Something needs to Change!
I am very unhappy with how the Game works.., here are some aspects of it, which (I) think needs to change, maybe others feel the same Way.
I edited this Post, because i realized that the ''Remove all Perks / Items + Addons won't really fix the Issue, that's why i posted now another solution, which wasn't my Idea, it was an idea posted in my Discussion from the user @Rickprado
They need to bring in a better Anti Cheat Software, i can't really say but this EAC isn't really this good.
Like someone suggested in my Post down below, they need to bring in some Server-Sided Anti Cheat.
What it should change? It should directly catch those which really cheat in that exact moment.
How it should work i dunno. But i bet there are many other and better Anti Cheat Softwares out there, maybe also pay for it instead of use a Free Version of it.., like i have the feeling with the now EAC.
Also another thing which needs to change is the use of VPN.., or the abuse of high Pings, i cannot tell or say how to fix it, but maybe there should be more servers? Ping is such a great Game Changer..
and Like i said if someone opens the Game with VPN or VPN active, it should not work to play.
It's also just my thought on it.
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I think there are far too many aura perks in the game now. Huntress doesn't even need to look to find a survivor, she opens a locker, hits a gen, waits for a great skill check etc. it is a little overkill, but when you run out of ideas (see every killer in the last year for examples) then aura reading it is.
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they should probably just remove the Perks and Addons which give Aura Readings or revamp that system completely..
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Just make it that you can see that your aura is revealed. Why? Easy if you remove all Aura reading hackers can still see your aura. But if the game tells you your aura is red permanently you are playing vs a cheater.
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Such thing wouldn't even work because of undetected cheats…
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We have such a system in 2v8 and it kinda works if people would look out for it.
But removing all aura perks won´t solve the problem either. You can still cheat them in.
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yeah, that's my point there, if you remove all Aura Reading Perks + Addons = you will exactly know if someone cheated.., I had right now a Match against a Ghoul Cheater; He used; Lethal Persuer, Friends 'Til The End, Dead Man's Switch and Lightborn, he just had one addon equipped; Broken Chain, he jumped at me and i got 50% slow, from where the hell do these 50% come from!?he didn't have had anything equipped which could do that and 50% slow? ######### is way to much! (I) say remove all Aura Perks + Addons, so you'll know when someone is cheating!
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and no this would not work, because ''Cheats'' are not programmed into the Game, if they were sure i'll agree with you, but just then.
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I will tell you this again. If you say my plan doesn´t work yours won´t either.
If all Aura reading perks got removed you won´t know if the killer found you by "crows, noises, just luck" or by cheats.
It´s the same thing bhvr didn´t understand with the cap on Bloodpoints to stop cheaters to give them self unlimited BPs. But I tell you what cheaters won´t spend their time in the Bloodweb.
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i really whis i could understand your suggestion but it won't work, and (I) am very sure that my option would work, (I) say remove all Aura Reading Perks + Addons, it will surely help to fix most of the cheater issue; sure you're right there are several other Perks like ''I'm all Ears'' but even this Perk is kinda related to ''Aura Reading'' so it'll get removed aswell.., the only thing which should stay in the Game is ''Killer Instinct'', nothing more nothing less!
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they could probably at first test this with a certain ''Game Mode'' something like ''Light's Out'' just without the Darkness and without any Aura Perks + Addons allowed.
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Yeah and after removing all aura perks, remove all haste perks so that you can´t subtle cheat speed in the game.
After that we will take out gen regression and endurance perks because cheaters could change the numbers to them.
Then we remove haste so that we know that no one has faster recovery.
You see where this is going?
You can´t remove things out of the games to "find" cheaters or you need to remove everything.
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yeah, exactly this! this needs to go, because of such things like this they'll ''exploit'' / ''cheat'' it, they need to change many things in the Game, and sorry not all players are competitive players, i stand up for the most ''Casual Players''.
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Yeah but you need to remove everything for your plan to work.
If cheaters are your concern as you claim than it is not enough to remove aura perks.
You need to remove items because you will never know if they really got that amount of charges in it.
You need to remove Killer powers or do you count every evil incarnate by myers to see if it is slightly longer?
You need to remove gens speeds on toolboxes and perks or cheaters could make them faster.
As you see you won´t stop cheaters if aura perks get removed.
Thats the reason why my attempt is better. If you get a notification that the killer sees you you can look out for an arua perk. If there is none and the killer goes straight into your corner of the map yeah you can start to get suspicious.
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it's not that i am not with you in that regard, but please tell me how it should work? the Cheats they're using are ''external'' / ''third party - software'', if you could explain it to me more, maybe i would understand what you are referring to? if you don't mind explaining it to me/all?
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Probably you suggest to make it same as in 2v8 where you know your aura is revealed, this is not bad as some demand here to compleatly destroy aura perks but in reality they arent the strongest ones and even huntress or nurse with full aura reading build is nowhere near the same nurse or huntress with full slowdown build.
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so if i am correct y'all mean;
Instead of Perks and Items + Addons, just the classes we have from 2v8? or am i wrong about that?
If yes, this is a Great idea, to have the class system in 1v4, but again i am asking, how should this help?
I just want some clarification on that, because i cannot see, how this should help in identify who is cheating and who not?
because as (I) already said, the Cheats they use are ''Third Party - Software'' = ''External''.
I am against no one in here, but i just want some ''real meant answers'' instead of the Troll who tries to trigger me in some way.
If someone is able to clarify more about how it should work, i am very glad and open to read it, maybe i am even able to edit my First Post, but i cannot write or have discussions with Forum Members who just try to be ''clownish'' about everything instead of communicate normally with eachother.
I feel very wrong placed in this Forum, because (I) know how ''Toxic'' this community is.
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I can understand her, i mean i don't know any other Game which honestly gives you ''Free Wallhacks'' in form of Perks/Items + Addons. it should not be in a Game not any single one, as i also agree with the Person who said that there are far to many Aura Perks, which is also kinda not fun to play against. It takes out the Fun if i am being honest and it just upset's others.., this Game could be so much Fun.., but (I) think Aura Perks/Items + Addons destroy the whole ''Horror'' feeling.., Dead by Daylight just feels like a competitive Game now, because of all the Aura Readings we have and (I) really think this should not be. What about all the ''Casuals'' out there? does no one really care? BHVR certainly does not..
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Aura perks are in the game since nurse came into it from 2017 but i get it and there is no need to remove them just make same as in 2v8 where you know you are being revealed but then what about perks that should reveal you like alien instinct where the whole point of that perk is to show the killer most further injured survivor and help him to sneak up on then then those perks shouldnt be revealed with aura effect or nowhere to hide same,nurses shoud be suprise perks but i dont think this will change soon.
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There are a whole lot more aura perks now and I don't think it's all that helpful. I don't think they're going to be reduced anytime soon though.
I had a suggestion to create a type of Footprint trail aura where we could transition some of the perks into, and leave others that are more core. I feel like that would fit the theme of dbd more than the way players are just completely highlighted.
Regarding wallhacking cheaters…I don't think they're a huge problem tbh.
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Not everyone speaks english as a first language
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Not because i want to be rude or something, but if you knew how much cheaters i play against you would probably understand, i even reached out to BHVR several times that i have the ''feeling'', that i am always matched with some cheaters regardless of when i'm playing Killer or Survivor, the sad thing is; (I) myself don't count me as a ''Pro-Player'' but highly advanced one. and if i see that the Killer is always coming to someone of my members or to me and i see in endgame Chat their Perks + Addons where there is no Aura Perks/Addons.., it's just really frustrating. Or examples like Killer has Barbecue and Chili…, i say my m8s before i get hooked they should hide and they do.., without running or rushing into that locker and i get hooked after they're in the locker and the killer knows exactly in which lockers they are.., is highly sus., no Perk like Whispers either..
I don't even know why (I) even do report them to BHVR when they don't even do something about it.., it's just frustrating.., and also like i said this Game just feels in the Favor of Competitive Players atm instead of also Casual Players.., maybe i am wrong about that but it's really getting annoying over time.0 -
Hackers don't use the in-game aura reading effect, but a software that tells the position of your character model in map - with many other things like totems, other survivors and even chests. Hackers wouldn't be caught in this never ever because they never use aura perks, just the tools of their cheating programs.
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So it won´t make a difference to remove aura perks?
Thats my point by the way.
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it would definitely help, because of this: when there is no Aura Perks/Items or Addons, it's easy to tell.
Sure Killers have ''Killer Instinct'' and we all know how it works.., so Killer Instinct is fine to stay.., Aura Readings is a big NO GO in any Game. It's like giving out ''Free Wallhacks'' nothing more nothing less. A Game should not base on ''Wallhacking'' it's just not the right thing to do, because then everyone can point towards their Perks and Gaslight others with it. But maybe (I) am alone in this kind of regard.0 -
So we remove the red stain from Killers aswell?
Cause it is like a big sing yelling the Killer is facing this way behind the wall.
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It is an Aura right? so YES! it's not even needed if we all are really honest about it.., another fact by the way.., it's not working on every Wall.., the so called ''red stain'' is just there for Survivors to know when the Killer is able to ''hit'' them, because if the red stain is little behind you they could land a hit, so it's not needed.
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I don't understand if i got your point correctly, but It would only harm legit players since they would be the only affect by aura effects being warned to survivors. We would end in a world where cheaters could still abuse their cheats and people who play fair with aura builds would need to change/stop playing. It would be a lose-lose situation for legit players.
TL;DR: removing aura perks only harm legit players, not cheaters.
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I am on your side aswell with your "TL;DR:" but how would it be avoidable? If not removing Aura Perks + Items and Addons on both sides? How are we able to really be 100% sure about if we got cheated away, because most players still point towards their Perks / Items + Addons, to Gaslight others that they didn't, even if it was obvious.., how would we as community avoid it? I didn't read anything helpful since yet only that it harms legit Players.., which i understand by the Way. But how would we fix it? If not in removing Aura Perks + Items and Addons on both sides? I am not here to harm any player in any way with what (I) am suggest BHVR should do. But it would be possibly the only way to solve it, if not anyone else has any other Idea.
I know it's hard for all legit players, but something needs to be done, or else we will never be "really" able to tell.
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But in the end, it wouldn't change for cheaters as they could argue it was "game sense" or they saw a glimpse of the other side to act. People accuse other players in this game of cheating for almost no reason: a good read on the killer, a good hatchet throw, etc etc.
It would be the same as removing Hope, MFT and Play with your food from the game and cheaters would still be able to go at 4.1 or 4.7 without too much trouble, since these speeds are hard to grasp without too much experience and game sense.
Removing things from the game wouldn't affect cheaters at all since they could still gashlight people without too much effort even without perks. The only right move would punish people with tons of Free Epic Game accounts - BHVR NEED TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS - and better anti-cheat software. A server-side anticheat detection would be very good too. The server should detect people teleporting and ban their accounts as this is not possible in the normal without very specific conditions.
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See? about such things i was talking about, this is also a great Idea, but sadly it does not just affect Epic Games accounts, it's also Steam accounts, yeah they definitely need a better Anti Cheat Software, because this sucks, really hard what they're using atm, they also need more Servers and need to cut the use of VPN use in Game.., i hate these Ping abusers aswell
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I edited my Post above, maybe y'all like @Rickprado's Idea more than mine?
Except the VPN thing, which was my Idea.0
