Its Trickster Day!

Not so much to be honest. Trickster changes dont really concern me, I never was a fan of playing him. He is most likely better for Trickster Mains, but this makes him even worse for me to play. But I am fine with that, not like I really played him at all.

Will not look forward to face him more often.

Survivor is whatever, Perks are meh like always and it is another Skin.

Not looking forward to the map at all, people are hyped about it because the map looks pretty, but it is basically an Indoor Map and I dont like those kind of maps.

I don't enjoy trickster with how most maps are made and how open (short) loops are.

I am probably sitting out this patch for 1-2 weeks until people stop playing him so often.
Atleast on survivior side.

GHOUL day

I'm only interested in Yun-Jin's new lobby theme and seeing what happens to Wesker tbh

Trickster buffs 😄

His add-ons got major glow up too

All due respect intended, but these aren't buffs. If I take your pie from you and hand you back 75% of a pie, you argue, and I then hand to 80% of a pie, it's not a 'pie buff.' I still took 20% of your pie. Not that BHVR took the pie in this case, but for some examples of what you're calling buffs it does feel applicable.


Core

Increased base throw state movement - You run at 4.4, start throwing at 3.86, instead of 3.68. Either way you are categorically slower than survivors at 4.0, who typically run a speed augmentation as well. This means that once you enter throw state your option is to down them, or lose chase closure to an extended chase.

If you land an injury, by the time you do so it's increasingly likely the survivor is gone. If the math is I remember it, a survivor goes to 6.0 m/s for a short period of time (3~s). That means for a brief time the survivor is moving at nearly double your throwing speed if you land injury, and all they need to do is put a solid object in a landscape of solid objects between them and you. After throwing 10 knives you move at 3.16 m/s, while an survivor on the trigger of a successful throw (injury) hits 6.0. Assuming this took 6~ Seconds or so and you injured 3 seconds into this, that would give the survivor (.14) meters on you per second in chase while throwing. If you succeed the event and injure they gain (2.84) meters per second on you for three seconds as you descend into 3.16.

[(.14*3)+(2.84*3)] is on average around 9 meters, assuming optimal patterns. Gaining at 110% means it will take you [.4/9] to catch up, around 22.5 seconds, 21 if you go for lunge. Alternatively you can keep gambling by slowing yourself down and throwing more, but you are going to continue to lag back. This introduces windows for survivors to body block and run intervention, while cutting off line of sight becomes more than counter-play, but instead becomes punishing.

So every second in throw state you are moving slower than the thing you are chasing (.14 starting,) and increasingly move slower than them the longer it takes you to land shots. Thus it encourages you to M1 wherever possible rather than engage with the killers mechanic, but 4.4 M1 is rough.

Admittedly as a huntress main I envy the 3.86m/s, but my hatchets insta injure at 3.08 m/s and I wouldn't trade that for the world as I just fire and forget, no extended windows of slow down in most cases, and much higher accuracy at range with stronger lob potential. Less gambling involved.

Laceration Decay - 4.4 seconds to decay from 3 is a buff, but one that balances the sluggish tempo of the killer. 4.4 seconds with a killer at average speed of [3.86+3.53+3.16/3 (simplified)] 3.51 m/s while throwing, means the survivor in question has gained 2.15 meters on the killer in that 4.4 seconds. If a survivor cannot block line of sight or space the killer in that time, then they are rewarded for their failure to do so by facing a killer a 3.16 m/s. This is a gamble trade-off, which isn't uncommon but it's particularly punishing when each gamble Trickster makes slows him down up to 3.16.

Say you engage with Trickster and eat 4 stacks of laceration across a 10 second throwing spree. Slop math (4.4+3.86[11.58]*+3.53*3[10.59]+3.16*3[9.48]) says Trickster moves 31.65 meters in this chase. The survivor assuming no speed bonuses is moving 40. You now have 8.35 meters lead, which will take Trickster 20 seconds to close. Your stacks are gone. If you get a decent Trickster who lands an injury in this time at say, second 7 in the chase, you gain (4.0*7[28]+6.0*3[18]) [46] 14.35 meters on him. This will take him 35.87 seconds to catch up to you. Your stacks are gone and you, assuming you do not wish to demonstrate darwinism, are well hidden behind solid objects or moving to your team for assistance. If you play sweat you push him through loops, delay the catch-up, and continue this cycle all the better. Your lacerations again are gone by the time he catches up short of him being on the high end of thrown accuracy and you are not dodging or blocking.

48 seconds, plus let's say kindly the Trickster is on the better side of decent and you fail to loop or block, and he downs you promptly on catching up.

The problem with the above math is that this encompasses 48 seconds. That is ~50% of a generator per survivor not in chase, or not assisting. Assuming a survivor is assisting you or moving to assist, that's a generator completed per chase cycle assuming a perkless comp on both sides.

Yes, Main event is a thing, but you're going to be headed for solid objects between the two of you the moment you engage as that's the counter-play, so Main Event locking Trickster into [3.92*10] may seem favorable, but it's not once you start looping any one of the boundless geometical collision objects in any given tile and hugging it like a hang-over hugs a toilet. Trickster could delay out into M1, but at 4.4 he's going to struggle to pull that off and it only punishes him for using his power.

Add-Ons

Caged Heart Shoes - 5% throw state speed is not worth an add-on slot, particularly when throw state speed fluctuates.

Lucky Blade - Would you take a survivor add-on that made your toolkit faster 1/8th of the time? 3% Haste on a 110 is not helpful, let alone for 3 seconds. Style point is nice, I suppose? This feels like there was no solid idea for what it would do so it got shotgunned with effects. Arguably, the more effects there are on this add-on the worse it is, as it becomes less and less dependable.

Trick Blades - Bounce is back and nice, but the eight blade per trigger invites the same comment as before: would a survivor use an add-on slot on something that does something 1/8th the time? Some would I'm sure, but it's a gamble at best for a mediocre pay-out. You gamble an add-on slot and pray to RNG.

Iridescent Photo - 'All auras revealed' is the 'buff' here, but the time you least want the survivors to see your aura (Main Event) is not worth seeing their aura. This statistically provides the survivors more benefit than it provides you, as running blind you are four times as likely to find a person than the survivors are to find a killer. This is, if anything, a further nerf. Revealing the aura of a ranged killer to the survivors just tells them to keep solid objects between X and Y until decay.



Mind you I've full faith BHVR will change Trickster further and adjust, this isn't me being doomer. Just wanted to point out that the math alone here tells me that if left in current state Trickster will indeed be doomed to C-tier at best. Trickster is, in this iteration, a killer that seems to appeal to style, fluidity and speed but plays clunkily and sluggishly. Stylish, for certain, but it's jarring. I look forward to seeing him improved.

it's nice to have the real killer back even though people hate 110.

Look, I'm going to be real with you. The dev team ignored pretty much every bit of criticism people made about his changes on the PTB and put him on live pretty much unchanged. You have to realize this means you don't have much credibility when saying this.

Not really your specific personal fault, but saying "The devs will look at it" isn't going to inspire much confidence.