Onryo Originalists, how do you feel about her now?
I've been trying her out again lately and she feels awful. Survivors now have so much time to turn off her TVs and Condemn provides basically no pressure if you're not on a tiny map. Her Manifestation is kind of a joke power against Survivors with any experience and many of her addons aren't useful at all. Additionally, she has a lullaby that as far as I know still shows up on the Visual Terror Radius, which means her stealth is functionally nonexistent.
I know Onryo's previous iteration encouraged an unhealthy playstyle when they first reworked her Condemn, but it seems like the 'dework' has put her back near the bottom of the tier list if you're not playing against baby Survivors or, ironically, leaning even more heavily into her drawn-out slugging/Condemn playstyle with a bunch of slowdown. I feel an attachment to Sadako since she was one of the first Killers I learned to play, but she feels really rough at the moment, kind of how she did when I first picked her up). I know there were those who (very vocally) advocated to 'revert Sadako', even though many of the changes they previously made actually felt really good to me. I'm just wondering if the people who really wanted her back in her original (in my eyes worse) state have any thoughts about this, and if they actually see this as a problem.
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She's at the bottom of D-tier on most lists for a reason. The only thing keeping her out of F-tier next to Trapper and Skull Merchant is a (semi-) on-demand teleport.
I don't think I would say she needs to go back to her original form, but she certainly needs quite of bit of help right now.
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She is super map dependent and if survivor arent super out of the match with their mind than getting some condem value is very hard plus she requires probably the bigger macro management than any other killer you need to know where who is and where which tv was turned off and by who and than when to tp and spread condem which isnt easy and very map dependent like on indoor maps like midwitch its not that bad as it is on coldwind plus her stealth is only good on indoor maps and her chases arent good either unless its medium safe pallet and you play the dissapearing mind game well but still survivors have way more option s than you think unless its corner of the map thats why I find her one of weakest killers.
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I miss her old style as well. Used to main her before the spam change. I never cared about condemn kills i just used her for on/off stealth and teleport mobility. It was highly effective at the time atleast for me. I think they should atleast remove the luluby as it has no place on a character meant to turn off their terror radius.
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Other than my love for Sadako there’s no reason you’d play her over most other killers if you like to win games. You’re basically a below-average powerless M1 killer most games when survivors take tapes / turn off TVs - I guess for new players she’d be strong if you ignored the TVs and became condemned.
She needs a lot of love when it comes to chase ability (make her phase through dropped pallets / breakable walls when demanifested, increase passive phasing duration), a map wide lullaby if we’re keeping it (like Drac in bat form), an add on rework (iri tape’s current version should be removed) and TV cooldowns should be much shorter and more punishing if holding a tape.
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