... Why do killers have to play a specific character to counter a perk while survivors can counter perks like Ruin, DH, NOED with ANY loadout?
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What are you talking about ?
Survivors are having fun bullying killers.
I dont see a problem.
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Oh but Bro, if you don't like DS don't tunnel or use Enduring. So the devs don't address the gen rush problem and rather make a perk that is a band aid? Clearly they know its an issue and what they gonna do...Nothing.
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It has to be nerfed, It's a free escape with a speed boost for doing nothing.
And If this Bug thing is true that Mclean said and Nurses Blink hits should count towards it, that means any killer without an M2 attack has no way around it.
To anyone saying the perk is fine, Would you be okay with the Killer equivalent?An Instadown on a healthy survivor after hitting them 3 times first, I highly doubt it.
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The developers don't care, so no problem at all!
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Roger that!
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Nah it actually needs to be buffed.
At the moment its bugged such that it doesnt work against some killers
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It's hard to believe that they will "Nerf" it. Survivors and the word nerf don't go well together. You clearly understand how the developers address issues about Killers? Here is a link if you weren't aware already.
But they leave all the bugs. Still crappy totums, still crappy gen rush when playing fair. (going after 1 after the other) Definitely no aid to combat against SWFS. They don't care. Survivors are King and I have come to terms of "if you can't beat em..."
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This perk is the same as the old DS. It rewards the survivor with a free escape for doing... nothing. Even the old DS had a skillcheck they could fail. This perk:
-Has no counter (not even juggling like the old DS).
-The survivor doesn't have to do anything to earn it (not even hit the old DS skillcheck).
-You can't avoid it if the survivor decides to use it (like praying for the survivor to fail the DS skillcheck)
-If the killer mind games the survivor, it rewards the survivor with a free escape.
So it's even stronger than the old DS.
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Mate, be like me and most people who agree with us. Don't put yourself through unnecessary torture that can be aided but will never. Play Survivor, have an ez life.
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"Survivors and the word nerf don't go well together."
Bro are you kidding me?
for christ sake you guys need to just GIT GUD.
If the devs don't like nerfing survivors then ZERO of the changes that have made this game harder on survivors would have happened
Infinites would never have been removed.
Sabo would've never been touched.
Cow Tree would never have been nerfed.
Pallets would never have been reduced.
The exhaustion changes would never have been done.
The healing changes would never have come.
Windows would never have been nerfed.
Shrimp Boat would never have been moved.
Crow Bombs would never have been implemented.
Minimum hooks and minimum distances between hooks would never have happened.
Moon offerings would still be in the game.
Backwater swamp would still have lots of tall grass.
Jungle gyms would still be more plentiful.
Thompson house would never have gotten a hook upstairs.
Macmillan Estates Groaning Warehouse would still be an infinite looping spot.
Maps would never have been made brighter to make it easier on killers.
The following killer reworks would never have happened - Trapper, Hag, Wraith, and soon to be Freddy.
If you can't learn how to adapt and outplay survivors then the only problem is YOU
YES GEN-RUSHING IS A PROBLEM, YES SURVIVORS NEED A SECOND OBJECTIVE, YES SWF IS A TOXIC AND ABUSIVE ASPECT OF THE GAME
But survivors have had it hard too.
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Why do you bring up "using once" as a valid point? You could use old DS "only" once aswell.
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They won't buff it, "it's bugged" and they will "fix" it so it can work as intend. Smh..
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@HeHeBoii Oh I'm aware of how they deal with Killer issues, It's more of very wishful thinking. ๐ Well that and the combination of the player base continuously dropping even with 2 DLC's back to back makes me think they'd want to keep the current players around.
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People said the same thing about DS and it had to be reworked because it broke the balance of the game
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You smoking something! Dev's only nerf survivors into the ground nowadays
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Players in this Forum aren't the entire community BTW.
Don't be mad on me, Just saying a fact.
(idk if it's broken or not YET)
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Huh? Have you played Ormond or Purgation? Those maps are gifts to survivors. Double pallets are back on Coldwind.
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Pls tell me more abouts those lies!
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"Survivors cant be nerfed because it doesnt fit my agenda REEE fake news"
I see maybe two things there that can be considered a bug/exploit if you stretch the definitions to the absolute limit
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Yeah I'll give you that one, infinites should never have existed. But aside from that...pretty much all of those are BALANCE changes
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Dude it's been 2 days...
Even God took 7 days to (supposedly) make all of the universe.
2019 is the "BUT I WANT IT NOW" generation.
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Freddy nerf in 2 days
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Can we please wait atleast 4 days before making "op/up" threads?
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why? would something change on 4 days?
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SWF with all Mettle of Man are unfair if you ask me
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Killers with mori are unfair if you ask me.
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Good thing i never use mori when i play killer thought
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Good thing i never used mori though
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Nah fam. They don't do kneejerk killer nerfs any more. Other than Freddy the only changes that have happened have been buffs. Legion.
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Oh god the same talk was about the alert being OP or Deliverance broken.
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Don't hurt your head thinking too hard now.
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New to the forum this guy is so don't mind em.
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Yes Survivors have it extremely difficult. Swf on voice coms is facing adversity. Yawn
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Itโs just killer mains crying, as usual.
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@Coder everyone that bought the dlc should have it on their main survivor by that time.
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Two days.... it has only been out for two day....
Give time to adapt.
This perk has counters unlike old DS. Yes swf will abuse it like literally everything else...
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Same killer mains and their smurf accounts whining after every PTB and patch that x is broken and op. Then after a week or 2 has passed it's back to DS/DH/AD/ insert w/e perks they want to use as an excuse here.
They whine about AD but they got what they wanted with the SB buff and healing nerf which they were warned about. They got their whined about SB nerf which hit all exhaustion perks, so survivors adapted.
Now they're whining about his before it's even been patched like other perks or with Breakdown/Distortion/Deliverance/Pebble/ every other new perks. The people with common sense realize it'll be a niche perk ocne the shine wears off.
Also once the actual smart and or good killers figure things out they'll have no issues with it. Meanwhile all the whiners will keep on whining about how op everything is instead of simply adapting like they tel brand new survivors to do.
If I had a penny for every whiny killer main rant thread and post on this forum I'd be a millionaire already.
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why are you so vehemently defending a perk that only screws over weaker killers
do you enjoy seeing only billy/nurse because MoM will kill the viability of anything else?
what a joke
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#########? Mori is the counter to SWF bs, if SWF wasnt around moris wouldnt be either. + Moris are consumed, you have to search for them in the bloodweb each time you want to use one...
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thank god, someone finally said it.
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You are full of bs. Every killer knows how to counter this perk, just play Billy, here is the thing... IIdont want to rely on only 1 character to counter 1 perk, that's the problem here. + Why the hell is the killer getting punished if he is doing what he is meant to do? (Apply preassure)
Also, killers never asked for the healing nerf, we asked for genrush since the beginning of the game but we got that instead...
And btw, nobody is complaining anymore about exhaustion perks, they are balanced now.
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The only one full of BS here is you yet again, Spirit , Noed, Bubba, Freddy etc but hey cleanse the totems. Mori's, a lot of you all brag about how many you have.
You're joking right, there's a few banned accounts plus a lot of the killer mains on here have as recently as a week or so ago been whining for a SC nerf. Then before the whole of healing got nerfed there was countless rant threads about nerfing SC and healing in general.
Also don't give me the no ones complaining about Exhaustion perks nonsense anymore, this forum is littered with BL/AD/DH/SB etc threads and posts still.
I've been saying for quite sometime insta heals should have some requirement to use just like SC when I said you shouldn't be able to stop at a pallet and heal then next one.
They're currently looking at doing just that with insta heals or some form of that and why is it that killers can regularly 4k with Bubba/Freddy Huntress etc at red ranks? It's not because the tired old BS excuse the survivors were potatoes.
It's because the killer knows their killer and how to path tiles correctly, when to chase and when not too etc.
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Only powers that can actively deal damage are exempt from triggering MoM. The rest are just bugs.
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But that's okay, that's fine, he deserved it. It was a well thought decision, definetly not based on the bunch of screeching survkids.
Btw. I hope they will "fix" MoM, by making it usable against Nurse and other killers, I've become a survivor main.
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The last SC nerf post was made about middle-chapter Legion and we all know SC was broken with that update...
The only exhaustion perk that killers have been talking about is Adrenaline and it's not because the perk itself is broken, it's because the speed at which gens can be done makes It broken...
You talk about how killers get so many 4k playing Freddy, Bubba but I cant even remember the last time a Freddy or Bubba got a 4k against my SWF team... Playing against those charaters is as simple as saying "hey LF is camping me just gen rush" and Freddy... Come on, do you really have a problem against any good Freddy? You scared of that 7 seconds transition? "Oh but you can mind-game, you can mind-game" the only thing you need is a window and problem solved ๐
Huntress is fairly strong so I dont see why you bring that character to this argument + her power negates MoM, which again... Is not the point of the problem.
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