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People are still not playing the low tiers.

random1543
random1543 Member Posts: 214
edited November 27 in General Discussions

"If anti slugging and tunneling come through all you will see are the top tiers"

Well they didn't go through, and I would say the majority of matches have been ghoul and blight since the update

Making the game easier for low tiers while doing nothing about the high tiers, people are still going to just play high tiers but now swamp solo q even more

Need to stop this "we need to nerf survivor for the low tiers" then that is done and the majority of matches are still high tiers..

The low tiers should be thriving this update, but because we still have killers like blight unchanged, people who want to swamp matches are just going to pick them.

Edit: played a fair few hours today and yesterday, and haven't even seen a skull merchant who was changed.

Comments

  • Reinami
    Reinami Member Posts: 6,586

    Well considering skull merchant is still the worst killer in the game.

  • random1543
    random1543 Member Posts: 214

    I only mention her because she was changed so you would assume people would at least try her out.

  • Ikalx
    Ikalx Member Posts: 152

    I actually did see a skull merchant, and they slayed ^^

  • Reinami
    Reinami Member Posts: 6,586

    I don't need to try her out to know she is still garbage.

  • random1543
    random1543 Member Posts: 214
    edited November 27

    Glad others are getting a variety !

    Out of last 30 matches (some matches where playing as killer as Billy)

    - Ghoul 7 times
    - Blight 6 times
    - Singularity 4 times
    - Deathslinger 3 times
    - Legion / Oni / Doctor - Once each
    - Billy matches where I played killer - 5 times

  • Leon_van_Straken
    Leon_van_Straken Member Posts: 364

    Well people still bring Med Kits althrough many people claimed they are dead after the self healing nerf.

    Someone who was sweaty all his DBD carriere won´t swap instant to a new Killer.

    My personal hope is the following.

    You are a OTP Nurse main. But from time to time it gets boring. So you pick up something new like Ghostface.

    Now there are two outcomes:

    1. You have a fighting chance and you see you don´t need an S+++ tier killer to win a game
    2. You get completly destoryed, not by your lack of skill but by the game itself telling you "Yeah buddy this killer sucks" and you go back to nurse.

    Personally the few times i play Killer i only play the weaker once, since I am unable to do flicks and I am dogshit without a crosshair.

    Sweaty people will always play sweaty and maybe you are much higher in your MMR than you think.

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  • random1543
    random1543 Member Posts: 214
    edited November 27

    I just wish i saw more variety

    Last point about MMR may be true only based on team mates. (I dunno how to only quote part of a message)


    I seem to get better teammates in soloq then I see most people complain about, its rare to see someone just doing nothing and most of my matches people will be useful while you are in chase, and if there is a bad teammate tends to be just one person on the team.

  • Leon_van_Straken
    Leon_van_Straken Member Posts: 364

    Fully understandable.

    I wish I would see more variety aswell. But from time to time you have to see the other side aswell.

    I love to play trapper, I really do nothing is more satisfying to me than hearing the snap of a trap followed by a scream of a survivor.

    Sadly in my MMR (I don´t even know how I have gotten so much atleast it feels that way) The Survivors do the following. I place my traps, 3 Survivors do gens, 1 runs close behind me and closes every trap.

    One of two things start happening. I ignore the survivor and become completly powerless. I start chasing him as an 115% M1 Killer and get predrop after predrop of every single pallet in the game.

    If you belive it or not. You play this game once and your mind is "Okay this can happen" You play this twice and your mind goes "Grrr" You want to go for another game… ah crap i go for something better.

  • bazarama
    bazarama Member Posts: 408

    I main Trapper (naughty bear), Legion and Ghostface with others I use a fair amount like Clown, Trickster, Huntress, Deathslinger and Chucky.

    In my opinion these killers are more enjoyable to play if you're like me and couldn't care less about winning and having fun instead.

    (On a side note lightborn brings so much joy to my games and never leave home without it)

    I occasionally use other a lot of other killers for the odd game or killer master challenges but never use Nurse, Blight or Ghoul. Don't have either the time or inclination to learn them as they just don't appeal to me.

    Xeno in particular sucks on console so never play it and the nerfs to Knight destroyed a fun and original killer.

    As far as survivors go I constantly see Meg , Feng and Lara Croft so some variety would be nice there too.

  • Just_a_Normal_Guy
    Just_a_Normal_Guy Member Posts: 16

    My last survivor games were: Wraith, Dredge, Freddy (Haven't seen on in ages and he got 4k at 1 gen up), Doctor (Last time I've played against one was like, before Dawg Master) and a Billy.

    You see, people ARE playing low-tier killers and now they're doing well. One can only guess what happened to make low-tier killers viable…

  • ImWinston
    ImWinston Member Posts: 639
    • I'm offering my own personal experience, which may not represent the actual state of the game. Since the new update, I've played roughly 25 matches, and the killers I've faced are always the same (Blight, Kaneki, Huntress, Wesker, Oni, Billy). I've faced a Skull Merchant twice (I imagine they were testing the recent changes), an Artist twice (very unusual to encounter her once, imagine twice!), a Bubba and a Nurse. I've never seen a Trapper, Ghostface, Pig, or any of the "m1" killers in general.
  • Classic_Rando
    Classic_Rando Member Posts: 127

    OK. My recent matches have not been against top tier killers. Last night had matches against Twins, Trapper and Huntress.

  • Zuiphrode
    Zuiphrode Member Posts: 487

    It's pretty obvious that the people saying they just see ghoul/blight/nurse all the time are lying.

  • random1543
    random1543 Member Posts: 214

    I haven't seen any nurses since the update and she tends to be more rare to verse anyways. i am just speaking from personal experience but as i expressed in a previous comment im glad others are getting variety

  • Chrarcq
    Chrarcq Member Posts: 46

    Legion still sees a fair amount of play. Also, strength never correlated much with popularity. That applies to DBD but also PvP games in general. People play what they enjoy playing, period. Twins, Singu, Krasue are top tier killers that you encounter once in a blue moon because not many people vibe well with them, that's all. A B tier Blight would still remain among the most played killers in the game.

  • MashedBroccoli
    MashedBroccoli Member Posts: 262

    killers are holding this games balance hostage with constant lies and threats.

  • ImWinston
    ImWinston Member Posts: 639

    I completely agree. People play with the killers they love. Any change in the game (positive or negative) can happen... players will always use Blight and Huntress and very rarely Trapper or Twins.

  • Shinkiro
    Shinkiro Member Posts: 389

    She's a poisoned chalice at this point due to survivors, why would people ever touch her again unless they are hardcore SM mains like Pixelbush?

    She wasnt even popular or common (or even really that strong) post rework (SM 2.0) even when survivors cried endlessly about her. She is still gutted and vastly weaker than even from that mediocre state so why play her? Nothing has really changed so why waste time when we all know she's still garbage?

  • Blueberry
    Blueberry Member Posts: 14,457

    Could potentially be your mmr. If it's high you're gonna see a lot more of the top tier killers since the bad killers generally aren't reaching there. Also rng is rng, sometimes we just get random odds of this or that, might just need a larger sample size.

  • tjt85
    tjt85 Member Posts: 1,644

    I try to play Killer with the same attitude and main a lot of same Killers. The only "strong" Killer that I play is Billy but I'm not even good with him. Most of the time I'm just trying to drift around the map or going for curves (but 50% time bumping into rocks and trees instead).

    I wish BHVR would bring back those "play one trial as such and such" for a reward of BP or Rift Fragments. It would do a lot to encourage more variety in trials. I played a Ghoul game the other day and got completely dunked on, with no hooks and the obligatory bags at the exit gate for absolutely no reason (playing Ghoul is apparently reason enough). A little extra something might convince some to play Killers they're not so confident or skilled with if there's some reward to lessen the sting of losing a bit.

  • IronKnight55
    IronKnight55 Member Posts: 3,102

    I’ve seen way more Ghouls than any other killer and haven’t come across a single killer below A tier. guess what? Tunneling is still just as bad, if not worse, but apparently killers only tunnel because they have to… what a joke. LOL

  • Another_LegionMain
    Another_LegionMain Member Posts: 443

    if i get given a bit of moldy pizza and send it back, i still wouldn't eat it if they removed the cheese

  • MashedBroccoli
    MashedBroccoli Member Posts: 262

    people are never going to play killers they don’t want to play. For instance i never play blight, i don’t enjoy playing him. I also don’t play legion because i don’t like them. I don’t play onyro because her gameplay loop is boring. I used to love playing myers but I don’t anymore because I hate his rework. I play trapper because I like set ups, I play huntress/slinger/springtrap because I love skilled shots. I play billy because he’s fun to curve with. I play wesker/nemesis because i’m a resident evil fan.

    I don’t pick killers based on how good they’re but based on how much I enjoy them.

  • Abbzy
    Abbzy Member Posts: 2,011

    Tbh I have seen far more twins players than hags which is interesting and Im starting to believe hag is the least picked killer in the game (twins have more action gameplay with more chase than just being like orbweaver that is just keep repearing and setting his net).

  • Abbzy
    Abbzy Member Posts: 2,011

    Other thing on high mmr is that the weaker killers cant be played here much only with best perks and addons and they still barely get two kills most of times thats why there isnt any killer variety.

  • TheTom20
    TheTom20 Member Posts: 675

    The lower tier killers where sadly struggling long before there was loads of pallets on the maps.

    For about 2 years the variety of killers has got lower an lower as most of the killers just can't keep up with people who actually do gens. The pallet issues are just one issue that lower killers faced. Big maps, gen speeds, nerfed gen defence, an array of many survivor second chance perks, no fast map traversal, the survivor hud has made even solos become vastly more efficient.

  • OmegaXII
    OmegaXII Member Posts: 2,415

    I don't think these changes to Skullmerchant makes her playable in any way. She's still in absolute dumpster as before, so makes sense no one plays her, to be honest.

    I've played few matches with her, and she's just boring as hell to play now, with basically no power at all.

  • SweetbutaPsycho
    SweetbutaPsycho Member Posts: 343

    It might honestly just be SBMM doing it's thing. After all the s tier killers will still win more clearly and consistently than pig, trapper etc. So if you are just ranked high enough as survivors those killers are naturally what you get.

    Personally im a mid/low tier surv and I've seen a lot of variety in my recent games and even a few skull merchants. But that might just be me

  • tes
    tes Member Posts: 1,143

    As person, who mained ghostface for really long time…

    I was bored. Really a lot of low tiers are simple mechanically primitive. Relies for opponents being bad in M1 chase. Or simply not entertaining.

    After this I chose Pyramidhead, and rarely played Billy and Nurse. Simply because I felt rewarded for learning something. And I felt I was falling because mechanically underplayed, not random stuff or design that makes it hard only because put it behind meta.

    And despite stupid pallet update and anti tunnel scrap fundamentally nothing happened for killers. Indoor maps still have higher chance of probability and they weren't changed, styptic were killed and syringes were changed, but with easier value gain, especially with sprint burst; you still can play through gen efficiency as survivor and if killer don’t tunnel this mythical “gen pressure” doesn't work when you avoid free hits or loop more than 10 seconds. Not all maps were changed, and survivor gained longer endurance that made endgame harder and provided more time for survivor to reach whatever they want (or simply tank a hit, gain haste, and loop another 10 seconds).

    I don't understand what fundamentally changed from killer perspective to suddenly play low tiers, beside pallets which gonna be fixed soon. And nuh, recent official stats showed that the only popular high tier was Ghoul around world. Legion is low tier, Springrap casual mid tier, Huntress and Wesker stay really low if you playing them bad and on their max they never climb higher than A. Non of the killers from high tier had Highest KR as well. No proofs that S tier are the most popular in roaster beside personal impression.