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Krasue
Most will generally say she's still too strong yet ever since her last nerf she's been hovering around a 46% kill rate. Far below what the devs want killers at. Why do we think that is?
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People are not good at the game. Simple as. Same reason why Nurse never had a good killrate.
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Except Krasue isn't high skill demanding so that comparison to Nurse wouldn't really hold. She's pretty average on skill requirement.
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I wasn't aware that BHVR had released stats for her.
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Been watching Nightlights stats on her since the changes. Prior she was showing too high, but she's crashed in kill rates ever since the last nerfs.
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- She's still a very effective assassin; the only real obstacle is bodyblocking. I simply notice that survivors are learning to counter her, namely by playing in pairs. But if you're alone, she's still very powerful (even considering how easy she is to use).
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Ah, I just don't really trust NightLight to be a good representation of the millions of DBD games happening.
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It's generally in the past tracked pretty close to BHVRs stats
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to be fair its as trusted (or not trusted) as bhvr stats for me. especially since the whole thing of the stats page people see is "different" to what bhvr uses.
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Yeah, but it's a tiny sample size.
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skill issues. she's too weak to bodyblocking her head form.
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It certainly isn't right now. The average KR is about 10% lower on NightLight.
It's also only tracking about 15K games a MONTH. There's probably 15K games taking place an hour.
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Actually no, you're looking at the last kill rate stats they released which are for a different time frame than the current Nightlight stats. You're comparing different time periods.
Stats wise 15k is a very good sample size for most data collections.
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That depends on if nightlight stat contributors represent a sample of the average DBD playerbase (they dont). Its like polling 15k people in one city and saying the responses represent the views of the entire country.
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They've historically been quite accurate even given this. Given BHVRs track record I also find their data even more questionable tbh.
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Bhvr stats are just as untrustable as nightlight stats.
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^ Literally this. They just gave us a 40% tunnel rate lol
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Weren't the Japan stats for September?
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Unlikely.
We can either trust a website that is extremely exclusive and doesn't have a remotely applicable sample size or we can trust the company that holds the stats internally and doesn't like to share.
Neither are good options, but at least one of them has real numbers that aren't totally unusable.
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Unlikely? It's not like Otz just demonstrated to all of us when killers get the option to abandon the game doesn't count towards official stats.
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She definitely got killed againts good teams that bodyblock 24/7 for each other, but against soloq she is a monsters.
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No, if you look in the fine print below the Japan stats for it's time frame it was a years worth of stats. If it was just Sept we could compare it to Nightlight, but it's not.
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Well that's what I was thinking as well but soloq and bad players make up the majority so if anything this rational would have her kill rate high as the average group wouldn't be able to pull off the body blocks.
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NightLight has been historically lower than the actual KR's. If you recall, this was a major controversy because everyone thought the stats were around 50-55%, and BHVR released stats showing that KR's were closer to 60-65%.
Unfortunately, you are correct in that NightLight isn't on any archive website and they only hold stats for three months. We have no way of knowing.
However, considering the historical understatements and tiny sample size, NightLight isn't a real source of information. Maybe it could be used to establish broad trends, but nothing specific. The only thing you can conclude from the Krasue data is that she's weaker post-nerfs, which is exactly what we hoped for.
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Might as well say every killer is a monster against soloq...
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And Survivor Abandons boost Escape Rates to the moon since it doesn't count as a Kill.
It's entirely possible that BHVR is just lazy and didn't want to put that into their stat tracker, but that they still have the data internally. In all likelihood, that counts AGAINST NightLight, because they have zero way to account for that AND since Survivor Abandons are vastly more common (nobody wants to watch the Finisher Mori), that is driving down the KR's, meaning NightLight is even more out of touch.
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I played her few times after her last nerf and she is kinda ok in my opinion she is now even weaker than ghoul in my opinion because she has only one thing better than him and thats 1v1 but also her most strongest counter to her is survivors which are uninfected bodyblocking her head form in chase against infected survivor which gives her two options first is hit that uninfected survivor 3 times and infect him but for me better is switch back to m1 and ifect him then go head form and chase the bodyblocker or catch up to the first one you chased with flight, very solid stronger a-tier not the most balanced killer but not busted as before and her vault in head form is now not so strong either plus swf with good coordination can delay her quite a lot with bodyblocks which is thing killers like ghoul,dracula or larry,twins can deal better and catch up same or even faster because they dont loose momentum when switching between forms (dracula can but thats smaller than krasue plus he has more tools that have higher skill ceiling but can also deal with more stuf), here autoaim for her infection seems tuned down the bits of her spit dont fly so high and far as they did before I think.
From what was devs stand for her she was meant to be stronger killer (the unique hook bonuses in first antitunnel patch she was there pointed between strongest killers with mobility and catch up even the fact she was there weaker in ptb than her released first version into live), now she is still stronger killer but if its what devs wanted she is then ok and there are above her bigger monsters in terms of power.
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This isn’t what I’ve seen when comparing their KRs historically. However putting that aside and referencing your statement on broad trends, they’ve also generally had killers in nearly the same kill rate ordering as bhvr, such as looking at most lethal killers. So even if we ignore % and just ordering Krasue is still “far down”. Even if we be extremely generous with the % and add the highest kill discrepancy to their % and assume they’re undershooting her, she is still below their kill goals.
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True but but nurse is just whole abaout her power and krasue has more limits in chase and counters even if the player is good, now I would say ghoul is about same on skill requirement but has more leverage against things like bodyblocks or catching up, dealing with endurance and other things than her.
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bhvr was so clueless about how to nerf her, they basically listened to random comments on reddit and rush nerfed her. She has no pressure now cause of survivors losing infection after unhook. Crying cause of tunnel potential yet there is a big outcry right now that pinhead cant tunnel anymore in the latest PTB.
Double standard much
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Yeah I’m just saying that Nurse is held back on stats because of her skill requirement but Krasue doesn’t have this. So her kill stats should be more accurate like most killers unlike Nurse who’s kill stats don’t really paint the whole picture.
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Because nurse is not 115 speed, you see the slower killer is the more powerfull power mostly chase one he needs to deal with loops like spirit,chucky but nurse can only be played with her power not as 110 or 115 killer and this makes her kills on average lower than blight or trapper,ghostface and her power is not the easiest to use but not hardest tbh (atleast for me).
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That doesn't seem to be true either.
Taking the most recent stats from Japan showing KR (in order, without numbers), the order is completely different. These were taken over a month, from August-September 2025, which means we have a direct NightLight comparison.
Here's the breakdown.
Official BHVR Stats:
Vecna
Freddy
Sadako
Dredge
Pig
Twins
Blight
Ghoul
Skull Merchant
Oni
Now, for NightLight (plus how many games were submitted):
Blight (355)
Oni (146)
Vecna (160)
Artist (77)
Freddy (101)
Dredge (98)
Doctor (127)
Ghoul (411)
Unknown (169)
Dracula (163)
There is only one Killer in the same position, that being Ghoul. Artist, Unknown, Dracula and Doctor don't even appear on BHVR's stats. I could play 100 games in a month with Doctor and get a 90% KR, but that wouldn't be statistically significant, would it?
NightLight just isn't a reliable source for information, except for extremely broad trends. Not even for positional placement of Killers in a KR list.
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Right, I just don’t see what this has to do with Krasue
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The whole reason for pinhead being worse is because of his license holder cutting his contract with bhvr and as repay they will nerf him he has not so huge part of comunity likeing him as demogorgan where was more possible he would come back and another potencial for further teamwork or another licensed dlc ahead of as, tell who survivors see more with exitement demogorgan or pinhead i think the answer is pretty clear.
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That's definitely not true what lmao???
BHVR isn't nerfing Pinhead as revenge for the license holder not renewing the contract.0 -
That means her power logicaly has to be weaker which is the truth. Nurse is still easier against good swifts than krasue (good swifts arent playing against nurses with frost eyes chasing you as m1 that make her low kill rate possible).
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They diffinitely do because his whole nerf doesnt make sence (only the reason for his addon but thats like all).
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Where's your proof?
The nerf doesn't make sense because they are bad at design, not because they are out to get Pinhead in revenge for the license holder
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Do you think they would admit it officialy? dont be clueless thats not how it works.
His chains only slow you for 3-5 seconds if he hits them good so they dont instabreak as they spawn and your teammate can break them with his body even killer can (which sucks because is the same crap desing like trapper steping into his own traps, punishement for power that is weak as hell yeah his chains are weak strongest thing in his kit is cube and chainhunt not his chains he has to hit manualy) so this means he can hit you but what killer cant and it wont stop bodyblocking than much. I understand his addon change (even the new effect is just copy of his other addon which is lame but ok pretty good job style thing) but to his basekit it doesnt make any logical sence.
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Conspiracy theory with zero proof. Of course, how could I be so clueless.
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I just the theory that gives biggest sence compare to your "oh its just mistake that has point" but i value your cluesness if still think they would have enough courage to call it out.
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I already told you those Japan stats are from a year and you're comparing them to a month on Nightlight. Of course they're not going to match. This isn't an accurate comparison. You're comparing stats that were being gathered under different patches.
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ThIs is such a weird theory. How does this benefit BHVR at all? This would only make their fan base mad for no reason (and there's enough of that already). The license holder isn't going to care if a game character gets nerfed. This sort of vendetta could only make sense if the license holder stood to loose money somehow.
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I think they are incompetent, not malicious.
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As I stated in my reply, these particular stats were gathered over a month.
8-15-2025 - 9-15-2025
This is the NightLight patch I am using.
As you can see, they are clearly directly comparable.
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The only things that is still making Krasue obnoxious to play against is the insta-attack while transforming, and her spammable M2 in normal Body Form.
And she is still very strong when running Dissolution and Bamboozle, due to the ever present free HugTech™0 -
Ah what threw me off was all the rest of Japans stats were from different time frames. You are correct then these are very different.
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I have no idea why they wanted to use the same group of year long stats for everything else, but then use a month for these, so the confusion is perfectly understandable.
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I dont know anything about stats and how accurate they are, but I think that krasue isn't as good as some people make her. She's 100% a strong killer for sure, but she takes too long to do things.
Her antiloop isn't actually overpowered. It's very strong but has clear counterplay in many loops. It's definitely not a free hit. In killer shack for example, when that pallet is dropped, it's impossible to outplay it. You need to go back into the head form, break the pallet, and then return to chasing.
The flight used for catchup is the strongest part of her kit. But it's not ideal because the survivor in question has to be infected to actually start getting hits (unless they're caught in some kind of garbage deadzone with no windows allowing you to hit them with the knife). Since curing the infection is so easy now, especially with the removal on hook, you're basically reinfecting almost each chase. Which is not a huge deal because infection is relatively easy to get with the ricochet and good aim.
The problem is if the survivors are efficient with the gens, it's hard to put the matching pressure on them when they also keep cleansing the infection. You can't really do a hit and run playstyle with this killer because of that infection mechanic, that's her biggest weakness. Sometimes you actually have to slug just to keep that infection going because of the hook penalty. Take the better killers like ghoul for example. They can use their power to get hits immediately and don't have to worry about conditions to using the power.
This is not even considering the bodyblocking.
She's a mid-low A tier killer imho, which is a very good place to be in but not that impressive.
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I actually got caught up in my rant I forgot to discuss the question. My apologies. The killer is just not easy to play. She has a low-medium skill floor to play sure, but to really perform on her you need to be good at killer in general. Looping, aiming, game sense. Her mechanics may be simple but the aiming is actually not easy outside of a loop and to me she requires great killer game sense to snowball. You also do need to mindgame at loops even with the third person view.
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