Pain Resonance
i lowkey hate using this perk, i dont feel satisfied using it, and barely feel the value. could just be me, i prefer to use perks like Eruption, Surge, Pop Goes The Weasle. i feel its a little restricting, what are your thoughts on it
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Pain Res is pretty much meta for high mobility killers. Fast to get hooks then fast to get another hook to trigger it multiple times. It's a nightmare perk for soloq players because so many times I have been on a gen that will never get done because someone got hooked. I get it back to 90% and then someone else gets hooked, I get it to 95% and 3rd person gets hooked and not 1 gen is done because the only person doing a gen keeps having the gen pushed back. It's especially effective when combined with gen blocking perks.
Pain Res is only a wasted perk if the killer is too slow to move around the map and slow to get downs or if the killer camps and tunnels or survivors are good enough to not go down so fast. I tried it with Myers and it was useless but on blight it's very good.
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thats fair, and dont get me wrong i know ist strong, but i personally dont like it and find other perks more worthwhile. im not a huge lean into the meta type of killer main
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As Myers main I never use it, the 1 and only gen perk I use is deadlock. It usually delays all gens getting done just long enough to pick up a 3 or 4k by the end
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i use Deadlock and Surge, those are usally my only gen perks
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This perk has no equal on low or none mobility killers and it works very well with other very strong perks like dms,grim etc. while also being healthy because it requires from killer to hook every survivor once. I get it doesnt look that good like theres still huge rng with 4 randim scourge hooks but still what this perks offers to killers like huntress,legion,chucky or demo and many other killers that cant use pop that well like billy,wraith,freddy.
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Freddy cant use pop well? i find it works on him fine, just curious
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Yeah just find a survivor → down survivor → hook survivor → teleport to gen → kick the gen → repeat.
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thats what i do, he just said Pop doesnt work with freddy too well, so i was asking why
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I'm currently using Pain Res and Turn Back the Clock. Pain Res is tricky because you need to have some macro sense to know if a gen even has enough progress to use a token. You also have to have a scrouge hook near the down. But if I down someone near a gen with high progress and there's no scrouge hook nearby, I get value from Turn Back the Clock. Even when I bring zero slowdown (which is usually the case) I rarely stop to kick gens, so the ones that require me to not do so are the ones I bring. On M1s I'll occasially bring Surge.
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I meant it as the freddy,billy and wraith have mobility so pop is good on them compare to previous killers I mentioned sorry I made that sentence not so clear. Freddy is great for pop because he tos right on top of gens so pop is great for him.
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I'm just bored because it almost feels necessary to use (when speaking in gen regression terms) because so many of the other gen perks have just been nerfed to hell. Like genuinely, it's been pop and pain res at the top for HOW long now? COB is still neutered from 3 gen meta, overcharge is still neutered from 3 gen meta, eruption is almost a detriment to use because of it being 2 hits of a regression event (literally the only perk that has me consistently running into the gen blocking they introduced BECAUSE it hits twice),
Like we have diminishing returns. We have the regression events that makes 3 genning hostage games physically impossible. There's no reason for some of these gens perks to still be as bad as they are, there's no real variety unless you just force yourself to use something worse for the sake of said variety.
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oh no worries thats my bad
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I kinda half agree with this tbh. On most killers I don’t feel crazy value from Pain Res either, but on basic M1 killers with no mobility I actually like having it just to touch gens across the map while I’m stuck chasing.
It feels more like a map pressure band‑aid than a ‘wow that was satisfying’ perk for me.
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Yeah it's a perk that gains most of its value on higher mobility killers. It's still alright on lower tiers but honestly not even pain res on those killers can save you against efficient survivors.
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it might be because im a Skully main😔
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I loved to use the old version where it was just 15% but for that every single hook, the new version with 25% and 4 times max is also not my cup of tea. I like pop, surge or oppresion depending on the killer more (often bbq, surge, brutal and bamboozle or bbq, fitting perk for the killer, pop and oppression) :D
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That version was ok on mid to low tier killers but op on high tier killers which can move around map fast and get downs faster while use it with perks like dms which was too much.
Still current pain res is to tier on low to none mobility killers because if you run pop on huntress,demo,trapper you will get same or even less value then from pain res due to lack of options for these killers to move around map to gens or get downs that fast on top pain res stuck well with other great perks like dms,grim which are meta too.
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I know that it had it's problems, I'm only talking about the feeling. I liked to use it on huntress with bbq, floods of rage and lethal and then take the reload addon and concuction or flower babushka. It was just nice to not have to kick gens most of the time.
Well now I play huntress without regression: bbq, lethal, irom maiden, floods of rage and concuction and flower babushka. On other killers it's oppresion, pop or surge like I already said :D
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Huntress is my most frustrating killer to play, i find it so hard, though i once got a cool little flick and sniped a far away Dwight. generally i dont know how people play her
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Lots and lots of trying. You just have to throw as many hatchets as possible to get a feeling of how much you have to hold it for what range and in which angle. Also you learn then when it makes sense to hold it until it's charged fully and when angled shots make more sense.
I personally play a crossmap huntress, so I'm not that good at throwing through cracks and holes but better at throwing over the entire map and hitting them there :D
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I should keep practicing, but it also could be because im on Switch as well, (the first one, not the switch 2)
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my go to build for trickster rn is:
-Turn back the clock
-Bamboozle
-Furitive Chase
-Friends til the end
I am the same where I just dislike using pain res, but I don't really play high mobility characters, I much prefer throwing things at people LOL1 -
Then you'll learn her on hardmode. I personally can't play her on controler at all, but then again I never on controler in general xD
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why do people say switch is dbd on hard mode? i dont get it
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Well there are at least 2 main-reasons:
- Dbd on switch has a horrible performance and huntress hates inconsistent fps, especially for shots directly in front of you. (It's harder to predict and react to the survivors movement).
- Controller is simply increadible bad for the movement you need to do with your camera on basically any killer. You can't really flick and even 100% speed is probably to slow to come close to that - sure you can preaim around corners and things, but that's still not comparing to flicking with a mouse. Well besides the fact it's probably also more precise with slow movements too.
I would give the advice to not play killer ever with controller if it's avoidable. Well that's at least my opinion, maybe you're playing shooters on console since 10 years, but even then I think you would be better with mouse in a few months maximum :D
Ps: as survivor I heard controller is better btw, but you would still have the switch as a problem xD
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I used the OG pain resonance but after that I stuck to my Surge roots. however these past few months I've been using Oppression more than anything.
I'm not ashamed to say that I'd prefer to have help getting hooks than getting bonuses for hooking. I like using Unforeseen and Nowhere to Hide on a few killers I like to think that helps make my approaches sometimes more unpredictable even in a group.
Oppression isn't any good at the start, you need to get the survivors busy and distracted but once you get into a 1v3 situation like a hook or death the regression can be a time saver just like Surge my beloved, but Oppression isn't map dependent like Surge.
for example, Henry and Unknown are fun killers who can have some unique hits with Nowhere to Hide+Unforeseen on indoor levels.
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…i generally wanted to expirence comp dbd, but maybe i should not use switch for that? I dont know i do fine on killer for the most part, especially on Oni, im currently on a 16 winstreak with him. survivor sucks, i cant loop for the life of me and generally struggle
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No you really shouldn't do this with switch. Also you should probably play a lot more for that. I think at least in bigger tournaments the people with the least hours had 3k xD
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OH GOD NO i didnt mean currently, i meant later on when im better. but yeah on switch is a no go i presume. i cant even loop a killer for 10 seconds lol. maybe once im better
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Well you will get better over time, it actually helps to play the killers yourself because you know then what they can do at loops. Also you have to learn to not panic and just be patient more often than not they won't simply run around the loop but rather walk backwards just before the palette to hit you on the other side as example. By being patient you can change the side and drop the palette no issue then.
That being said, I'm not a survivor main. Almost all my hours are killer xD
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