Has it ever been considered to rewrite/retcon lore for a specific reason?

ObiBooceKenobae
ObiBooceKenobae Member Posts: 9

This might sound weird but genuinely asking, we're hours away from the launch of the PTB for Stranger Things Chapter 2, and I've had this question on my mind for a while, but is it at all a possibility to change the lore for Steve , Nancy and Jonathan to better fit the events of Season 5, that way they can have possible interactions with Eddie, and have interactions with other characters with the knowledge and emotions from Season 5 and whatnot? Hopefully im making sense

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  • CatManThree
    CatManThree Member Posts: 95

    Theyve sort of done retcons via tomes, but tome stories are technically of individual versions of a character rather than a global thing. Like Spirit intentionally giving herself up to the entity to avoid her father getting taken (which was stupid) was a thing in a tome.

  • Smoe
    Smoe Member Posts: 3,338
    edited February 14

    They're not individual versions, they are stories tied to the playable versions of the characters. Anything multiverse related is specifically within the NPC tomes only.

    Most of the tomes don't really retcon anything either. The only tome i can think of retconning a base lore is Legion, but that's about it.

    Also Spirit didn't give herself up to avoid her father getting taken, don't know where you're getting that from, because that's not what happens in her tomes.

  • CatManThree
    CatManThree Member Posts: 95
    edited February 15

    Final memory from spirit's story in Tome 20 is what I was referring to. That whole story is the entity corrupting her, but it's manipulating her in a way that makes it seem like she is saving her father from the entity and the blood rage. She dreams of a black serpent devouring her father every night. The serpent is likely a reference to The Black Serpent Society from the Red Crane stories, which is implied to be related to the Black Talon. Final story is her killing her father to "end the cycle" without realizing she is falling into the entity's hands. This recontextualizes and generally changes her backstory a lot.

    More blatant example I should have brought up was Jane. In tome 22, the way Jane was taken is completely changed. She was publicly investigating the disappearances of people taken by the entity. In response, the Black Talon she was set up her up by forcing her into doing a story in a location with a bleed, resulting in her getting taken and by extension silenced. Way she got taken is completely different in her bio, having been taken while driving to her fathers amidst an emotional wreck involving a public disaster on her show involving her estranged mother.

    Another retroactive change off the top of my head is the story from Wraith's tome. His tome tells the story of his village being massacred by mercenaries working Biafra during the Nigerian Civil War. This was retconned in a later tome, stating that those mercenaries had nothing to do with the civil war and were hired by the Black Talon to seize a bleed that existed within the village's well. Though perhaps that was intended more as a twist than a retroactive change.

  • Smoe
    Smoe Member Posts: 3,338
    edited February 17

    I've read most of the tome lores thank you.

    Also those are entirely just your own interpretations of those lores, rather than objectively confirmed retcons.

    We don't know if Spirit "intentionally gave herself up to the entity to avoid her father getting taken", since we don't know reason why she drops the sword in her dream at the end of her tome story before getting swallowed whole, as it is never explicitly made clear nor even stated why in the story, meaning we're only left with assumptions & speculations to go on as to why she did it.

    The images in Jane's tome doesn't confirm that she was taken by The Entity then and there, all we see is that she runs out of the prison with fog coming out of the door, nothing more. It is also much more likely that she only temporarily entered a bleed while in the prison, that was left from when The Entity took either Zarina or Caleb there. Same way the group of friends in the story ''Survivor Statement. Sean Dint.'' from tome 6 temporarily entered a bleed and got attacked by The Oni.

    I do not remember which tome talks about the mercenaries from Wraith's tome, but what you're stating doesn't sound like a retcon.

    As i said, the tome lores are intended to be tied to the base character's lores, with all the multiverse stuff being tied to the npc tomes exclusively.

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  • CatManThree
    CatManThree Member Posts: 95

    Yeah youre right. I'm horribly overthinking all this. Oof.