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My concern about "taunting killers"

As someone who has quite a lot of hours in survivor, I can tell pretty early in a match if I'm going up against a killer who isn't on that kind of level. And I feel sorry for them if it's not an even match. I don't think, "ha ha ha terrible killer, ha ha I'm better you should uninstall." But I definitely get that vibe off my teammates. Especially when it's a match against some baby huntress and my teammates are bagging, flashlight clicking and nodding every chance they get. With the obligatory bag at the exit gates.

There Is an argument to be made that that kind of stuff is strategy. Because it gets in killer's heads and could get them flustered enough to make a mistake. While that might work on the p100 blight who never misses a hit, I question how effective it is against a killer who is missing most of their hits anyway.

I think the constant bm of baby or inexperienced killers has two effects in dbd: People just stop playing killer as much or at all or b. Killers really do "get mean" in matches, resorting to all the stuff survivors HATE to go against because they're taking bad past matches out on future matches. So it becomes this constant circle of mutual frustration. Where as killer, you're either getting stomped on by nodding, bagging, clicky survivors OR going too hardcore with a full meta load out against four pitiful solo q players who just wanted to play a regular game of dbd. And nobody ends up having that much fun.

Comments

  • cogsturning
    cogsturning Member Posts: 3,017

    Killers BM too. This isn't a one-sided issue, where the killer is the victim made into a monster by a girl with blue hair doing rapid squats. If survivors get hard tunneled out of a ton of matches, get humped, get brought to hatch and moried in front of it, they might become bitter and nasty, and weaker players are really the only ones they get a chance to feel powerful against, with the nature of the role. Toxicity is a virus, but only for certain personality types. The daily BMing I get in this game has yet to change me. Adults recognize that all of their opponents are different people.

    People who BM likely do it in both roles anyway. "Survivor" and "killer" aren't cultural groups with their own customs, their just two sides of a game, and if people play both, they're going to be the same person in either role. The tbagging survivors are probably the humping killers too.

  • coldflame
    coldflame Member Posts: 160

    killing people as the killer role is the same as griefing, TIL

  • Dem34888
    Dem34888 Member Posts: 190

    There're many reasons that have been discussed billion of times and that's not ony about killers

  • Leon_van_Straken
    Leon_van_Straken Member Posts: 646

    There is a difference between Missmatch/Nuke to BM.

    From time to time I can loop the Killer for 3 to 5 gens and not a single T bag or Hump is made in a whole game althrough one side is clearly better than the other.

    BMing is a personal problem which occours in nearly every game and has nothing to do with the games balance or MMR at all.

    If you are a toxic person you will be toxic no matter what.

  • hermitkermit
    hermitkermit Member Posts: 1,047
    edited April 2

    People that are toxic survivors that BM are the same people that are toxic killers who BM. Because it isn’t a survivor player or killer player issue, it’s a player issue. That being said, it sucks to see but you can try to stop it. I stand in front of the killer when people like that try and flashlight beam them, I shake my head no and point. When a killer is humping a survivor on the ground, I do the same thing.

    Does it change the actual game? No. But it shows that person affected that someone is standing up for them, and that’s what they will remember.

  • hermitkermit
    hermitkermit Member Posts: 1,047

    Surely you can gather more from the comment than that? Humping someoene on the ground to you isn’t BM?

  • Valuetown
    Valuetown Member Posts: 908

    So is this hypothetical killer a baby huntress new player like you're claiming or are they a 500+ minimum hour player with access to all the broken meta perks? You can't really make the claim that this will continue a cycle if a new player doesn't have the means to run 4 slowdown. Also obligatory "fix matchmaking" if this really matters to you that much. Nobody complains when a comp player on blight ruins the experience of newer survivors, but it's even worse for them.

  • Dem34888
    Dem34888 Member Posts: 190

    When you feel like the game is unfair for you, you start getting angry and that can lead to "toxic behavior/BMing", if you don't get my point
    The video simply explains why this anger can appear

  • Wiccamanplays
    Wiccamanplays Member Posts: 284

    As with any multiplayer game, the correct response to having a bad game is to reset mentally and remember that each match is different and that your next opponents are not going to be the same as your previous ones. But just because it's the correct response doesn't mean it's easy to do. I've been guilty of this myself: I bring a mid-tier Killer with a balanced loadout, don't start the match with the intent to tunnel or play mean and get stomped by a group with the top meta perk builds, weapons-grade toolboxes and a bunch of anti-hook offerings, who then emote spam, refuse to leave during the EGC or BM me with rude messages post-game. I don't want that to repeat, so next game I cook up the sweatiest build I can put together and play ruthlessly, only for the Survivors to snap like twigs and Survivor Little Timmy Thompson (it was his first game of DBD ever) calls me a loser nolife [insert slur here] because I didn't let him goof around for 15 minutes. You can't win.

  • Royval
    Royval Member Posts: 1,284

    it’s a PvP game

  • HoodedWildKard
    HoodedWildKard Member Posts: 2,293

    Nature of any pvp game unfortunately. There will always be salty little trolls who just want to take out their frustrations on other people by making them as miserable as possible.

    Just got to be the change you want to see.

  • Readycent
    Readycent Member Posts: 14

    I don't see these taunts as very toxic, certainly not so much to stop playing the game over. Dropping it low and letting it bounce for the killer isn't really the most toxic thing survivors can do, if it can even be considered toxic to begin with