Adjusted Tiles Post 9.3.0

They just listen to those who complain most and obey every pathetic braindead demand they make.

We need old BHVR back, the BHVR that did what they saw as best without sifting through the swamp of biased people and attempting to appease everyone.

I really appreciate that BHVR is trying to listen, but I think they listen way too much.

skillfully directing pallets to hit the Killer directly.

And what skill shall the killer be focusing on?

Previously, some maps allowed for a 5gen chase just by mindlessly touring the pallets

If you let yourself be lead arund like this that's on you. Learn when to drop chase.

You are spot on with your post here. I wish BHVR would listen way less than they currently do, because they seem to listen, but not really process what they are listening to. Back then people complained that BHVR would not listen and back then they already listend, they just did not blindly follow the biggest complainers.

If we just look at what happened in the past months, it is honestly a Joke:

They tried to implement meaningful Anti-Tunnel and Anti-Slugging changes TWICE. They pulled it back both times because people complained massively and brainlessly. The right solution would have been to push the initial changes to Live with punishments for tunneling and benefits (not just BPs, but actual gameplay-benefits) for not tunneling. And then work from there, like reducing the punishments if needed and/or increasing the benefits - but this only works if people can actually play under those changes and adapt to them. And basically all what was left from all of this was a Nerf to OTR (a Perk which did not need a Nerf in the first place, even tho this is a minor issue since 40 seconds is still long, but still a Nerf) and 5 seconds of extra Haste after Unhook.

They implemented Fog Vials as a new Item and instead of just letting people play with them for a bit and see if they are actually problematic or Killers would just need to get used to them and new-toy syndrom wearing off, they butchered the new Survivor Item basically immediatly and now nobody is using Fog Vials at all. And since they also managed to nerf Keys and Maps in the same Patch (imagine making the worst Items on the Survivor Side even worse), this resulted in:

• Chests now even being less viable to open so that even more Survivors will just stick to Gens, since you get more garbage in Chests now
• A fun and balanced Perk like Dramaturgy being worse because you can now get more garbage
• And the Bloodweb cluttered with even more Junk than before, while the Survivor Bloodweb actually NEEDS an overhaul because there is so much useless stuff in it on top of the sheer amount of different Bloodweb Items (that they also nerfed Syringes recently on top of that… Some people call it a Buff, but it is obviously a Nerf since healing over time is stronger than getting rid of Exhaustion, the only difference is that with the latter you actually see it happening as Killer, while healing over time was not something you would usually notice)

And last but not least the Pallet Density Update - SOME Maps had Deadzones and those Deadzones NEEDED to be addressed. But other maps which were completely fine also got changed - they added a load of Pallets but also nerfed the Tiles themselves making them weaker or removed some Windows from Main Buildings or some Breakable Walls. But instead of just reverting it to the previous state (which BHVR btw. NEVER does, whenever they messed up, they try to make it better just to make it worse… In German we have a word for it "verschlimmbessern") for most maps and only keeping it for the Maps where it was actually needed (e.g. Haddonfield, some Coldwind Maps), they did a complete 180 and further nerfed the Tiles AND removed Pallets again so that in the end it is worse than before.

And obviously they did listen here again - if you look at their Polls, aside from Haddonfield it was said on all of them that the Maps would benefit Survivors, so they listened and made it completely killer-sided.

The worst part - you will not even see more M1-Killers which people claimed were weakened by it, because why would anyone want to play a M1-Killer like Trapper if they have access to so many far stronger Killers which are also easy to play? But now those strong Killers dont even need to bother with that many Pallets anymore, since most can be easily mindgamed and are not 50/50 but rather 75/25 or so at this point.

I am honestly sick and tired of BHVRs kneejerk reactions all the time. Those three things I mentioned were done in WEEKS after introduction or announcement of a feature because people complained massively. But instead of just bringing it to Live and see from there, they listened to the loud complainers and immediatly took action. It must be so frustrating to work at BHVR to create something, just for the person in charge to come back to you in two weeks to change it completely what you have been worked on before.

And the "best" part about all of that is that DBD is now in a worse state than last year at this time - when they asked us to vote for labor of love (LOL is fitting here…) and AFTER they "Operation Health"-campaign AND with actual content updates delayed because of all of that.

Sorry for using your post for my rant, but you were 100% right with this post and it was just fitting to put it here. Usually in Surveys (except the last one) they ask how likely it is to recommend DBD to a friend and if they would have put the question in a Survey, I would have hit a big 0 on that one.

Peanits was good at pushing back. I miss his forum presence.

I saw this goofy thing for myself. Killer couldn't believe it either.

I think the developers believe they did an excellent job and don't want to post on the forum to apologize or anything for releasing one of the worst patches in their history.