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Maybe killers should get some add ons built in

pemberley
pemberley Member Posts: 1,510

Pig could have rule set 2 in her kit

Doc could have the imaginary pallets built in.

Freddy could have pill bottle.

Nurse could have the reticle add on built in.

Hag and Michael can see auras after their power triggers for a short while.

Wraith could have suppressed heartbeat.

Trapper could not only carry more traps, but his traps reset naturally.

Clown could exhaust survivors naturally.

Plague could have more effectiveness.

etc.

In this post MoM state, killers need love and something to compete with such strong perk combos.

Comments

  • Andreyu44
    Andreyu44 Member Posts: 1,527

    +1

    Except for Nurse and Billy.

  • Kilmeran
    Kilmeran Member Posts: 3,142

    I like this.

  • Volfawott
    Volfawott Member Posts: 3,893

    Amanda- I've always loved the rule set 2 idea

    Doctor- I can't really agree honestly just making the add-on that makes his shock zone visible, part of his basic it would be fine.

    Freddy- I can agree with that

    Nurse- is fine where she is

    Michael and Hag- I agree with Michael mainly because the shards are useless not so much with the Hag

    Wraith- it would help his stealth potential so I think it's a pretty good idea

    Trapper- I agree with the carrying more traps not with the naturally resetting

    Clown: can't really agree with that so maybe faster movement speed whilst reloading.

    Plague- Hell no

  • WakeMeUp9
    WakeMeUp9 Member Posts: 17
    edited April 2019

    Some of these are fine, but absolutely no to the Clown, Plague and 2nd half of the trapper buffs

  • Raptorrotas
    Raptorrotas Member Posts: 3,254
    edited April 2019

    Yes any killer could have the basestats of their abilities buffed, but without reworking the addons at the same time it will end up in a mess. I dont have much experience with all killers but i guess i can share some of my opinions.

    Doctor: would probably be fine'ish if they increased the base shock range a bit and reduce the delay between casting it and actually shocking a survivor (you all know how much it sucks when survivors still can vault even if theyre getting hit). The illusionary pallets could be slightly highlighted instead of only showing aura when not directly visible. Also the aiming help addon should be removed, if hes harder to learn, he can can be made stronger eithout survivor complaints.

    Pig's addons could learn a bit from Doctor's. They should have more effects, affecting both Ambush and RBT and maybe even survivors without RBT. The RBT addons need to be MUCH stronger when the Pig only has an absolue total of 4 Traps to use, being a finite ability etc. Did I mention it sucks she has a finite MAIN ability, according to heir current addons? Her addons need serious reworking, but I'm sure they'd balance a shorter base timer with even weaker traps or better chances for key boxes or something like that. My opinion is that she needs to somehow get more RBT, like simply giving her a new one after 2minutes after one gets triggered or removed. Obviously it also could spawn on a workbench in the basement or something likemthat.

    Nurse: I think the aiming help addons should be removed and the effect not build into the basekit. It'd make nurse too easy to learn and warrant lots of nerfs to keep survivors from reviewbombing. I guess she needs more special effect or debuff addons than those which mess with muscle memory, like debuffing all survivors near your landing zone. Probably remove the additional blink addons except one that only adds 1 without negative effects, make it very rare or ultra rare.

    Trapper seriously needs the bag and maybe even more traps either on all or only the bigger maps. Those might be his only addon related reworks. Concerning resetting trap, i think it'd be enough to make survivors snap to the traps instead like it currently is, so that the reset traps STAY where the trapper actually set them. Also trap hitbox nerf needs to be undone.

    Actually Myers problems with most addons is that they all need to be reworked. When they nerfed his stalking gain, they didnt readjust the addons affecting that (tombestone etc), so those need tweaking. The other addons only affect one tier.... This is bad all his addons should have effects on all tiers of his ability. The stalking aura idea sounds good though, not sure to remove addons affecting it afterwards or not, though. Tier 1 longer lunge could be default too i guess. Also somehow regenerating evil on survivors is needed, having a finite ability is bullshit as I already mentioned on Pig, for Myers its even worse as he only has his M1 afterwards.

    Wraith seems in a good spot currently, and i think the only minor buff he needs isnt really addon related, the maximum movement speed penalty at the start of uncloaking could be reduced a bit, thats all.

    For Clown I think causing exhaustion seems a bit too strong. Does no one ever think of the survivors? Jokes aside, maybe the gas could stop debuffs from ticking down by default. I think his reloading time could be lower, or not slow him down that much.

    Working Chili addons for Bubba. He's losing distance on survivors because he charges longer than hillbilly, gets slowed down while charging, and then averages at normal walking speed during the actual sweeps (according to wiki). They should reduce the movement speed penalty while revving the saw and have him start his sweeps at that speed obviously. Also his charging mechanic should be the same as Hillbilly's for player convenience. Ever canceled a 99% saw? Annoy as hell.

    Freddy, Legion, Hag, Plague: no experience with them and absolutrly unsure what to do with those. For Plague there seems to be more of an issue with the fountain heals and base stats instead of addons, the discussions about her are rather... Fresh.

    Wow that turned out to be some wall of text.

  • Poweas
    Poweas Member Posts: 5,873
    edited April 2019

    Huntress, Pig, Spirit, Billy and Nurse need nothing because they're not addon reliant.

    Hag could have a 5m teleporting range increase (from 40 to 45).

    Clown could have his intoxicated effect duration from 2.5 seconds to 4 seconds.

    Myers could stalk 20% faster and be able to multistalk.

    Increase the amount of traps Trapper can hold by 1 (2 now), decrease his setting time by 1 second (from 2.5 to 1.5) Let him reload traps at lockers and have a maximum of 12 on a map. This sorts out most his issues.

    Give Wraith 160% MS when cloaked.

    Doctor could have his shocked time increased to 3.5 seconds (from 2).

    Let Leatherface use his chainsaw forever, so he's basically a slower Billy and make his charge time work like Billys.

    Freddy and Legion need reworks.

    And undo Plagues nerfs.

    @Peanits would these buffs work?

  • KreepyMF
    KreepyMF Member Posts: 28

    Damn.. MoM has upset some killer mains

  • Poweas
    Poweas Member Posts: 5,873

    @KreepyMF for my buff ideas, they were stuff I've had in mind for a while MoM didn't affect my thought process.

  • Raptorrotas
    Raptorrotas Member Posts: 3,254

    Mine ideas are older than legion.

  • powerbats
    powerbats Member Posts: 7,068

    @Poweas I'd disagree on Spirit not being addon reliant, she's more reliant on it than some other killers simply due to both the phasing sound and 15 second cooldown.

  • Poweas
    Poweas Member Posts: 5,873
    edited April 2019

    @powerbats she's not, I changed my mind on it once my skill as Spirit was better. With her base, you can 4k, I've done it like 6 times before and after she was bugged. You just gotta be super efficient.

    And that was against a good team.

  • pemberley
    pemberley Member Posts: 1,510

    I’m not a killer main since I actually play both sides. I just can empathize with killers because mom is a bull crap perk that rewards their mistakes and punishes killers for doing their role.

  • Drazen
    Drazen Member Posts: 400

    These minor tweaks can make killers viable at high rank but why would they do that lol? they give surv every type of crutches and when it comes to killer they dont give a damn #########