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Disparity between killer/survivor balance is too large of a gap by a long shot
In some matches, not all but most, killers are able to down and/or hook survivors before a generator is even completed. I know I will get a lot of hate due to the population of killer mains that want everything in their favor, meanwhile survivors keep getting the shaft with every pass at updating/altering perks.
The balance between killer power and perks needs a severe change. Killers should only be allowed 3 perks plus their power for starters. This would upset all the players that main killer but if we are being honest this would be the first step in the right direction to balance the gameplay. It is far too killer leaning.
While survivors are mostly defenseless, no way to fight back, killers have as many perks PLUS their power which is extremely unfair and moreover unfun. I have played since 2017 and the game lacks the excitement it had back when the game first released. With the release of high mobility killers, ones that can pretty much be every at will there ought to be more of a cooldown on the use of the innate abilities garnered by each individual killer.
If perhaps steps were taken to limit the number of perks a killer has access to, also increasing the time to complete generators would be a fair trade off. This would extend the gameplay, leveling the playing field by boosting the time to completion while also making each killer be far more decisive about their chosen builds.
The game was once thrilling, nail biting, and there was a sense of skill expression. Now killers can hook from any angle near the hook, wiggle progress is seemingly an illusion as even with a full wiggle meter, survivors are getting hooked because the killer can start the hook action before they even reach the hook.
Survivor hitboxes are the size of a short bus and while I completely dodge an attack, killers are whiffing and still getting rewarded with survivor damage states. If a killer has started the swinging action pallets cannot be thrown. I cannot even count how many times I have gone to throw a pallet and nothing happens and the killer gets a down. It has become unplayable and the game has so much potential but it is wasted catering to one side of the community.
Devs, please try to remember, if there are no survivors, you do not have a game. I often think about uninstalling DBD because of the reckless decisions being made which ultimately are ruining the originality this game once possessed.
There is no excuse for killers complaining that survivors are OP. They cannot expect to achieve a 4K every match and yet it is very easy to do, especially with the tactics being employed like proxy camping, gen patrolling, slugging, et cetera.
While this is just my opinion, and I am aware that I will be down voted into oblivion, it just goes to show how much power you have given over to the killer community without considering the decline in participation that will occur if something isn't done to make the game engaging and exciting for the survivors again.
Best regards
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Just out of curiosity, do you play survivor exclusively? Not trying to bring up an us vs them thing. I play both quite often.
Theres like 4 seperate groups of players in dbd.
- Killer mains (wont play survivor, they just don't like it)
- Killer/survivor mains (play both sides equally and understand what both sides go through)
- Solo/duo survivor mains ( used to just random groups with no tactics or strategies, just trying to survive)
- Survive with friends survivor mains (full team swfs of either bully squads / swat teams / casuals. Exploit every mechanic given to survivor side and usualy use discord for tactics and strategies)
Depending on which of the groups you are from, your viewpoint on everything in the game changes. For example if you play solo que survivor only, than you will likely see killers as this nearly impossible to beat force that exploits teamwork requirements of needing help to get back up / get off hooks etc. Which in solo que is the case. But if youve played killer enough to see the swf teams, you'd understand that even the killer players can be made helpless at times.
Like that blight winstreak that just ended almost 2000, there are similar survivor winstreaks as well.
If you give 1 advantage to solo que survivors who are infact suffering, then the swf teams find ways to abuse that new advantage and weaponise it - every time. The same can be said for trying to buff weaker killers with new strong perks only for the higher tier killers to abuse them.
So its not as simple as just "buff this side it needs help"
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Some of these changes would not help the overall health of the game.
- 3 perk power limit on killer is not healthy
- In regards to power cooldown that could work with some of the top tiers but some killers such as unknown need to have shorter cooldowns
- Getting hit at pallets could be ping issue in which case I agree needs server side validation is needed so person with better ping gets the advantage but when killers don't have bad ping I just continue to run the loop and if they do lunge into it and miss.
I do agree with your sentiment at the end that suviours are not OP and killers should not be expecting to 4k every game but these changes.their are matches I have where not one gen gets done before the first hook, there are also matches where 3 gens are popping before the first down so now them matches they are going to be limited to 3 perks.
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First of all, the fact that a killer manages to down a survivor before a generator is completed is not solely the killer’s fault.
Were the other survivors actually working on generators? Or were they wasting time hiding, doing totems, opening chests, admiring the scenery?
Did the survivor who went down hold the loop properly? Or did they just run in a straight line without ever looking back? Did they take the killer’s power into account? Etc.
Also, you’re not the first to come here claiming that poor survivors keep getting nerfed by the developers every day. Funny enough, they just announced a major nerf to Blight and a slight nerf to Nurse. Yeah… poor survivors, right…
Saying killers should only have 3 perks shows a deep lack of understanding of the game—or a strong level of hypocrisy—perhaps because you ONLY play survivor, in solo queue (?), and your level isn’t exactly great. On that note, I’d suggest showing your gameplay before complaining about the other side. Before blaming the opposing side like that, it might be worth looking at your own gameplay first.
Case in point: you say the game is too killer-sided. That’s simply not true—at least not at high MMR. At low or average MMR, sure, killers might have a bit of an advantage. Should we then assume you’re playing low MMR solo queue? Without a team?
Then you go even further in bad faith by claiming survivors are ‘defenseless’ and have ‘no way to fight back.’
That’s pure bad faith. The game is literally filled with so many walls, windows, and pallets you could open a construction materials store.
Pallets themselves were adjusted—more specifically their RNG/number—allowing survivors to connect loops even more easily.
Once again, show us how you play.
You claim to have been playing since 2017? It’s hard to believe that a serious player with 9 years of experience would say things like this. Or maybe you’re a very casual player who only plays survivor and whose skill level has remained fairly low.
Then you talk about survivor hitboxes, claiming that ‘even when you dodge, you still get hit.’ No—that just means you didn’t dodge.
A player who’s been playing since 2017 should know that.
And I’m obviously not talking about killers intentionally playing on 400ms ping or connection issues—I’m talking about normal gameplay.
You mention getting hit before you can drop a pallet? Again, it’s hard to believe it takes 9 years of DbD to understand how pallets work. You mostly give the impression that you only see the game from the survivor side and have never played killer. You should.
You can also anticipate the swing and/or predrop.
Then you complain about killers patrolling generators. You do remember that’s literally the killer’s objective, right? What do you expect them to do—go check a bush 10 kilometers away just in case you’re hiding there? I’m not talking about killers who hard-force a 3-gen from the start and never leave it—but even that can be dealt with.
Well… as long as the team is coordinated.
To conclude, your comment clearly reflects a survivor-biased mindset. I wouldn’t be surprised if you’re a survivor-only player, because someone who plays both roles doesn’t think like that.
Conclusion: show us what you’re capable of, and how your matches actually play out—and then that would be insightful (and not just a 2-second clip, full unedited gameplay).
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You have an uninformed opinion.
At the highest level of game play, this game is survivor tilted in solo queue. If it's SWF, it's heavily survivor based.
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Yeah, just go watch some tutorials mate, no need to go on forum, when you lack basic knowledge of the game.
It doesn't have to be even comp DBD, you have so many good survivor content creators, then just try to copy them.
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Y'all are all the typical poster children for all that I stated besides maybe one person who was not judgemental but instead gave valuable feedback and while they didn't completely agree at least they weren't making blanket statements. I play at a high enough level AND have played the killer side. It is rare to come across a person who doesn't just give into their whims to immediately start attacking someone for their honest opinion, as I said this is my opinion. Glad to get flamed in the comments so you all can prove my point how toxic killer mains are.
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