Regarding changes to DBD

while i agree with the stance of if its not fun then dont play…. what good would a beginner mode be if pros could hop into beginner mode and have their merry way with the new players? pro killers or pro survivors v new killer player or new survivor wont go well.

if what your saying is to make it so pros cant join the beginner mode then what your really asking for is a ranked system?

Funny. I uninstalled the game about 2 years ago (just before chunky came out) for exactly the same reason as survivor main. When I started to play the game, the average escape rate was about 55%. Now target kill rate is 60% and the game clearly shows it even today…

Until that changes (or until hook density does not return to pre-background player era - as sabotaging was one of the big highs for me), I am not reinstalling the game. Also I have north of 2K hours so not a beginner

My original post was too long and honestly a bit too much ( was a bit frustrated honeslty lol).

The game wont die, I played a little before Legion and new part was released. As a killer main at the time you can probably see why I quit DBD for many years. Legion was actually my first DLC purchase and is still my favourite killer in all of dbd hands down. Although I use the power more for hardcore parkour zoom-zoom over injuring. Cause after playing maining survivor side upon returning to the game. It's made me fully understand how annoying certain killer powers are. Thus I try to make my playing killer more enjoyable for survivors whilst having fun myself.

The fact is, Survivor mains just want to play the game. Where as Killer mains want to secure a 4k + mori. It's why slugging is a thing. Slugging is doesn't happen because it's "fun". It exists out of desperation to deny hatch and secure that mori.

Tell me, if you were a survivor… Would you:

A) Crawl to a corner until you bleed out -or- are found by the killer.

B) Pick yourself up and continue participating in the match (injured).

You tell me which one is more enjoyable as a gameplay loop. Assuming you put yourself in the shoes of a survivor main.

Mate, all survivors want, is to feel like they can still participate in the match. Seriously, I don't give two-hoots about anti-tunneling and honestly I don't believe you actually give a damn about that either cause you'll be off chasing another survivor and creating gen pressure. I also don't agree with the boosts to gen repair speed like before.

Straight up all I want is to just be able to pick myself up if I am slugged. It's not even that I want to be "able to pick myself up really". It's more so that I want the killer to put me on hook. Why? As I stated above the meta for killers is to slug the second last or more survivors in order to deny hatch and secure the 4k. This way, the killer is playing with fire, okay slug but if I get up… That gives me a fighting chance and if you come back to slug… then the other survivor has a fighting chance. It forces the killer to hook one or the other in some cases and gives the last survivor a fighting chance for hatch. If that isn't fair then I don't know what to tell ya because hatch literally equals a tie via mmr.

EDIT* I already saw the down votes coming, no response just downvotes for the original post. Usually see that cause I am right but again. Ego would have others go, no you and then down vote with no counter argument hehehe. Oh well…

Mate that

I hear this ridiculous illogical comparison every single time. The writing is on the wall and you'd think they would see it but nope. Narrow is the mind.

The fact survivors have to rely on 3 others to play well makes playing survivor harder. If you think survivor is more relaxing than you are rarely playing survivor and you are playing at the lower mmr where most killers are either goofing off or genuinely deranking… You can't tell me versing a sweaty kaneki is "relaxing" lmao.

To win as a survivor you need to play well, not just try. Majority of my games go from 1-2 gens left into a loss and sometimes I don't even see the match get past 4 gens. Why? All because one survivor died or made a mistake. The moment the game becomes a 3v1 the game often spirals into a unhook, heal, rinse and repeat gameplay loop. Sometimes you get some players who still do gens but again, usually in solo queue it's hard to find a teammates that rotate off hook effectively. Literally this happens even if the killer nearly throws the whole match.

Quite literally as a killer you can make several mistakes but if the survivor side makes one blunder… You can still win the game. I mean I don't know what you are calling "nonsense". You can't even point or reference a single thing I said. Your counter argument is not even a counter-argument it's literally the no you thing i predicted. You know why that is, it's cause I am right. lol

Think about it, logically, if you have a team… It appears easier but you gotta remember. There is no communication via comms for most (Majority is solo queue). So you literally are just blind, deaf and dumb to what the others are thinking and just praying they are half decent to last at minimum 30 seconds in a chase. Oh and you hope they wont throw every single pallet under the sun making the game virtually impossible to win in the later phase of the match.

Where as a killer not only has the power of BHVR pushing for a 60% win rate but also you have yourself to rely on. Meaning if you make a mistake, it's on you. You don't have to worry about the rng of another random teammate messing with your strategy… Don't try me lol, I M1 Skullmerchant for fun cause I like her cosmetics and mori. If you want you show me how relaxed you are in your matches. If you want, post it here a recording of your relaxed gameplay. I'd genuinely like to see how good of a looper you are and how competent the killers are in your matches. If I am wrong, I am wrong. Although something tells me you are fronting harder than a man who drives a truck. Brownie points if you actually drive a truck.

The same argument can be made that having 3 other survivors you don't know and have zero communication can also be stressful. You can say that because the killer only relies on themselves it is less stressful. Although, I'm not wrong. My point follows logic and a sound mind. Killer is by far less stressful when a Survivor is one of four that has zero communication with others and has to just hope they don't make a bunch of mistakes. You as the killer are in control of your ability to make mistakes. I as a survivor have zero control over how good my teammates are, which by definition shows why survivor roles is harder.

Prior to responding to this I just had a match. Where I did very well. I did gens and got hit only once during the handful of chases with dredge. He kept leaving to apply pressure and not waste time, smart. I was having a good game but two survivors had died by the time I got last gen done. One of which was straight up immediately tunneled off hook. I unhooked the last survivor knowing that the dredge would just teleport and initiate chase. What I didn't realize in being a good teammate cause I was so used to 2v8… Was I forgot about NOED among other perks and immediately was put in the downed position with no chance at a chase or anything.

Reflecting on that, it straight up goes to the idea that once one survivor is dead. The game spirals into a unhook, heal, rinse and repeat scenario. I do my best to balance this with gens otherwise it's game over but most survivors don't do this very well. It's hard to coordinate in a team when there is zero communication lol. Actually it proves my point how choosing to do gens with 3 survivors left actually led to the 3rd player dying and that resulted in one survivor on hook and the other to unhook. All the killer had to do was wait for an unhook and they secured a 4k because of it. I don't see how waiting for the third survivor to die on hook or secure a 4k via the unhook is stressful. Had I waited for them to die on hook. The killer by default wins with a 3k via the mmr system. So even if I found hatch that only secures me a tie, not a win. In fact I'd go as far to say it's more stressful for me because I have an opportunity to salvage the tie compared to the killer who already won via the 3k and is just looking to secure a meaningless mori. Which has no impact on the win condition.

Mind you, you'll find that when people who are wrong go so far down that rabbit-hole… it's practically impossible for them to see reason. So I don't expect you to see the writing on the wall but I am right.