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1v4 matchmaking has been wild since 2v8 started
in my last 30 matches
24 escapes, 4 deaths, 2 killer disconnects (both killer dcs were going to be 4 outs; also i made no use of the abandon feature
the killers in these 30 matches have only gotten 32 kills total (i also count survivor dcs as kills)
what is going on? lol
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Well most casual Players are hopping to 2v8.
That explains why most survivors go down in 10 seconds or try to camp pallets instead of looping.
So you are stucked with good survivors.
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Swf teams and players that are more interested in winning most of their matches with meta perks usualy stay in the 1v4 while the rest go to the casual 2v8 mishmash party mode where you dont have to bring anything and doesnt matter who you play since you dont need offerings. I experienced the killer side of that. First team i got was 3 legacy skin survivors which i was able to get 1 down in 4 gens and got flashbanged twice just trying to pick them up lol
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This is just a perfect showcase of how many casual survivors there are in this game, complaining over nothing, destroying the game in the process. Cause all those casuals now go to 2v8 to do their quests etc, and suddenly you are left with all the decent survivors in 1v4 (cause they know better). Go figure!
OPs description was alrdy the case for me for the last year, I quit playing survivor cause its boring/easy, and quit playing killer cause… do I even need to explain? Play ghoul, everbody DC's. Play trapper, get destroyed. imo DBD is at a pivotal point in its history. if BHVR doesn't correct course fast, I fear the worst.
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I don't think its complaining over nothing, there is a lot of crazy stuff in this game which wouldn't exist in any other Live Service multiplayer game that DBD enables. There is stuff on both sides that needs addressing, it just doesn't help when people ignore valid complaints with no logic or reason.
I think the game will continue to have players due to it being so unique, regardless of what happens, they'd have to literally make it unplayable for it to stop.2 -
The only reason DBD keeps a stream of new players is cause BHVR keeps ignoring all the issues and keep pumping out content, which looks interesting for ppl who are not in the know. The balance of this game is completely survivor sided, and more to come…
Its hilarious to me that suddenly EVERY SINGLE content creator goes public on their opinion, says out loud that its a survivor sided game :D lmao, youtube is flooded with these opinion vids now. Even Otz and hens are now heavily on that side.
But yeh, again, its new players that dont know all these issues that come in, play for a 100 hours and come to the same conclusion. Even I am passionate about dbd (read: addicted), unwilling to let go. At least in the sense that I am still on this forum trying to make the game better while I dont play.
I will especially not play now because of 2v8, but its funny at the same time that it lays bare all the issues that OP describes. All the good survivors stay in 1v4, making it blatantly obvious where the balance of the game lies. No matter how much ppl want it, you cant fix tunneling/slugging/camping without heavy repercussions on the other end. You literally cannot fix behaviour of players. You would need to massively motivate them to play in a different way.
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The way matchmaking works is that accuracy is thrown out the window the longer it takes to make up a lobby. With the playerbase split between two modes, with 2v8 undoubtedly getting the bulk of players, I'd say the matchmaking is barely working
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If you're a casual 1V4 player, there's never a better time to boot up a game of Civilization instead of DBD. Just forget about the main mode altogether if you don't want to sweat because all the other casuals will be in 2V8. Normally I'd be joining them, but I'm skipping this one to take a break since my Killer main is in exile.
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Mostly yes there isnt much busted bully options in 2v8 as are in 1v4 and another huge thing is even if you bulyed one killer by saving your friend that much the other killer would went there and knocked you off which isnt fun for sweats and bullyes(survivors that want to have fun by just saving other from killer and dont know how frustrating and unfun it is, this doesnt happen much in 2v8 flashlights are rng, no perks to help with pulling saves and killers are two and stronger especialy the better ones so they can deal with it in peice plus more targets to deal with they can just hit you and leave you to go for someone else which these types of survivors dont bare well they are mostly like sables all atttention has to be focused on them).
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Last BloodMoon was, again, another evt that was a HUGE waste of time.
Offering don't stack and only increase the specific scores for evt actions.
BUT this one evt had something unique that was the blood gens being complete trash to farm BP because they barely gave any BP for anything you had to do to repair them.
This made me play the entire evt on regular 1v4 and these were the best matches I had in solo queue EVER exactly because of that. Only good survs were playing 1v4 while the casual, new and /or stupid players were playing with the blood gens.
Also there's a difference in being casual and stupid and in solo queue you find A LOT of the latter.-2 -
You are tempting me back to soloq if there are actually some decent players in 1v4 right now.
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I played as Freddy in 1v4 to end my evening yesterday. We got The Game Meat Plant map, I got put up against a P300 squad with a 96 rounding out the 4. Pallet-nightmare map, meta perks, and I lost in about 10-ish minutes with no kills.
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I mean i waited 8 minutes for a 1v4 match only to get a cheating cladette that teleported everywhere and went out of bounds . After that waste of time i just went back to 2v8
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Now that you mention it, I played a batch of killer matches that were pretty sweaty across the board a couple days ago. One had a Jane with a full sabo build and a toolbox. She saboed a good 10 hooks. I had to keep dropping people. One of my most hard-earned 4ks of recent memory. I would have rather just lost in a less annoying match.
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I stayed in 1 vs 4 and had extremely terrible lose streak as surv (but I played at night). Killer level is alway way higher in 1vs4 now
Tho I’m pretty sure, 2vs8 is meant to be unserious and casual. So current ordinary matches is for more serious plays
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It pretty much went like this:
Chased 1st survivor I found, he runs thru pallet, I break pallet, get flashlight stunned. Next,
he runs thru pallet, I break pallet, I get flashlight stunned.
He runs thru pallet, I break pallet, I get flashlight stunned, I hear a gen finish. I switch to another survivor lingering, and
he runs thru pallet, I break pallet, I get flashlight stunned. I caught up enough for a hit,
he runs thru pallet, I break pallet, get flashlight stunned, another gen pops.
Rinse wash and repeat. I got 2 hooks and no kills. Just pallet and light bombed.
Totally not a survivor sided game, though.
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Not only worst bloodmoon event for blood points but the entire event was so survivor sided all you had to do as survivor was 1 normal gen and then blood gens that were 2.5x-3x times faster than normal ones, killer prks for gens didnt work or powers so it was gg ez against pig very bad event indeed.
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This is why I run Lightborn like it's basekit.
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Okay that was a mistaken assessment. I played one soloq match, was the first one hooked, was left on hook until I died, got 5k points.
Back to killer I go.
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You have to cater to casuals because they bring in quite a lot of money. This game wouldn't exist without them. I just wish they could balance in such a way that the game still felt decent when playing against very good survivors even if you weren't playing a top tier killer.
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Whenever 2v8 is available, 1v4 turns into hard/sweat mode.
I've went to 1v4 to play Vecna and was matched against survivor winstreaks ( one of them was a very well known streamers SWF doing streaks) and very solid players. Also, seems like cheaters are much more prevalent in the 1v4 if the queues are longer.
For survivor, i get a little bit of everything: from Hard Tunneling clowns (which we would win if people didn't instar age quit at the start of the game) to baby Nemesis.
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I understand there is a little frustrations in the current killer experience but i think flashlight are something needed to learn how to play around. Depending on the killer you are playing, you can use their powers to search the area and look for a possible pallet/flash save, like Houndmaster or Singularity. If you are playing a very strong killer you can just eat the stun and restart the chase, like Blight, Nurse or Krasue.
Since the changes on the flashbangs and background player, i think flash saves are quite less problematic than before.
But yeah, its quite lame. Bully squad are a lot more prevalent during this time, specially because they know that due to the lack of survivor in queues they will be matched with anyone available, most of them people with less hours than them. And specially now that survivor is stronger than even with the pallet density update.
EDIT: Just now i've realized you are talking about being blinded, not flash save. Either way, my point still stands: we need to learn how to play around flash saves as killers, since they still grant some risk to survivors.
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