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Killers were right about 2v8

BongoBoys
BongoBoys Member Posts: 1,137

I was on the fence about it for most iterations but after experiencing enough of it in this 2v8 it has finally reached a breaking point. Gen speeds has gotten ridiculous in 2v8 Devs need to look at adding more progress required on gens and also look at the comeback mechanic and increase the slowdown percentage side of it.

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  • OnryosTapeRentals
    OnryosTapeRentals Member Posts: 1,924

    I don't mind the mode being more casually balanced than the main game, but the on-demand Sprint Burst has GOT to be removed. It renders all of the non-dash Killers completely unviable.

  • vol4r
    vol4r Member Posts: 1,063

    Guys, surviviors play 2v8 mostly because BP bonus and being able to play with friends.

    I don't think decreasing gen speeds would help anyone.

  • BongoBoys
    BongoBoys Member Posts: 1,137

    I don't mind it being casual either not it being Survivor dominated 60/40 however Gen speeds has gotten completely ridiculous I don't care if they give Survivor more incentives like more BP to play in exchange for slower gems but something has to be done.

  • Green_Sliche
    Green_Sliche Member Posts: 867

    3 sprinters, 3 medics, 2 engineers. Have fun playing 2v8 with killers who have no mobility.

  • Your_Dad_Playing_DbD
    Your_Dad_Playing_DbD Member Posts: 87

    I am very sympathetic to the killer side, but we have to remember that 2v8 already has way too many people who want to play killer and not enough people who want to play survivor. So I am totally fine with killer being more difficult/survivor being easier in 2v8. We need to incentivize more people to want to choose the survivor side. I don’t care if this is an unpopular opinion because it’s simply a fact of the numbers.

  • Aven_Fallen
    Aven_Fallen Member Posts: 18,111

    2v8 HAS to be survivor-sided. It is quite clear that there are still not enough Survivors playing the mode, simply because the gameplay for Survivor is the same as before. Killer has a new experience with playing with a friend, but thats about it. If you start to increase the time you have to spend on Gens, you will just move more Survivors away from 2v8, which then makes it harder for Killers to find games. I mean, sure, there is play while you wait, but I think most people who queue for Killer rather endure playing a few Survivor games to get into a Killer game than actually wanting to play those Survivor games.

  • Abbzy
    Abbzy Member Posts: 3,313

    Devs clearly stated its supposed to be survivors mode and mainly be fun for survivors so more expectations for killers getting anything better.

    Sprint is pain so playonly killersthat cover chase and catch up mobility like wesker,wraith,billy,nurse,spirit, dracula and oni who has all things when he has power because theres realy no point in playing other killers that get deleted by survivors pressing one button that gives them sprint and all other survivors sround them that arent exhausted and it has super low cooldown compare to all other survivor classes powers.

    Its not worth waiting 25-30 minutes for killer match thats pain, theres no shame in not wanting to have fun either like the opposite side.

  • supersonic853
    supersonic853 Member Posts: 5,865

    The sprint burst on demand is the only thing ruining it currently in my opinion hopefully they actually take this time to realize that and fix it for the next one.

  • cammoking123
    cammoking123 Member Posts: 73

    I hate 2v8 for survivors and killers. Killers have no slowdown. And on the survivor side, now that BHVR added the stupid torchbearer class I have to deal with half my team trying to get flashlight saves instead of doing anything meaningful. Also the cage spawns are horrible. Most of the time you'll spawn on the other side of a map, far away from where any people are. Makes it a pain just to get rescued.

  • BongoBoys
    BongoBoys Member Posts: 1,137

    It already is a Survivor sided mode we could completely Skullmerchant treatment the killer side and their still wouldn't be enough survivor players. Toss aside your survivor bias for one sec to recognize how atrocious gen speeds has gotten in 2v8 I get you want survivors to be the dominant side but this is not how it should be with matches ending so fast

  • Aven_Fallen
    Aven_Fallen Member Posts: 18,111

    This has nothing to do with Survivor Bias, lol. I dont even play 2v8, so I dont care what is going on there.

    But it is a fact that there are too less Survivor players. I mean, you can make the game super hard in 2v8 for Survivor, as I said, I dont play it, I dont care. But then you will come to a point where all Survivors you face are Killer Players who are waiting for their turn while doing play while you wait.

  • HoodedWildKard
    HoodedWildKard Member Posts: 2,449

    Agreeing with literally everyone else the sprint burst absolutely ruins this game mode. I have been enjoying it as killer but mainly because I play nemesis in 2v8 and those 4 zombies really help even the odds a bit a apply so much pressure on gens, both directly by forcing survs to stop and deal with them, as well as indirectly by alerting me to which gens i need to patrol and kick.

  • THEProblemsolver
    THEProblemsolver Member Posts: 91

    good thing i left the dbd game a long time ago due to very repetitive gameplay/ nothing in dbd ever changes

    the game is a huge money grab due to most of the content behind a paywall ticks me off considering i paid over 600 dollars on this game and i wasted 5 months of life and lets be honest have you ever noticed when players get really upset they put up 2v8 and say look old game mode new content / the content is just small fixes at this rate minecraft releases more content considering they only update once or twice a year and that says something.

  • THEProblemsolver
    THEProblemsolver Member Posts: 91

    good thing i left the dbd game a long time ago due to very repetitive gameplay/ nothing in dbd ever changes

    the game is a huge money grab due to most of the content behind a paywall ticks me off considering i paid over 600 dollars on this game and i wasted 5 months of life and lets be honest have you ever noticed when players get really upset they put up 2v8 and say look old game mode new content / the content is just small fixes at this rate minecraft releases more content considering they only update once or twice a year and that says something.

  • CrypticGirl
    CrypticGirl Member Posts: 1,647

    I would think the Play while you Wait would get Killers to play Survivor and see just how much Gen speeds and sprint bursts actually matter (which is not as much as they claim).

  • 100PercentBPMain
    100PercentBPMain Member Posts: 3,507

    technically we do, we have basekit Call of Brine. it's honestly not bad regression. Not a lot, but it does put in some work if you can get the survivors off the gen for a few seconds.

  • Your_Dad_Playing_DbD
    Your_Dad_Playing_DbD Member Posts: 87

    Don’t play killer on 2v8 then if it’s that unfun for you. I actually enjoyed playing killer and did pretty well in 2v8 - the only time I didn’t get 5K+ is if my teammate was terrible. The survivors in 2v8 are usually pretty bad, so I never felt like it was difficult to get downs quickly. And I am not a great player by any means. I guess my point is that I didn’t feel like the mode was too survivor sided to not have a good chance to win as killer in most matches.

    I don’t see how this is “survivor bias”. I’m a 50/50 player and my opinions come from how I feel the balance is from both points of view. Killers definitely more difficult in 2v8 than 1v4, but as I and others have said, it is supposed to be. If you want easier killer games, then just don’t play 2v8. I don’t understand why you would wait 15-20 minutes to play killer if you aren’t enjoying it.

  • Your_Dad_Playing_DbD
    Your_Dad_Playing_DbD Member Posts: 87
    edited April 30

    Don’t play killer on 2v8 then if it’s that unfun for you. I actually enjoyed playing killer and did pretty well in 2v8 - the only time I didn’t get 5K+ is if my teammate was terrible. The survivors in 2v8 are usually pretty bad, so I never felt like it was difficult to get downs quickly. And I am not a great player by any means. I guess my point is that I didn’t feel like the mode was too survivor sided to not have a good chance to win as killer in most matches.

    I don’t see how this is “survivor bias”. I’m a 50/50 player and my opinions come from how I feel the balance is from both points of view. Killers definitely more difficult in 2v8 than 1v4, but as I and others have said, it is supposed to be. If you want easier killer games, then just don’t play 2v8. I don’t understand why you would wait 15-20 minutes to play killer if you aren’t enjoying it.

    Edit: I played a some survivor matches today and the first few were just a total disaster. 2v8 is a quite a reality check to remind me how many bad players there are. Nearly everyone lasting less than 10 seconds in chase, cowering in corners, refusing to go near gens. The killers in those matches certainly had a very easy time.

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  • Royval
    Royval Member Posts: 1,320

    the sprint burst is the only fun part of the mode as a survivor lol I hope it stays

  • BongoBoys
    BongoBoys Member Posts: 1,137

    Haha no I will continue to advocate until there is enough uproar till Devs are forced to do something