Any particular reason anti slug got dropped entirely?

According to bhvr own stats they shared. Survivors being slugged and bleed out to death was rarely happening and giving survivors infinite unbreakable for rare occasions is just a bad idea.

An idea I like is to allow slugged survivors to pick each other up. This way if survivors are getting slugged they can crawl to each other and reset.

I mean, it definitely needed fine-tuning but what we had was definitely OK on the PTB

because low mobility killers need a way to stop survivors from sitting on gens. If your teammates leave you on the ground for 4 minutes to keep working on gens, you shouldn’t be rewarded with a free get up. If you truly get bled out every single game (unlikely) there are perks you can run to counter this strategy. If you refuse to run the perk, then the issue can’t be all that prevalent.

I really don't know how anyone can be against this and think it's okay to leave someone on the ground for minutes. I don't engage with the abandon feature (and won't as long as it continues to screw up stats and MMR) so that often has me down for long periods, often while getting BMed. I'm sure everyone who's played a good amount of survivor has also come across griefing killers wo only slug and never hook. That garbage needs to stop.

So just like survivors prolonging the game when they open gate to get rhe save for the 4 out its the same thing.

Except that this is shorter AND the Killer can prevent it by just forcing the Survivors out.

But I know the latter is no possibility, because otherwise the player who wants to be feared sees them spamming a button.

If a Killer is slugging for the 4K, 1 Survivor is slugged and the other one is not slugged. But tell me - if a Killer is slugging for the 4K at 3 Gens left… Would ANYONE question that they won? Even if that last Survivor gets their pity escape? Which might not even be happening, since the Killer has ALL advantages in finding the Hatch, the Survivor can basically only get lucky.

Plus it makes 0 sense to try to rescue the Survivor on the ground at this point. The game is not winnable in a 2v1. It is stupid that the correct move is to be the antimate and let the other person die. IMO the person on the ground should be able to abandon in a 2v1. Would free one person from wasting their time (and potentially the other, since they then can abandon too since they are only with Bots, which would also then lets the Killer abandon if they want), while still letting the Killer slug for the 4K.

And well, yes, the whole team can abandon if all are slugged. This is true. But, and I already wrote this, this still takes touble the itme it would take Endgame Collapes to tick down and while the Killer can do things when Survivors are waiting at the Exit Gate (using their power to gain some BPs, breaking Pallets, forcing the Survivors out), the Survivors can only crawl around at the slowest speed possible. So it makes sense that they can abandon, since the Killer has still a lot of control at their scenario while the Survivors have next to none if all are slugged.

I said it in another thread, I'll say it here:

-Use the 2v8 anti slug and adapt it to 1v4, it doesnt take away killer slugging agency just the long term
-Tie it to exhaustion so it can't be paired with exhaustion perks for an easy getaway

The first iteration was really overtuned, by using the 2v8 version we can stop extreme cases while not giving survivors a get out of every slugging situation for free, this also makes the perks not need much change either:

-Make unbreakable work at 70 percent once while the normal anti slug can only be used at max whilst you have no exhaustion (or a unique CD).
-Upon using it you become exhausted for 60+(or more) seconds.

I find its because hooking gives them a way to go next faster for one and 2 alot of the strongest perks turn on when your hooked so being slugged is a counter to the strong perks and people dont like that. That's at least what I have found from watching twitch survivors complaining about slugging.

Simple answer was survivors could abuse it in a way that made killer gameplay practically unplayable. Survivors could make hooking not worth it or impossible through a variety of perks and addons effectively forcing the killer to slug, then those slugged survivors could simply get themselves up. This means zero pressure for the killer since no one needed to actually stop doing gens to get them up. Effectively, slugging would be something absolutely fantastic for survivors, so all survivors had to do is focus on making getting hooked a non-issue. Another thing survivors could do is simply always go down at a pallet. The killer literally cant pick them up with a nearby survivor ready for a stun. That means the killer, once again, has to slug and chase off the nearby survivor. This them allows the slugged survivor to simply pick themselves up. This pretty much meant as long as there was a pallet up, you could guarantee the killer would never get a hook in the entire match - again, as long as the survivors are smart enough to go down at a pallet and have another survivor nearby. The other 2 survivors just slam out gens. If aomeone on a gen gets chased, then the survivors swap roles and the other 2 get on gens.

With our slugging today, if survivors focus on making hooking not possible, the killer at least gets some pressure by taking someone off of a gen to get them back up.

I wonder the same thing myself. I would much rather be slugged than hooked. Most of the matches I’ve been in where killer tries to slug everyone have been losses for the killer because none of the survivors ever get progressed towards elimination. If every single survivor gets slugged that’s far more of an inability of the survivors last more than 5 seconds in chase and not pick up their downed teammates.