Jason... PLEASE BE LIKE THIS
Some Youtubers/streamers thinks Jason would be boring because his Power isn't "unique", I think they don't understand where Jason's True strength lies.
Everyone knows Jason's 4 key abilities:
- Brute Strength - In the movies he's walked through closed doors/walls, picked up people in sleeping bags to smash against trees, even crushed a guys head with is bare hands to the point his eyes pop out. No Doubt Jason is very Strong.
- Immortality - No matter how much abuse or damage he takes, he always gets back up to kill again, even if he's dismembered, decapitated, frozen buried, blown up… He always comes back for the slaughter.
- Relentlessness - Once he wants you dead, he pursues until he gets you. Undeterred, untiring, unmatched in his sole objective to kill. He always finds you no matter where you are, as if he has a 6th sense for it, and no matter how slow he moves, you can neither run nor hide from this fiend.
- Surprise - Jason is overwhelmingly good at appearing when you least expect and killing off your friends without you ever becoming aware until it's too late. Even if you think you lost him, he's just around the corner waiting for you.
These aspects have all been done before, and to a degree, those Youtuber/streamers would be right, but there is still 1 thing everyone overlooks about Jason that I believe could prove to be fun:
… 5. Improvisation - Jason, actually, doesn't have a "Favorite weapon". Many believe its the Machete, because he uses them so often, but honestly… He uses whatever he finds lying around, and worse, He's good at using them. Baseball Bats, Oars, Knives, Corkscrews, Claw Hammers, Sledge Hammers, Rocks, Weights, Snares, Bear Traps, Throwing Axes, Chopping Axes, Throwing Knives, Javelins, Boat Hooks, Bows, Ropes, Chains, Knives, Harpoon Guns, you get the picture; Just literally anything that can be used to kill, he puts to work.
Now Imagine, you start a match and Jason has nothing in his hands, or maybe just a machete for his standard M1 melee attacks, but then he walks over to a locker, opens it, and SURPRISE… Now he has a Bow with 1 arrow good for an insta down! Or maybe he has a big ol Oar in both hands with double the normal Melee range? What if while he's chasing you, you suddenly end up in a Snare? How crazy of a concept does that sound?
To me, Jason has the potential of being the only killer capable of short, mid, and long range attacks as well as trap placing… And if done right with some limitations on spawn rate of these weapons + RNG, no one would ever know what new toy he found in a locker until he attacks. I think it would be lots of fun if they brought him into the game using this overlooked aspect as his "Prime Ability".
Keep the most damaging/insta down items like bows and harpoon guns on a low spawn chance in lockers. Traps limit to 4 that can't be reset or replaced. mid range weapons to uncommon, and super short range (ones that only work wherein you actually have to touch a survivor, like an ice pick, or cork screw) an instant down but with heavy requirements, and you get a killer with the potential of super short, short, medium, long range attacks and with the added bonus of trap setting!
If they also gave him no Terror Radius except when chasing or attacking, Thematically that would be perfect! Just give him a "Ki-ki-ki-ma-ma-ma" every time he looks in a survivors direction, but leave him his surprise, and he'll be golden!
Would you play him?
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Personally i think this would be bad. The RNG alone would make him useless because each weapon would only be good in certain situations. Not to mention if its a 1 use weapon you spend half the match just going back to a locker or chest or whatever to get a new weapon. At this point you might as well load up a game of Huntress with irry hatchet.
I would like to comment on the start though about jasons 4 key abilitiesBrute strength - This is half the roster. Majority of killers will have brute strength so although this is an ability its not exactly unique
Immortality - This means nothing in the DBD universe. The survivors arn't out to kill the killer meaning the immortatility is useless
Relentlessness - Your basicly saying he tunnels. Im sure the community will LOVE a killer who's whole idea is he relentlessly attacks one survivor will they are dead lol
Surprise - I feel like all horror characters have this. The only reason they don't within the DBD universe is because of terror radius (unless a stealth killer) however in movies all the bad guys can stay quiet.
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By your own admision, besides the 4 key abilities of Jason, I have literally listed the only thing that could make him "Unique" in the DbD Killer roster, but you're trashing it as "useless"?
A killer who can do pretty much every killer's tricks(short, mid, long range + trap setting) but has to take time out of their run to check lockers to do it, and hasn't a guarantee of what they are getting from said lockers, unlike huntress, is by and far the most unpredictable character in DbD's history.. but that's "USELESS" to you?
Yet you scoff at the idea… and furthermore, HATE on all the "already used" aspects of Jason, even taking them to their Extremes (which we know the devs won't do) to justify your rhetoric, with an air of pure malediction…
Just admit you're a survivor main already! One who doesn't want to deal with a killer who's a "jack of all trades" because it would be too much for you. Do that, Spell out why this hurts you as a survivor more than any other killer, and I'd respect your opinion better, because at least then I'd know what you're afraid of and where the concept could compromise.
Otherwise, this is just a Banal whining from a survivor main that doesn't want a challenge.
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Brute strength, immortality, relentless and surprise? That's already what the whole killer roster is so none of that's gonna work Jason in DBD. He's has the same problem that Pyramid Head and SpringTrap has that these 3 characters have no power of any kind from their respective franchise that could be translated to DBD. So they have to give Jason an original power and I can't think of any myself that could work. F13th game think he had some kind of teleport or invisibility skill but that'll be too close to what Wraith and Dredge already does.
Though your idea of different temp weapons from lockers I see could work but have to get rid of the RNG issues that'll bring.
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did you even read about the improvisation? AkA the entire point I was making about the killer concept?
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So he's just gonna be a fast breaker of pallets and walls immortality so I geuss enduring and reduced stuns in general Relentless some kinda haste or instadown and Surprise some kinda stealth and teleport.
Improvastion: look if Devs actually coded a variety of weapons to use I'll be impressed but realistically I think Devs are just gonna use his iconic machete and at most Trappers bear traps cause they can recycle those. I would love to be proven wrong though
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At work so can't read every single word just scimming over it quickly. A M1 no power killer that gets a random weapon from a locker he could use. Highly doubt the devs could pull that off.
And I'm thinking, let him choose his own weapon like how lich or knight can pick their power. A grounded trap like Trappers bear traps, an object trap for windows, pallets and gens, a throwing weapon can be whatever, and hook and chain like DeathSlinger harpoon gun. Either he has to cycle through them all or they each have their own lengthy cooldown.
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Oh its so funny. I am a killer main thru and thru Why on earth would i want to play as a survivor when i can play killer? . I ONLY touch survivor gameplay when i need to complete quests so for you to even mention the whole "Your just a survivor main" is so funny.
"By your own admision, besides the 4 key abilities of Jason, I have literally listed the only thing that could make him "Unique" in the DbD Killer roster, but you're trashing it as "useless"?I am saying that the idea you had would rely to much on RNG and wouldn't be fun. you would spend half the game going back and forth getting weapons and if your doing that you might as well not bother beacuse gens will fly and game will be over as you would lose to much pressure.
"A killer who can do pretty much every killer's tricks(short, mid, long range + trap setting) but has to take time out of their run to check lockers to do it, and hasn't a guarantee of what they are getting from said lockers, unlike huntress, is by and far the most unpredictable character in DbD's history.. but that's "USELESS" to you?"
Useless? No not at all. Fun? most certainly not because of the previous comment of spending half the game searching lockers/chests. Not to mention the balance of each item would have to be perfected which lets face it isn't really going to be possible.
Now although im a killer main i do like to look at things from both sides and the survivors would have really no way to counter a killer with such a wide variety of power. One minute your looping like normal thinking your safe then your hit from double distance by a mid range attack. later in the match you account for that and your sniped with a bow. Like where do you draw the line at what is and isn't over powered.
Simply saying the killer has to take time out of the run to check lockers isn't a way you balance a killer. Huntress and Trickster at least get multiple shots before needing to reload. Not to mention that if he even has the ability to get a range attack by default he would need to be a 4.4 killer which would result in a huge nerf for the rest of his kit.
Now im not saying your idea wouldn't work but it can't be random in game. In order to make it work it would need to be linked to addons. Similar to how freddys addons worked to change his power to dream pallets change jason's secondary weapon using addons.
Some examples would be
Wooden bow - Your M2 becomes a ranged attack that can be reloaded at any chest or locker. You are now 4.4
Old Oar - Your M2 gains increased range being able to hit survivors from 1.5 times the distance. You can no longer gain bloodlust
These are just top of the head examples and as i said the idea could work but not in the form you posted.
The fact you went on a rant accusing me of being a survivor main just shows how salty you get when someone rips on your idea and its quite sad really when all i wanna do is engage in a discussion about it0
