Why can't killer disconnect without penalty once a gate opens?
How come survivors can disconnect without penalty when they are about to die but for killers they have to walk all the way to the gate and chase camping survivors to get them to actually leave and finish the game? This isnt an occasional thing if survivors escape through the gate there is usually atleast 1 person who stands right beside the exit just waiting to waste my time and I get punished for leaving the game so I can get onto my next game faster?
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survivors can leave when they’re close to dying because your fellow killer mains like to slug, tunnel, camp, so you should really be complaining to them. Why do killers need to be able to dc at all? It’s not like the survivors can kill the killer and make the game end early for him. But the killer can most definitely do that to a survivor, I see survivors get tunneled out at 5 gens every time I play, which is why survivors get to dc without a penalty.
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Did you read my post I said killers should be able to DC because its annoying to extend the game while having no chance of winning
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Killers should be able to abandon once exit gates are powered. At this point it's up to them whether they want to try a luck in engame or just go next. Survivors will receive points from leaving, so there is no issue.
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Looking at the current ways the killer can abandon, it seems to only allow them to abandon when the game has prettymuch been won alredy (by the killer). If all 4 are bots, u can abandon, if the remaining survivors are hiding and unable to complete gens anymore for 10 minutes, abandon. And when you abandon the survivors don't "escape", only if you disconnect.
But being able to just shut the whole endgame off as soon as the last generator pops might as well be removing the end game colapse from the game at all. It also can mess with achievements and challenges the other players are trying to do.
The killer is still in power during the end game because if they catch anyone out in the open, they have an advantage towards killing atleast 1 more person. Ive even had a round as deathslinger where the gates were open, they were bagging while one was just outside the door breaking a totem, i pulled him off, and managed to kill all 4 without bloodwarden or no ed. They dont consider the gates being open to be instant game over like people not being able to stand up anymore. They also don't consider the end game colapse to be that long of a timer to consider it wasting a lot of your time (as it goes faster if everyone is healthy), and its entire purpose is to force survivors to leave or die.
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They could easily make it so when you abandon this way all alive survivors count as escaping and I know sometimes you can get a kill but also sometimes you definitely can't so why not give me the choice to end it early when I know im not getting another kill
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Because the end game collapse is alredy meant to be a timer in your favor to finnish the round faster. The only thing stopping the round from ending immediately in a situation where you know they are all ready to leave, is your refusal to go push the survivors out the gate, and their annoying habbit to wait for you to do so.
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having an end solution is not a reason to justify denying killers being able to abandon when the end solution means your forced to endure end match celebration by the opposition. The last survivor can abandon mid mori…. The match is literally over yet they can skip the last 10sec to avoid the end match celebration but killers are forced to endure it because "they can push them out"? Thats not a valid reason imo
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I don't find this suggestion to be unreasonable to ask.
Give the option to abandon after the gates are opened, but instead of ending the game, replace the killer with a bot.
The bot doesn't need to be good. It doesn't need to use the power. Just an M1 bot that gets the survivors out of the gates.
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Even if you have no problem walking to the gate or gates and chasing the survivors out the problem remains that abandoning in that situation shouldn't have a punishment because the killer isnt depriving the survivors of their game they already won all they are depriving them of is the toxicity that DBD is trying to remove already
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Survivors asked for the abandon system so they didn't have to wait 4 minutes to die while slugged. Survivors now use the system to avoid watching a 10-15 second cutscene.
Killers ask for an abandon option to avoid waiting 2 minutes for the game to be over. Survivors claim this is unfair.
The double standard and hypocrisy of the community is sad to watch.
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How come you do not understand the difference in being unable to play anymore and still being able to do whatever you want?
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By that logic you shouldn't be able to abandon when your being slugged because you can still play while being slugged you just can't play in the way you want
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This isn't unreasonable. Very typically survivors just hang out to teabag at the gate. There's no reason to force a killer to stay through a lost match in this fashion. Abandon at the gate powering is perfectly reasonable. I would dare say that not allowing this would be tantamount to BHVR openly and explicitly endorsing toxicity. Which, I mean, if they want to support Survivor teabagging enough to endorse open toxicity, then I think most Killers would either bail or lean hard into the Killer variant of the same.
Abandon at gates functionality could potentially help to circumvent that feedback loop as well making it clear they do not endorse toxicity.3 -
How is being slugged anywhere near "you can still play"? You cant do anything thats related to your objective. And thats the total opposite of your take. Even if you go again for the mods, youre completely unreasonable and there no way denying this.
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I'm for it.
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being slugged is playing the game, no different to being hooked. Are we going to complain about being hooked because you cant do anything thats related to your objective?
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Most Survivors only don't want it because there is no Killer bot and the match just ends. Its not hypocrisy its the game treats a killer leaving differently to a survivor.
I don't have a issue with killer abandons situations being as common as survivors IF a killer dc bot is added like Sogo suggested in a previous comment.-2 -
Is escaping an objective? Because you can get hatch while crawling so yes you can still play the game
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Killer bots do exist in 2v8 so I find this excuse irrelevant. Survivors don't want killers to abandon, because they feel the need to make sure the player suffers their bm. That is all it has ever been. And it's been an issue for years even before the abandon system. Survivors want their time respected, but anytime killers ask for the same there are complaints.
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You can force them out rather than just wanting to end it immediately. Besides, maybe someone gets too cocky and accidentally gets themself killed, or the game isn't necessarily over. don't give up
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yeah there is bots in 2v8 so they should add it to 1v4 and stop the match from ending when they dc so abandon options can be expanded for killer I don't see how that is irrelevant .
If survivors still just dropped dead when they dced they would also have less abandoned options.
stop trying to make this a us vs them when the mechanics of what happens if a survivor dcs vs killer dc in 1v4 is totally different0 -
This completely ignores the main issue.
- forcing them out does not solve the issue that killers have to undergo the tedious and futile task of hitting them out
- forcing them out does not prevent the killer from going through the usual tbagging ritual which is the main issue because killers feel like survivors can skip the mori but killers cant skip the tbagging unless they wait out the timer so they are stuck between a rock and a hard place.
- When survivors are at full health i have never known them to accidently get themselves killed when at the gates without the killer having perks such as noed.
personally i think there should be more risk for survivors that wait at the gates, like a random blocker so the survivors that remain to tbag actually risk getting killed. Pretty sure it would reduce the amount of people that intentionally wait around purely to tbag the killer (there are a lot of them). i dont see much of it in my killer matches because i try to make sure it doesnt get to that point but i do see it a lot in my survivors matches when im in spectate mode.
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I'd agree but the empathy isn't being extended both ways. Survivors can leave/abandon freely without all being slugged. No one is advocating taking that option away from them and saying 'Keep trying! Don't give up!'
It's simply not reasonable to apply that standard to one side and not the other.5 -
As killer I want to escape with survivors if they all near gates.
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If you put it that way I guess
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This is how I feel. The current state of the game is very bitter and the Surrender option hasn't helped that at all. But if it's going to be there, it should apply equally to all players. We can surrender when we're the last ones standing, so I don't think it's the end of the world for Killer to surrender when the gates open. My only request is that it doesn't end the trial immediately because BHVR made the brilliant decision to make DCs deny Adepts.
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