Is it just me or are new killers pretty broken?

Ghoul has very little counterplay, true.

Krasue on the other hand can be looped infinitely on certain decently long loops with a predropped pallet.

As her vault takes a long time, you can get to the other side of the loop rather quickly.

Ghoul is pretty competitive, but after the nerfs Krasue is kind of bad.

Springtrap:am I a joke to you.

Hes nothing that amazing in strength surprisingly. A 7 second recall time for his axe. The doors seldom do anything in some games.

1. stats tracker is broken, records incorrect data.
2. a lot of the time killers DC when all gens are done that fast. literally had 2 matches tonight where a nemesis and chucky DC'd because 3 gens flew and im soloq
3. swf teams that coordinate and works on gens efficiently most certainly can get gens done in about 5min…i say about because it can be roughly a time frame 5-7min

as soloq player with a team mate that didnt do gens my match lastest 6min45sec, would have been faster if everyone did gens.

Curious how long your matches are

i can play killer and not tunnel and upload how fast the opponent does gens no problem as my killer matches im always getting sef teams where gens fly. although all you need to do is google it and you will see killers start the match and in 45 seconds 3 gens are done. my soloq matches can take longer than 5min because im solo and my team wont touch gens…thats never been in dispute

Videos showing 2 or 3 gens popping in the first few minutes literally means nothing. The last 2-3s is what takes time because it is easier to defend fewer gens towards the middle/end game. "Gens flying" in the beginning does not mean it's actually leading to all gens getting done and escaping. In fact, I'd argue most games do not result in all 5 gens getting done and more than 2 survivors getting out.

That being said, these are my survivor results from the last 30 games.

4 things to note:

1. My 30 day escape rate is currently 61.39%.
2. I only play solo q.
3. I always bring a hatch offering (now that they are secret, they work fairly often).
4. The blight match with a 3 out was because the blight was memeing and let us go (otherwise every blight match would been an L)

True, all it takes is survivors to spread out, get on gens. the killer can only chase 1 person at a time if all are spread out. sure killer can abandon the chase to kick someone off a gen but the survivor they stopped chasing just gets on a gen instead. This mostly happens in swf teams but can happen in solo too, just less often in soloq based on my survivor matches where no one touches gens. without a fast high mobility killer the odds are stacked against the killer when survivors actually play the game.

most of your matches may be solo or 2man swf but thats not the case in my matches. most matches are 2 x 2man swf or 3man swf. i know this because i often play the same teams over and over, literally played against the same 3 man team 4 matches in a row, it got to a point they actually asked me to dodge them next time because they got fed up playing me every match (i didnt dodge and they had me as killer a couple more times shortly after that). and yes if i dont tunnel then all 5 gens get done in about 5 to 7min. which is why i tunnel, i dont go speedy killers to keep up with the pace.

First 2 or 3 gens going fast is crucial because the kick limit means killer cant defend the gens forever, with a full team in play working on the last of the gens, pre running, taking the chase away from the gens….those gens are getting done no matter how hard the killer tries to defend them

i play very few killer games these days, mostly survivor now but myers kill rate is about 80%, 2nd main is pyramid head with 66% kill rate and thats with tunneling. bare in mind 60% is what the devs aim for with kill rate…. without tunneling gens were going too fast and my kill rate was much lower. my 30 day survivor escape rate is about 60% because i stopped bringing the hatch offering, when i used hatch offering it was about 70%

Well, I played against really good survivors as Ghoul and Krasue, and they were bodyblocking and taking me to very safe tiles where they could waste my time as much as possible and still get the gens done and all that.

Saying the new killers are OP is a huge exaggeration XD

Those killers indeed are A-tier and have potential to be arguably called strong, but DO NOT say they have 0 counterplay because that's straight ignorance.

Ghoul definitely has a higher skill floor with his leaps, and on the other hand Krasue is easier to use; however, there is far more counterplay to her like bodyblocking and being effective with eating mushrooms that give you even temporary protection, if I remember correctly.

Which is still more than enough.

Tbh I feel krasue is harder to use because off how she needs play more with her power than ghoul, she needs to infect you first than switch to head form and than she can catch up and hit you but her counterplay is way bigger and its way bigger time waste for her than for ghoul who can get through health states faster and has better mobility so bodyblocks arent such problem for him as they are for krasue.

ghoul games are awful on solo q they always bring the same perks as well cough GRIM EMBRACE cough. Literally don’t think I’ve seen a single game where ghoul hasn’t got a 3-4k on solo queue. So tiring and depressing, feels demoralising loading in to a ghoul match.

Krasue is so easy since her nerfs tho ngl her powers really easy to dodge so I don’t see why people still dislike her, haven’t seen her since devs destroyed her which is strange because they let blights and ghouls get away with being overpowered but not krasue??

if you play as a survivor, stop leaving the exit gate at 99%. It’s the dumbest thing in the world. Unless you’re standing there at the switch, open the door. Jfc learn how to play.

Ghoul has done irreparable damage to the game