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Reverse Tunneling

Tenac
Tenac Member Posts: 97

We hear complaints all the time about tunneling but what about reverse tunneling or favoritism where you go after all but one survivor? I'll admit ive done it before but not often and only in semi friendly joke matches. Especially if its a fun character like steegul or nic cage.

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  • CrypticGirl
    CrypticGirl Member Posts: 1,649

    So are you complaining about "reverse tunneling?" I usually don't see it unless the Killer is running obsession perks and leaving the obsession alone. Or that one person could be quite stealthy, too. I don't see it as complaint-worthy.

  • Tenac
    Tenac Member Posts: 97

    Oh no Im not complaining just gaging people's thoughts on it.

  • Mr_K
    Mr_K Member Posts: 10,516

    Tunneling 3 out of the 4 is just what a toxic killer would do.

  • hermitkermit
    hermitkermit Member Posts: 1,083

    I’ll do it if it seems like they’re the only person actually contributing. Though I do have an affinity for Dwight so if my games with one, as long as they’re cool, I tend to always let the Dwight go after 2 hooks. I think that’s pretty common though for a survivor or killer to really love a specific character and therefore “throw” for that one. Not necessarily in the realm of reverse tunneling I guess but still along the lines of picking a favorite!

  • cogsturning
    cogsturning Member Posts: 3,198

    I can't say I really do this for no good reason. Really only unless everyone is throwing except one person, then I'll just ignore them and let them have hatch. But I've had a few killers who just completely swerve every time they see me and I've always assumed it's because I'm playing their main/a survivor they like, or because my cosmetics tend to be pretty ostentatious and they approve.

  • OnryosTapeRentals
    OnryosTapeRentals Member Posts: 1,927

    I ignore Survivors who I deem "untenable" to interact with. If they took me on a long chase earlier, or they're running perks that specifically counter the Killer I'm playing, then I'll usually just ignore them and take out their teammates until I have more wiggle room.

  • zonkednb
    zonkednb Member Posts: 337
    edited May 1

    I tend to ignore survivors obviously trying to pull chase by being as obnoxious as possible unless I have nowhere else to go, especially if I suspect a SWF and they may be the designated looper with a build for it. Why not just stride past them and chew on the Ada that is likely playing pure genspeed?

    If I'm crushing too hard at 5 gens I'll update my objective to double hook all survivors before going for kills, just as a bit of a challenge.

    I am a serial hatch giver though. I don't care about getting the 4k at all. 3k is a win and that's enough. Often means that if any survivor has done something that catches my attention, they're a likely hatch candidate. Performing some sick mind game or crazy risky save that worked, being cute and/or silly, or being the victim of a sandbag are great ways to guarantee I'll leave you alone once you reach death hook.

  • sonata93
    sonata93 Member Posts: 432

    It depends on the context.

    I recently played a SWF with a friend who’s a Mikaela main. The killer refused to even injure her the entire match as the killer had a Mikeala charm on the hook. She played quite sweaty with the other 3 of us and even tunnelled a Dwight out early game. My friend thought it was lame as she just wanted to play normally.

    I once had a game against a Ghostface who had a pride charm on his hook. When he saw mine he was teabagging/nodding. He played normally, but gave me the hatch at the end.

    The first example is favortism to the detriment of teammates, the second is just a wholesome moment between two players. When I play killer, I never deliberately avoid a survivor unless I know they’re insanely good loopers. When I do 4k, I always give last survivor hatch unless they’ve been toxic. That’s just a rule of thumb for me. The other exception may be if MMR screws someone over and I get a baby survivor in my lobby. In that context, I will play nice as it’s not fair that MMR puts these people in matches which they’ve lost before they’ve even loaded in.

    So I guess (long answer short) a little favouritism/wholesome interactions are okay. Outright keeping one survivor alive just to tunnel/kill the rest out isn’t very sportsmanlike. I also hate it when a game turns friendly after you’ve died… you die with like 20k BP’s whilst your teammates get to farm. Not cool.

  • Starrseed
    Starrseed Member Posts: 1,845

    I do this but it has two different types.

    The first is the guy that very obviously wants to be chased. He is always around, he clicks his torch, he tbaggs, etc. You all know what type of survivor I mean.

    That guy does not exist for me, if he does not literally run into me to body block me I ignore him all game. 90% of the time those people get increasingly desperate to be chased until they screw up and land on hook without any actual chase. And they are always so so so angry in chat it's a delight.

    The second is Eddie. Yep that's it, you q against me and you use Eddie and don't act like being toxic is a competition and you aim for the title then you will leave this round alive.

    That does not mean that I don't interact with them tho. I do chase them, I do hook them and I don't just allow them to do gens in my face but I will make sure they don't die. And I even go as far to extend this to every Eddie present, if it's two Eddie's both will escape if it's four Eddie's they all will escape.

    I do get angry messages for this sometimes, not from the Eddie but another surv that feels the need to fight this incredible injustice they just witnessed. I don't care tho, I just can't see Eddie die again

  • radiantHero23
    radiantHero23 Member Posts: 5,114

    We tunnel everyone and everything here.

  • zonkednb
    zonkednb Member Posts: 337

    As a Mikaela main that couldn't loop a Nurse with no blinks, I'll take the Mikaela loving killer please.

  • HexSlugged
    HexSlugged Member Posts: 10

    I typically dont pay attention to who im chasing at any time except for a mild awareness on trying to not kill someone too early unless i really think its needed to have a chance at winning, generally if you enter my FOV you are a valid target regardless of your hook stage or whatnot.

    I will typically only ignore a player if they have been 2 hooked before the games progressed far and thus leaving 3 players on a 4 or 5 gen situation or if im aware the player is going to be hard in chase and waste my time or run loops i am not good at running, like shack or if im aware they are trying to pull me away from a particular area because if you dont want me to be at location X, then I probably want to be at location X.

  • LordHeXaGoN
    LordHeXaGoN Member Posts: 333

    Obsession, i just dont want to… (Even sometimes they have 0 hooks in the end)

    DS all that stuff.

  • HoodedWildKard
    HoodedWildKard Member Posts: 2,466

    I'll do this occasionally if i see other survivors deliberately sandbag someone. Particularly if there are multiple. I usually take pity on the person being bullied, maybe other stuff like being left on hook till 2nd stage, or if they arr clearly super new to the game and can't run chase.

  • Reinami
    Reinami Member Posts: 6,862

    There's a reason I tell survivors to stop tunneling gens. No matter what you do as killer if you don't let them escape somehow you are the problem.

  • LordGlint
    LordGlint Member Posts: 9,796

    Considering that I once had the last survivor accuse me of tunneling him after I caught him on an exit gate... there would probably be someone who would ACTUALLY complain about anything.

  • Valuetown
    Valuetown Member Posts: 969

    "Tunneling gens." Killer propaganda is actually something else. If you think survivor is that much easier, I implore you to give solo q a go for a month straight.

  • LordGlint
    LordGlint Member Posts: 9,796
  • Reinami
    Reinami Member Posts: 6,862

    Do i need to post my stats again that show a 50% escape rate as pure solo queue?

  • Raptorrotas
    Raptorrotas Member Posts: 3,388

    Why should it be in jest when its quite usable synonymously for "rushing" in dbd? Both is "doing the objective efficiently, effectively or tunnelvisioning or wearing blinkers" ( these things you put on horses for carriages so theyre less distracted by other stuff)

    I think its the negative connotation the (survivor) community has build up with that word. They do not want their derogatory term for killers used against themselves.

    Survivors cant "tunnel", its called "rushing" for them, but remember that "gen rushing" doesnt exist because its just "doing your objective"
  • Reinami
    Reinami Member Posts: 6,862
    edited May 2

    Precisely my point. "Gen rushing" is not seen negatively because it doesn't exist and its just doing your objective and killer's should just "apply pressure". But tunneling is bad and toxic and isn't about "doing your objective" as a killer. When tunneling is literally the killer doing just that and "applying pressure"

    The reality is the same. You are playing in a way to optimize and efficiently do your objective as fast as possible, as a player, there is nothing wrong with doing that. But i do like pointing out the hypocrisy of people who say one is bad and the person doing it is toxic but the other isn't for some reason and survivors for some reason can't just "apply pressure" to deal with tunneling.

    And as always, i need to point out my disclaimer because everyone always assumes things about me. I think tunneling is bad for the game and needs to be completely removed from the game through fundamental game design changes. But you should be blaming the devs for allowing it to exist, not the players for doing it.

  • Valuetown
    Valuetown Member Posts: 969

    How many of those are through hatch? 🤷‍♀️ besides, isn't it confirmed by practically everyone that the official dbd stats page is just wrong?

  • Valuetown
    Valuetown Member Posts: 969

    "Officer don't blame me for going 120 mph in a 25, blame the car manufacturer for allowing my car to go to 120 mph."

  • Reinami
    Reinami Member Posts: 6,862

    Not quite correct, because speeding is against the law. BHVR specifically calls out tunneling as something that is not against the rules. So this would be like getting mad at someone for driving 60 mph on the freeway when the speed limit is 60mph because you want to go 50 mph.

  • HoodedWildKard
    HoodedWildKard Member Posts: 2,466

    I do this too. There are so many killers who don't seem to know when to drop chase. If a surv is obviously good at chase, then I'm not letting them juice me for 2/3 gens. I'm going to go find someone easier to chase and get round to downing them later when they are in a bad postion or comitting to a save.

  • Valuetown
    Valuetown Member Posts: 969

    Goalposts aren't moving when there was no consensus on accepted criteria.

  • Valuetown
    Valuetown Member Posts: 969

    No sorry, the analogy is there are acceptable times where your car can go 50, some times when it can go 70. Just because YOU want to drive 120 when the circumstance literally makes YOU the person who is in the wrong is the angle I was going for.

  • crogers271
    crogers271 Member Posts: 3,490

    On top of that:

    Saying that a source isn't reliable isn't moving the goalposts, that's just normal discussion.

    Also a 50% ER does not disprove your earlier statement (so much easier) when people have a 70%+ KR.

  • Slurp_Ramen
    Slurp_Ramen Member Posts: 93

    I thought reverse tunneling was survivors tunneling themselves with sloppy play? for example sadako when they just hold w into your tvs and eat condemned.

    Well the more you I guess.