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still getting bmed when i do exactly what survivors want

coldflame
coldflame Member Posts: 157

intentionally 12 hook, never chase people off unhook, play a b tier, never slug even when theyre camping with flashlights

they still teabag and stand at gate and flashlight click anyway?

why should i even bother following their made up rules if theyre just going to act like toxic babies anyway? surv players are terrible losers and even worse winners

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  • Wezqu
    Wezqu Member Posts: 1,333

    Why do you go look at them. Just go farm points while they stand there wasting their time

  • AmpersandUnderscore
    AmpersandUnderscore Member Posts: 3,105

    There's always a negativity bias here also. You aren't seeing the people who don't do this because you played this way. I also find it hard to believe that no one is leaving their items for you, even if it's rare.

    You're only remembering the negative interactions. Or possibly, if you aren't going to the gate at all, you have no idea what's actually happening there and filling in what you imagine is occurring.

  • Mr_K
    Mr_K Member Posts: 10,461

    They want you to play like that so they can teabag you at the gate.

  • ShanoaLegendaryPlz
    ShanoaLegendaryPlz Member Posts: 1,736

    Its always been more about how you feel like playing. If you wanna play "honorably" by the rulebook, then go ahead. If you don't, theres not even such a thing as reporting for slugging the whole team or tunneling or camping ppl to death.

    The way ive started to see it (even tho i still do the rulebook thing) is that the survivors objectives are emotionless generators. Your objective is emotional survivors. Youd show them courtesy by not tunneling your objective, going after the unhooker instead. But that same survivor shows you no courtesy by going straight back to the generator thats almost done, tunneling their objective.

    So the whole courtesy is literaly 1 sided throwing in the name of "honour"

  • PetTheDoggo
    PetTheDoggo Member Posts: 2,317

    I usually suggest to killers to use builds, where you will not be at the mercy of survivors.
    Always start strong and depends on how survivors play you can ease up a bit.

    I am always up for some shenanigans with survivors, I have a rule "if you make me laugh, you escape".
    But truth is most survivors will not do it, quite the opposite.

  • brewingtea
    brewingtea Member Posts: 776
    edited April 3

    Have you ever done any babysitting? When you play games with kids, you often pretend like you're way worse than you are because you don't want to clobber them and make them cry.

    But sometimes you'll get some smug brat who thinks they WON and starts trash talking.

    Would you get angry at a 5-year-old in that situation?

  • jayoshi
    jayoshi Member Posts: 411

    A thousand times this. The survivors shouldn't have to worry about your fun and you shouldn't have to worry about theirs. Play the game how it's allowed. Don't let anyone guilt you or try to gaslight by saying you must have deep rooted issues for playing a certain way. It's a video game. It's not personal and it's not serious.

    You wanna tunnel? Do it. You wanna slug? Do it. You want to spread out hooks? Do it. You want to farm? Do it. If survivors want to tea bag and bring perks and items to gen rush or bully the killer - they can do that too. It's all just a game. It's all fair. If they or you are not having fun - they/you can give up or just play something else.

    I'm so sick of how whiny this community is about how a certain player plays a video game.

  • MechWarrior3
    MechWarrior3 Member Posts: 5,749

    Survivors will BM you regardless if you win, or lose.

    They don’t care, nor should you. You play how you want. It’s your game too.

  • Dinadin
    Dinadin Member Posts: 287

    So, why does it even bother you if survivors teabag at the exist gate? Its totally uninteresting, either force them out or just meme with them. Also if you 12 hook, theyre dead and cant teabag at the exit at all. I never had such an issue while playing D-Tier killers. And if they teabagged ingame they mostlikely get killed in the end, cause non of those can back up their bvhr with actual gameplay.

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  • cogsturning
    cogsturning Member Posts: 2,985

    I'm going to keep doing what I think it correct regardless of how other people act. Stop letting childish people push you towards childish responses.

  • Rickprado
    Rickprado Member Posts: 1,040

    Play for your fun. People don't tunnel, camp and slug because they are mean, its just a design flaw.

    I've been receiving verbal abuse from survivors playing tryhard and casually. I just skip the chat and go for the next match.

  • CautionaryMary
    CautionaryMary Member Posts: 919

    I don't know why people generalize people in this game.

    This is the only game I have seen this be such a major issue.

    I have played TCM, I have seen people play F13 - this is the only game in any asym game that hyperbolizes one side to imply a rulebook is a thing and how we want you to play a certain way.

    I don't really care what you use, but let's not kid ourselves when killer mains love to complain about 2nd chance perks and exhaustion perks.

    I don't really comprehend what you're implying, play however you want to play ~ but you forfeit your complaints on your side too.

  • cogsturning
    cogsturning Member Posts: 2,985

    Some people seem to view their opponents as a whole hive mind in this game after awhile. Even just in-match, a lot of killers start to see survivors as one unit and not four seperate people, so one tbags, and they throw their anger at the whole team. It's really odd. I don't get it.

    I played 12 survivor matches last night, escaped 9, usually with teammates, and I don't recall anyone tbagging. We just left. But the way people talk, it's every survivor, every match.

  • CautionaryMary
    CautionaryMary Member Posts: 919

    Yes, I never understood the whole "rulebook" from either side.

    But then again, I do not treat DBD like a tribalism game.

    I played killer for over 1k hours, I never treated the survivors I went against under a rulebook or dictated how I played depending on how they played. The only time I "lax down" in a game is when bots would become prevalent. Otherwise, it's fair game - never complained about exhaustion perks, second chance perks, x, y, or z.

    Same for the survivor side - even when being tunneled, I do not let my frustrations out. I might make a side comment when a friend got tunneled in a video a year ago, but I do not care how one plays. You want to tunnel, proxy camp, slug ~ sure, do what you want. You want to play S tier killers? Go ahead. - but you cannot complain about your opponent if your logic is survivor bad, they want to teabag me at the exit gate.

    I just truly hate the tribalism that this game has, it's pathetic to me in a way.

  • EntityNea
    EntityNea Member Posts: 250

    The DBD player base does not know what "teabagging" is.
    Teabagging is when you crouch repeatedly on top of another player.

    Crouching repeatedly in front of you is not teabagging. You are choosing to interpret it in a negative way.

    Repeated crouching is the quickest and easiest animation that a survivor can perform.
    I do it all the time.
    I do it at the start of the trial if i spawn next to someone, to say hello.
    I do it before getting on a generator next to another survivor, to show them I'm there.
    I step next to the other survivor and do it when they blow up the generator, to show them i'm disappointed.
    I do it when I get excited, when I'm scared, when I'm stressed, and this includes if this happens when the killer looks at me.
    I even do it in rhythm with the generator noise as I walk towards it.

    I also introduced the game to a new friend recently, and she jumped out of a bush and started repeatedly crouching in front of the killer before running past him into the exit gate. Another friend said "wow toxic!", but the friend new to DBD said they didn't mean it that way, they just wanted to pop out of the bush and say hello to the killer before leaving.

  • Mr_K
    Mr_K Member Posts: 10,461

    The reasonable person does say play the way you want. But this is DBD, where reasonable is drown out by the irrational..

    Tell me, which side gives up the moment the other side doesn't play the way they want? Statistically, because we know both do but one does it far more and believes it to be a right.

    The game is ten years old and during those ten years it's been nothing but tunneling, camping, running these perks. Yes, killers complain about survivor perks, but do survivors call out other survivors for using broken perks? Because I've only really seen killers calling other killer bad for "needing" slowdown or "needing" to tunnel to win. Show me a survivor calling a survivor perk a crutch.

    There's a reason why The Survivor Handbook on Playing Killer is a meme. Survivors love to trash talk killers for playing a certain way. A lot of Steam profiles had to go private due to it.

  • Mr_K
    Mr_K Member Posts: 10,461

    We know what teabagging is. It's kind of hard to get on top of the killer to properly perform the action you see. The message is received even without the proper position being taken.

  • EntityNea
    EntityNea Member Posts: 250

    Wrong message received then.
    It's just crouching. You are choosing to let it upset you.

  • cogsturning
    cogsturning Member Posts: 2,985

    It's almost as if one side has more power over the other in the average match and can determine how the game will feel.

  • Little_Kitten
    Little_Kitten Member Posts: 923

    You’re playing with words.

    Even if the ‘true, original, fundamental’ teabag is done on top of a downed opponent, when a survivor crouches repeatedly after stunning a killer, you’d have to be pretty hypocritical to think the meaning is: ‘Oh, sorry, I hope that didn’t bother you, how are you? Want to go again?’

    The gesture clearly resembles teabagging; by extension, we call it ‘tbag’, but the intent is the same: to mock the opponent for free.

    In THAT kind of situation, of course. This survivor action can also be used in a friendly way, like you described earlier in your list.

  • Andrix_
    Andrix_ Member Posts: 10
    edited 1:00PM

    This.

    You decide your own rules. Do not play to appease others, appease yourself.

  • kit_mason
    kit_mason Member Posts: 750

    It's just players begging for attention. Pay them no mind and take pride in the wins you earn whilst playing with a hand tied behind your back.

  • hermitkermit
    hermitkermit Member Posts: 1,042

    I think it’s important to remember that you, and me, and anyone else is limited by our own experiences. I am not going to accuse you of lying when you say that it is always survivors in your experiences that act poorly. But surely you can understand how speaking in absolutes like that is very divisive, especially when other people, such as myself, experience poor behavior from players no matter which role. And while everyone’s experiences matter, they’re just pieces to a large puzzle we can’t even see. To push this kind of idea that “x role = bad” is harmful, it oversimplifies and creates unnecessary division.

    I am sorry to hear of your frustrating experiences and I wish you better games in the future. But generalizing an entire group like that is the kind of mindset that’s been wrong in every context it’s ever shown up in, not just here in a video game.

  • EntityNea
    EntityNea Member Posts: 250
    edited 8:42PM

    You should read my entire message before responding.
    Because I explained that the intention of a lot of survivors isn't to use crouching to BM, but rather as a way to communicate.
    I gave plenty of examples of situations where I personally do it, and I know other people do it as well with no ill intention.

    I am sure there are people who do it to taunt as well, but from my observations this is the minority of cases.
    And even then, people who would do it to taunt only do it because sensitive players get so upset about it. It's "feeding the troll", so to say.

  • Little_Kitten
    Little_Kitten Member Posts: 923

    Just so you know, I had indeed read your entire message. That doesn’t change anything. Who cares whether “tbagging” in DbD is done on an enemy or in front of them? Everyone understands the intent (whether it’s friendly or mocking). No need to turn it into a whole language lesson.

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  • HoodedWildKard
    HoodedWildKard Member Posts: 2,286

    Yeah community on this game is like that.

    Play well against them? Toxicity, ugh sweaty killer/swf.

    Lose against them? Toxicity, ugh, noob, new player go uninstall.

    Goes for killers and survivors. I've had plenty of killers bm me in games where they've dominated, I didn't bm and i wasn't able to achieve much.

  • Abbzy
    Abbzy Member Posts: 3,125

    Pretty much kinda lame move best thing is to play like you want and punish their mistake hard because nothing is for free in DBD and than get kills (which is by what devs intended as core objective for the killer) and than collect that salt because if you will get kills there will be always salt.