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Aura perks cause a lot of false reports.
Im not trying to shame anyone with this. Just trying to bring up something and ask a few questions. Whenever aura reading perks are being used on killers or survivors, the other side sometimes doesnt even know those perks exist or how they work. This time for example i just had bbq & chili for aura, didnt tunnel, didnt camp, didnt grief anyone or make any gestures. Just played out the round spreading hooks for the myers perk, and after hooking someone, saw the ada with bbq (also the obsession i was leaving for last) and went over to her quickly in head form. She stood there disconnected, reported me and left before the round even ended to see what perks i had. In the past week alone ive had atleast 3 players flatout say they reported me yet ive never used cheats in online game in my life, and never have a reason to grief other players. For example one of them was a springtrap accusing me of wallhacks because i looped him for 5 generators in the "house of pain" on the nightmare on elm street map. He didnt seem aware that springtrap has very loud steps and didnt seem to know other players can reveal him with the doors cameras since they are rarely ever used.
So i have some questions
1: what protections are in place for being falsely accused of cheating/griefing when the accused is 100% not cheating/griefing/throwing the round etc?
2: does someone watch replays of the rounds where reports took place, to make sure?
3: is it possible to recover an account in the event of a false ban? ( or are the above 2 points strong enough that this would never be necessary?) As ive seen several players on this forum making posts about their accounts being banned saying they dont know why and asking about account recovery.
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I see this a lot with killer ad ons that reveal auras as well, people get confused if its not a perk doing it or don't check ad ons and call out cheating in egc.
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It is a Problem, even for people with a lot of hours, but even more so for new players. The only viable solution I can think of could be to bring the system over from 2vs8 that gives you a status icon when you are revealed. It would be fine to buff Aura perks as compensation, so they don't become garbage.
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To be fair, you dont even know who was reported and for what someone was reported. You just assume it is that you got reported because the Survivor in question did not realize that you have some Aura Read Perks.
First of all, Reports need to be done with a Video to Support, so the Support would instantly see what the problem is. But false Reports dont mean anything anyway, if you get reported, but did nothing wrong, there will no issue for you at all. The person who reported you is just wasting their own time and possibly the time of a person from Support, but thats about it.
That people say their accounts have been banned and they dont know why is either them really doing something they should not have done and EAC being triggered or them rightfully been reported/banned or they have been sharing the game with someone else and this person did something which was not allowed.
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I run aura builds because the gen regression perks have been nerfd into oblivion.
We've had posts on here asking for a nerf to aura perks when it's just bad survivor play.
If you shine a flashlight in my face and I hit you I'm running lightborn so don't do it again because it reveals your aura.
If I hit you hiding in a bush beside a gen I'm running nowhere to hide so don't hang around the gen.
Just ignore entitled survivors who think if they lose you're cheating.
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Ingame reports are used more like a data point than an actual report that might get you banned. They're used to look for outliars like hackers that blatantly cheat, instakill everyone and get reported by almost every player every match as a result, and to compare your report rate to the average player if someone ever submits an actual manual report on your account. By manual report I mean that someone literally records their screen when playing against you, claim that you're hacking, and submits the footage as a cheating report through an official form using their BHVR account. On top of that, the person handling it has to then watch the footage, deem that you're hacking, while also checking the report rate on your account to verify. If you're not blatantly cheating in the most obvious way, you will never get banned from this kind of thing.
Basically, ingame reports from salty players that don't even understand how aura reading works have practically zero impact on your account, ever, and will never ever get you banned, so you have absolutely nothing to worry about.
As for replays, this game doesn't have a replay system. All BHVR has from matches are vague general stats, ingame reports from the match, and of course potentially whatever footage someone recorded from their screen and submitted using the cheating report form, if anyone actually bothered to do that, which 99.9% of the time they won't, not that it would get you banned if they did and you weren't blatantly cheating.
I have no idea about account recovery if you do get falsely banned but I wouldn't worry about it. Just don't clap back too had in post game chat if you get the urge, that might actually get you banned. But only if you say very specific words or slurs that trigger something, post game chat is also very lenient when it comes to bans, for better for worse. I think it's strange that we have no separation between chat bans and game bans yet but that's another topic.
If someone reports, just ignore it completely. If they seem insistent, tell them to check your perks so they understand how you found them. And if they're abusive in post game chat, report for communication abuse and move on. Nothing will happen anyway.
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You won't be really able to buff them simply because how this change would affect different killers.
Is Nurse, or Blight going to care if you also know about their information? Not really
But there is no way you can balance them for normal speed killers, suddenly information perk becomes hindrance, because it will make survivors prerun you.It is a Problem, even for people with a lot of hours, but even more so for new players.
Few false reports is not really reason to nerf killers. It's not like they ban any player that gets reported.
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Many people forget.
Aura perks aren´t the only thing to track Survivors.
Crows, Grunts of Pain, or fading blood puddles can lead you to survivors.
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Maybe Aura should notify you when your revealed like in 2v8
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Wouldn't change anything because people would miss the icon or ignore it and we'd be back to the same thing. I got accused of cheating multiple times of 2v8 including from streamers and I watch their vod and it shows the icon literally right there. Lol.
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Ive noticed in 2v8 it only notifies you if you were in the immediate area of the reveal radius. But if they kicked a gen and then went a few steps then saw you while the reveal effect lingers for a second or so, that icon doesnt show and theres no notification they are revealed. Which probably causes most of the confusion as they are expecting a notification they are revealed anytime it happens
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There is no way you will get banned of that report.
I played a match as Deathslinger on Underground Complex and had Darkness Revealed. It gave me tons of value and could do really good shots while coming around corners because I saw auras of the survivors with it. Still nobody reported me and I think I got compliment from a turkish player as was curious what he was saying. Most of the time people will not jump to cheat claims but have had people claiming cheats when their own scratchmarks run to the locker they are hiding in.
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i always was against aura perks, aura is wallhack, simple as that, there is no skill behind it, the only reason it is acceptable is because it makes it harder to defend gens since u lose perks to use perks, but in the end, wallhack is wallhack and it give back experience to people overall, and also promote using wallhacks, people that play aura, i wont be surprised if they will not be able to play other games without wallhacks, due to built in cheats in games, they will just download wallhacks elsewhere.
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as a yugioh players lemme tell ya, people Do. Not. Read.
I legit had a twitch streamer call me a hacker in game saying demo is a hacker and then immediately leaves the lobby without checking perks and addons.(I had leproseLichen)people just want to react and not follow up on it.
anybody who walks the path of self improvement will withhold such accusations because at the very least, checking kits is the bare minimum.
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To be fair, basically all subtle cheaters hide this behind an aura read perk.
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I am once again asking for the ability to see the killer's perks and add-ons if everyone in your party has either died or escaped, even if the game hasn't ended.
- Will hopefully reduce the number of false reports when someone is able to see why they were spotted at a specific point
- Lets you know what your opponent's build was without having to wait for the game to end if you die early in solo queue
- As long as it's tied to only people in your queue, you can't share it in voice chat
I guess the one potential downside is DMing your non-partied teammates on console if the killer happens to have an endgame build could be broken. Very small possibility that gets abused but a present one nonetheless - maybe remove the ability open teammates profiles on console until the game is over to compensate, or something.
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Well it makes a sound notification when it triggers so it's kinda hard to ignore
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Same problem with killer instinct, which can't be checked on the scoreboard. Now I wonder how many people think I'm cheating because I found them in a locker or bush and they just didn't understand how the killer worked.
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- None. You are basically only protected by the fact that BHVR doesn’t act on reports unless there’s a lot of them or there is more to go on, such as a support ticket report with video evidence, a VOD, the cheater somehow triggered EAC, or someone close to the devs reached out. If you get a lot of false reports you will actually get prevented from matching with “whitelisted” people (fog whisperers and some dbd creator program partners).
- There is no replay system for dbd. Devs cannot access replays because they do not exist.
- Yes but no one can reliably tell you the odds of that. I personally have been falsely reported many times and have yet to be banned, so I don’t think you should worry about that.
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1.Bans require video evidence, a report is absolutely worthless without video evidence to back it up.
2. Someone watches submitted video if it is submitted.
3. You can appeal false bans.
Link to game rules:
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Aura reading needs to be removed on both sides. It's not healthy for the game. Killers should be given killer instinct as a substitute.
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We've probably all been reported at one time or another for cheating and we don't even realize it. You're only aware of this one because they outright told you. I imagine support just dismisses them. With the current prevalence of cheaters in the game I imagine alot of false reports are happening.
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