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DBD needs to sort out survivor's behaviour in games and end-game chat
My final match today I went up against a Sable in the Blood Moon event, which I thought this will be alright. The thing I am addressing right here goes into killer anxiety. The Sable progressed through from pallet to pallet in which just wanted to tea bag me until I quit. After this in end game chat they didn't want to just let it go. They were bagging me in chat saying how I quit and all that when I didn't want to play in an 'event game' with someone that is all about tea bagging down the killer when I did nothing wrong but just played the game. This just adds on to players anxiety and we just want to go in and play a game without being look down upon even if someone decided to quit that game. The community on the survivor side (not all of them) are running the game dry. I should be able to just take the time penalty if I want and be out of a toxic match but nope some players just want to keep bullying even at the end-game chat.
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The way i handle this kind of stuff, if ur going to dc because you don't want to deal with them anymore, just leave the chat before they go off.
If you dont want to dc, and ur having a miserable time, stop moving, look at the sky and just do something else for a bit, washroom break or make some food or read these forums etc. You don't get penalized for it unless you started the match and never moved a muscle. So the toxic survivors are forced to finnish all the gens so they can leave - with no action.
As for the anxiety, what makes survivor less stressfull? Being part of a group, and not expecting to win every time because you know its all a matter of what the killer feels like doing. So take that mindset to playing killer. Go in not worrying about losing at all because you half expect it. Rather than stressing out about outperforming 4 other players at once. Just enjoy playing the killer, avoid the toxic survivors, save them for last if you have to, as theyve designated they are to tough to catch (while gens are being worked on) but can be caught when they have a closed hatch and nothing but doors to open. And if you are having a miserable round, think of it like with survivor you could be just as easily miserable against a killer you don't like, but the next round may be better.
Also if you know the survivors are waiting at the exit gate to t bag, just go around the map breaking all the pallets and doors for extra points. Make it a waste of their time not yours.
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Look at where the game is heading, fast gen speeds, tea bagging/toxic survivors or killer (not many killers but some killer players can be), holding w to next pallet drop, to next pallet drop. Where is the skill in survivor? Killer seems to be more skilled because look at everything us killer mains have to go through even in the end-game chat. And when I want to play the game, I want to play it. But something needs to be done. There are too many killer players under killer anxiety, I just come back about 4-5 days ago for the same reason under killer anxiety and started playing again only to be back where I was before, it's not good for the game and the players suffering when all they want to do is boot up the game and play without any toxicity dramas and also should be able to play any playstyle, which is also another thing. Players shouldn't be bagged out for the way they want to play. If we want to tunnel to win we can, if we want to guard a kill we can, so on and so forth. The balancing should be in 1v4 is killer should be powerhouse, while right now survivor is powerhouse. It needs to be shifted back into killer where killer should have a slight advantage over the balance over survivor. One thing I hope will start doing this is the diminishing but even then I have heard some issues with it
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Yes. The game has its fair share of toxicity. But as the power role you can actively ignore it. Its not easy to ignore of course when you get a front row seat of it all. But the only thing that keeps the toxicity bothering you, is Letting it bother you. You are never going to meet these people on the other end of the screen, or even see what they look like so why worry about their opinions so heavily. Not tunneling is a choice, made by you out of respect for the other players. You are fully capable of changing that choice whenever you feel like it.
Heres an example on how i don't get mad about being tunneled. I see it as: the survivors objectives are emotionless generators, the killer's objectives are very emotional survivors. the killer chases someone to another survivors hook, they choose to go after the rescuer instead of the person who just got unhooked out of respect and avoid tunneling. That same survivor however will run straight back to the generator the killer chased them off of, tunneling their own objective, even finnishing it in the killers face if they can. The respect only goes 1 way based on what the objectives are. So if a killer decides to tunnel, its just like a survivor running back to a nearly finnished generator, trying to win as efficiently as they can.
I have several p100 killers and you can imagine the comments i get if i lose or just do the stare at the sky thing lol. I don't let it bother me because p100 is just a number, i put allot more points in this character and just have more addons than ill ever need. It doesnt make me unbeatable, infact im just as capable of losing on that killer as any other, as i play the whole roster evenly. Just use that one more often.
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No offense, but if you DCed, why didnt you just leave immediatly afterwards? You say that you wanted to be out of the game, you DCed, you were out of the game. Why do you stay in Postgame Chat then?
And sadly, there is not much which can be done here. I mean, what should even be done? If teabagging gets to you, you need a thicker skin. I know I will farm Downvotes for that, but teabagging, humping and all that other stuff will happen and you should be able to not let it affect you. Be the adult. If you stress yourself less with this kind of stuff, you will find the game way more enjoyable.
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The problem is, is I can't play the game now because I have a connection error. No ban notice so I should be all good but I can't enter into the main menu as it won't take me pass the boot up screen which is bad on Bhvr side when I did nothing but quit. I have always been a killer main so how is it enjoyable to play when there are so much that is unbalanced about the game and they add more to survivor and nothing to killer. Came back to play the event which I have enjoyed some matches. Sometimes had to do playstyles which sometimes puts you on the spot but being the type of game and the reasoning behind it being unbalanced it should be fine or it shouldn't be a problem to see someone quit, but at the same time don't bag them out in end-game chat when on the receiving end of that playstyle. Sometimes people get up and leave on the end-game chat screen and come back to stuff being said as well. Some don't even go to the main menu before stepping away, but when they come back and see everything being said that then still causes anxiety. There have been so many topics about it being discuss on creators channels yet people just shrug it off or they just don't care
Edit: Had to reinstall the game to fix the internet error, I don't know why but. I'm just hoping that this patch coming can balance some of it out. The amount of stuff that just needs fixing is just atrocious to leave in the game for so long. So many I have watched has spoke on the matter about bugs, unbalanced issues, pallets. I used a slow down build and the gens pop like I am not using a slow down build. It needs to be looked at
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If they say anything reportable, you can report them. If not, you have the option to hide chat. I don't know if blocking people perma hides any chat in future games you get in with that particular person, but if not that should absolutely be a thing too to be fair.
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Like I always tell my kids - you can't control someone elses behaviour, you can only control how you react to it. Tbagging doesn't bother me, but if the Sable was tough to catch then move onto a different survivor. She was trying to tilt you and get you to stay on her because she was confident in her chase abilities. Looks like she succeeded, and you ended up DCing. Honestly, go find a different survivor. As for post-game chat, if they were being particularly nasty then you can report them as the devs have access to chat logs. But sounds like best thing would be to just avoid the chat altogether.
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Typical sabel behaviour if they dont get what they wanted. Just move on and forget about these keyboard warriors which run their mouth and are hard as plain flour.
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Sorry to tell you, but this game doesn't have a backfill. If you quit in dbd you should be punished for sure and it should definetely not be simply accepted by the people.
Now is it nice to tbag like this? Nope
Is it nice to be so percistant to know the reason? Nope
BUT it's not against the rules to tbag, it's not against the rules to want to know the reason (debatable by intensity ragarded to harrasment, but seems not to be the case really). So in conclusion you're the only person that did something wrong, it's also not against the rules on itself, but it's punished and not accepted.
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I personally love the trash talk in chat. I go out of my way to play on Steam just for those interactions, both good and bad, because i think it's hilarious. But it's also easy to close. Instead of blaming the entire survivor playerbase (who, incidentally, play killer too) just close the chat. You're feeding into it on purpose instead of walking away. And after a DC, what did you really expect? Someone wanted to make you mad and you let them.
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Quitting a game is not wrong, people have stuff sometimes they need to do and sometimes need to quit. I would gladly take the time penalty but it isn't wrong if you want to or need to. Your basically saying that we are locked in with no way out, which in saying that is wrong
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No, I'm not saying that you're locked in.
I'm saying that this game is simply not made in a way that lets you quit freely like overwatch for example. Overwatch actively offers you the chance to leave at any time (except ranked of course) because it fills your slot back up, dbd does not have this. That means if you quit, then the round is basically over - no matter on which side.
As killer you end the round for everyone so you take the chance to play out the round completely, as survivor you give the rest of team a bot and you basically let the killer win instantly - that's also only fun for the first 3 rounds as killer, then it becomes old.
At least for me you are in the wrong if you think it should be accepted to leave in a game where you don't get a replacement. The fact it's punished already tells you that it's not meant do be done from the developers - most discussions I saw in the forum about that also said that it should be punished, so people obviously don't like it.
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I agree trashtalk is fun, espeacially if you won and they tell you that you're bad :D
The kind of people that insult me because I'm german are also fun xD
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That's me, telling you you're bad lol. I love being salty and getting into long arguments. Both funny and cathartic. I have no idea how people take it so seriously. I mostly play on console and feel so left out when I'm not on Steam.
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I'm never the one starting, but I will annoy them super hard if they do. Most of the time they give up after a while frustrated :D
Sadly there are not a lot of people anymore that give me bad comments on steam. I guess my 40 sites of mostly insults will never grow anymore :( xD
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Leaving a game in the middle is wrong. You’re wasting the time of the other players. You agreed to play the game when you queued up, then decided that your time is worth more than other people’s. It’s selfish and should be punished.
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I’m not one to do it all the time though. Yet you have all these other survivor players doing the same thing, which is also unfair on the others including the killer as well because killer is just playing the game when they are using certain playstyles because of the way the game is going right now, yet when killer does it, it’s frowned upon? It’s like it’s locked into killer having to stay yet survivor players can do whatever, some don’t like a playstyle of a killer player, they either go next or leave the game entirely, yet when killer players experience toxicity they can’t leave, and also goes into killer anxiety because they are forced to play in a toxic or a bully squad match, even when survivors exploit mechanics and want to cheat, eventually you would need to chase them again later in the match because they are the only one out in the open so you can't escape it in the match. Instead of focusing on more content, why doesn't the devs sort out this, the bugs, the exploiting, the cheaters, etc etc. Not only that some people linger in the end game, to see perks before leaving which is something I do as well, sometimes as an example to see if a flash save was actually legit and not a cheater which happened in some of my matches getting saves off screen (which I didn't leave but was confused).
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I want to clear something up, people have said it's wrong to quit as killer and that you are forced to play the match then come back to say that you are not forced to play that you can quit? So… which is it??? When survivors too exploit this and leave the match when things don't go there way. Which is it because to me the same should be said about survivors doing it…? (And putting bots aside on this matter, I'm talking about if it was before the bot patch as well) Should be bad for either side to quit if that is the case
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The problem on this entire discussion is that it's wrong on any side. No one should quit - not survivors, not killers.
- Dbd has rules that you have to follow.
- Dbd has a queueing system with no replacement in the round if you leave.
As long as you don't break any rules or even laws you can do what you want. Playing toxic is not against the rules from any side but it's hatted from most people - depending on what it is it's also discouraged by the developers (camping as example). Leaving the match is also not against the rules, but it's still hatted from both sides - sure you can do this and have the oppinion that it was rightfully, but except from the case of leaving because of cheaters almost everyone will tell you that it's wrong.
The sentence "if you queue up you have to play out the round" is basically correct. You decided that you want to play a round of dbd, so you have to espect people playing like this even if you hate it - in the end everyone can and will play how they want as long as it's not against the rules. So if you leave now you basically ended the round for everyone, and that with the knowledge that they might play like this. So it's completely on you.
In the end this entire topic is really based on feelings of different people. I'm also really annoyed by being tbagged but I hate people leaving personally more, so I don't do it. Also you can simply destroy them if they annoy you that much, and if you can't do this, then you were simply not good enough (of course this is a very easy and arrogant way to see this, because it depends on a lot of factors - but it's still true to an extend).
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Sometimes I'm glad i play on xbox and have no access to the postgame chat. when I do well in a killer game against toxic survivors the idea of them screaming into the void and getting no response amuses me
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